Lies about CI's

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shel90 said:
All of my life I had that issue with hearing people telling me that I was wrong, wrong, wrong in everything I expressed about my deafness.
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I get that, too, Shel. It just pissed me off when they say I am wrong or no, that is not correct or not the correct idea at all or just plain saying Uh, Uh with :nono:. :roll:
 
i have a friend who claims he was implanted with a chip by the FBI and that he's hearing their voices. It's a miracle, isn't it? Too bad he's in federal prison.
 
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netrox said:
i have a friend who claims he was implanted with a chip by the FBI and that he's hearing their voices. It's a miracle, isn't it? Too bad he's in federal prison.
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So he was right and they tracked him?
 
PowerON said:
If hearing parents put CI on their deaf child.
Then deaf parents should remove their hearing child's hear.

Fair!
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:rofl: I would like to see them try. My guess is that they would have just bought themselves a good old fashiond alley whoppin or maybe even worse. Oh and not to be the thread police but you are :topic: anyway. :shock: Post reported.
 
faire_jour said:
Yes, someone said that a person would be jailed for making their child deaf. That is a fact, not a joke.
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Oh, that is not a fact if we want the hearing child to go deaf but geeze, you hearing people think that you have a right to make deaf children hear for something they don't want. :roll:

I guess I am not in mood with jokes with FJ. Does she have to be serious every time? Why does she always make us get pissed off?

Lies about CI is suppose to help us to loosen up about joking or having fun using the phrases or sentences what everyone thought about the CI lies. :naughty:
 
Bebonang said:
Oh, that is not a fact if we want the hearing child to go deaf but geeze, you hearing people think that you have a right to make deaf children hear for something they don't want. :roll:

I guess I am not in mood with jokes with FJ. Does she have to be serious every time? Why does she always make us get pissed off?

Lies about CI is suppose to help us to loosen up about joking or having fun using the phrases or sentences what everyone thought about the CI lies. :naughty:
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Actually, that is not why I started the thread.

And the problem is that the poster who claimed that parents should go to jail has not shown in any way that he was joking.
 
Well, isn't this fun, lots of people throwing around generalities and misconceptions (I'll leave it to you to figure out which is which). Did this thread accomplish what the originating poster intended?

I don't think the problem is that people are spreading lies about cochlear implants (some of the CI "lies" posted here actually do have some basis in fact), I think it's simply that nobody is taking the time to actually listen and understand the other side of the debate -- and by "understand", I mean you should be well versed enough in the opposing viewpoint that you could effectively argue in its favor if you so chose.

Or you could always just follow the age old advice of keeping your nose out of other people's business.
 
Bebonang said:
Oh, that is not a fact if we want the hearing child to go deaf but geeze, you hearing people think that you have a right to make deaf children hear for something they don't want. :roll:

I guess I am not in mood with jokes with FJ. Does she have to be serious every time? Why does she always make us get pissed off?

Lies about CI is suppose to help us to loosen up about joking or having fun using the phrases or sentences what everyone thought about the CI lies. :naughty:
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That may have been you're intent, but it wasn't hers.

I agree with you to a point. The problem with implanting young children is that we don't know what they want. They don't know, either, because it's all they know due to be implanted so early in life. In the case of FJ's daughter, though, she clearly enjoys hearing, so I don't see any issue there. However, I'm sure there are going to those who will remove the external equipment and decide to embrace Deaf culture in the future. It's happened before. I'm NOT saying all will do this, but, some probably will.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
The problem with implanting young children is that we don't know what they want.
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There is no problem with implanting young children, in fact they derive the most benefits from implants.

The problem is people like you who have no experience with cochlear implants hanging around a forum and giving inaccurate advice on a topic of which they have no personal knowledge and/or experience.

How many children have you ever had to make the cochlear implant decision for?
Rick
 
wow what is so bad about CI?? i know a girl that have them and speak and hear as good as i do and i only use one hearing aid on my left and on my right i refused to use hearing aid on my right because it does not sound right...
 
rick48 said:
There is no problem with implanting young children, in fact they derive the most benefits from implants.

The problem is people like you who have no experience with cochlear implants hanging around a forum and giving inaccurate advice on a topic of which they have no personal knowledge and/or experience.

How many children have you ever had to make the cochlear implant decision for?
Rick
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Rick, why are you taking a hit at OceanBreeze when she actually said something in your favour? I believed what she said was very balanced and neutral.
 
AlleyCat said:
This is a "lies about ci" thread, remember.
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Except that calling some of the things posted here "lies" is a lie itself. For example, many children with cochlear implants do require years of intensive speech therapy, and some implanted children do grow up feeling like they're stuck between two cultures, and some implanted children do have trouble socializing, and we really don't know the long-term effects of cochlear implants. Yes, they've been around for roughly 25-years, but it's only within the last ten-years that infants as young as a few months old have received them. What are the long-term effects of someone living 80-years with a piece of technology in their skull? We don't know, and we won't know for another few decades. It could very well be that there are no negative effects, but we can't say that for sure, at least not yet. And, yes, bacterial meningitis remains a very real concern. And so on. These are not lies. The extent to which they are true might be exaggerated (or downplayed, if you're on the other side of the debate), but they are not lies.

So about all this thread seems to have accomplished is trying to replace one set of misconceptions with another. Yay for progress and mutual understanding. :roll:

For my part, I will let my son make his own decision about whether or not he wants implants and only when he is old enough to understand and comprehensively explain the risks and benefits.
 
Mountain Man said:
Except that calling some of the things posted here "lies" is a lie itself. For example, many children with cochlear implants do require years of intensive speech therapy, and some implanted children do grow up feeling like they're stuck between two cultures, and some implanted children do have trouble socializing, and we really don't know the long-term effects of cochlear implants. Yes, they've been around for roughly 25-years, but it's only within the last ten-years that infants as young as a few months old have received them. What are the long-term effects of someone living 80-years with a piece of technology in their skull? We don't know, and we won't know for another few decades. It could very well be that there are no negative effects, but we can't say that for sure, at least not yet. And, yes, bacterial meningitis remains a very real concern. And so on. These are not lies. The extent to which they are true might be exaggerated (or downplayed, if you're on the other side of the debate), but they are not lies.

So about all this thread seems to have accomplished is trying to replace one set of misconceptions with another. Yay for progress and mutual understanding. :roll:

For my part, I will let my son make his own decision about whether or not he wants implants and only when he is old enough to understand and comprehensively explain the risks and benefits.
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Then that window of opportunity would've pass by the time he decides to a have implant which he would not derive much benefit from either oral or auditory development. The therapy would be even more intense because it becomes harder with the brain being less plastic and less neuron development at a much more older age beyond the age of 5. Which is why its crucial for parents to decide on implant when their child is at much more receptive and younger age.
 
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