Liars?

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VamPyroX

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Know what I hate? I hate people who lie all the time. Even worse, they're caught... but still won't admit it.

I knew one student here at RIT who said that her teacher was out to get her. I asked her how many classes she missed and she said that she missed 7 classes. I then told her that she was probably failing because she missed too many classes. She kept denying the fact that it was because of her absences. A lot of professors at NTID grade a lot on attendance. There's usually 2 to 4 classes per week and missing 7 classes is 2 to 3 weeks worth of classes missed out. She's lucky that she isn't in RIT since some RIT professors drop a letter grade per class missed or only allow 2 absences per quarter before failing them.

There was another person who would claim to be one thing, but it was obvious that this person was lying... yet, they won't admit it. For instance, one guy told everyone that he was a manager at a retail store. The truth was that he was an overnight stocker. One gal told everyone that she was in college. She wasn't a student.

When are these people going to learn to accept the fact that they are what they really are... not lie all the time?
 
VamPyroX said:
When are these people going to learn to accept the fact that they are what they really are... not lie all the time?
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That is people for you, Vampy. There are some people that lies reflexively, for an instance, I had a ex-friend who kept on lying to my face on six different times apart, was caught, who knows if her whole life has been a one big lie, tends to lie to make herself look better and acts innocent for any wrong-doing. I always tell people that honestly is the best policy, if someone cannot be honest with me, then what is it worth to keep the friendship?
 
VamPyroX said:
Know what I hate? I hate people who lie all the time. Even worse, they're caught... but still won't admit it.

I knew one student here at RIT who said that her teacher was out to get her. I asked her how many classes she missed and she said that she missed 7 classes. I then told her that she was probably failing because she missed too many classes. She kept denying the fact that it was because of her absences. A lot of professors at NTID grade a lot on attendance. There's usually 2 to 4 classes per week and missing 7 classes is 2 to 3 weeks worth of classes missed out. She's lucky that she isn't in RIT since some RIT professors drop a letter grade per class missed or only allow 2 absences per quarter before failing them.

There was another person who would claim to be one thing, but it was obvious that this person was lying... yet, they won't admit it. For instance, one guy told everyone that he was a manager at a retail store. The truth was that he was an overnight stocker. One gal told everyone that she was in college. She wasn't a student.

When are these people going to learn to accept the fact that they are what they really are... not lie all the time?
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Well, all you have to do is worryin' about urself and focus on ur life. If, someone lies that you hate so much, then why should you care about someone who is lyin' that you hate so much ? You know the ones who lied alot or too much, they are the ones who are not mature enough to understand how that " lie " would hurt some people's feelin' because, of the trust have been damaged. Gee - it wasn't worth it to be their friends when bein' honest is very sincere and priceless.
 
My boss told me once.

When someone lies, bad karama*sp* will come up to them to having something happen to them so we will know that they DID lie.

Since, I noticed that happened at my work who did lie to my boss, they got alot happened to them in their life. :|

So, people who are liars aren't that worth in other people's life...
 
I knew that someone did lie to me after that I just avoid them! that s it and think of yourself and your care family mostly than everyone! :):):)
 
There are always gonna be ppl who are liars. Ive known several pathological liars--people who keep lying and believe in their own lies as well. They do give me a big headache cuz Im like "are they telling me the truth or b.s.??" *already getting a huge migraine headache here---gonna get some ice pack for my head*
 
yeah vampy i know what u mean.. i met someone in chatroom long time ago and told me she went to college and that she is a nurse. i asked her what kind? she said prn nurse. i asked her do u know what prn mean? it was right then i busted her right there. why lie when u said u are when u never were? for attention? or want to look good ??

honesty is the best policy..and u will keep your friends? right? jeez whatever.. ugh!
 
Lets suppose if this person denies something and/or
refuse to admit this, then does this mean
that this person is a Liar automatically ?


Also, let's suppose if this person tend to
change his/her mind many times, does this
mean thsi person is a Liar automatically ?
 
Refusing to admit something or changing mind isn't lying.

Refusing to admit the truth or changing stories is lying.

In this case, this gal missed 7 classes. The truth is that she was failing because she missed 7 classes. The lie is that her teacher hates her.
 
whoever asked for it being continue lying their teeth...

Will come their faces conquestion and become losing their friendship...
whoever prefer choice want to continue lying... I will not accept you become in my friendship reason betraying! Isn't worth!
 
My opinion is stop concerning your self with it. I have come to accept that everyone lies. Just stop caring, if they aren't your friends, or you have no real personal obligation to them just ignore it. When people lie its in hopes of some sort of gratification, either financial, personal, or just the gratification of possibly hiding something or covering up something that they are not proud of. And for a lot of people lying is just a lot easier than the truth.

For example the woman that said shes a student. Everyone judges us, and sometimes it saves time, spares us from strange looks, spares us from pity, or just even helps us escape from admitting the truth to our selves. The woman could have been a single mother that had to drop out of college because of her child, and shes having a really hard time right now. Its a lot easier to just say "im a student" and spare everyone the time and maybe even spare your self from getting upset than saying "im a single mother thats not happy with her life at all"

There have been times when we all have had to tell a lie. Often times I am asked by acquaintances or people i dont know very well that ask me if I am single. Im not single, i have a girlfriend. But its often times a lot easier to just lie and say "yep im single." Because it spares me from possibly being harassed, it spares them from maybe feeling silly about asking me, it just spares me a lot of the extra time and energy that i feel might be consumed by telling the truth.

You may say "well thats a silly reason to lie" or "thats a silly thing to lie about" but its not silly to them. For whatever reason we all have, we have ALL lied about something, and it doesnt matter how silly or small it is, its still a lie. So you can take the time and energy to get all flustered and upset about it and try to figure out why anyone would lie about something like a job title or being a student but in the end it just doesnt matter.

We may not like lying or liars but lets just face it, no one likes to lie. It doesnt feel good to lie, but sometimes it just feels so much easier than the truth. So for whatever reason we lie, and for whatever we lie about its just not important.

If the person is your friend then maybe invest some time into talking to them and building up their self esteem enough so they maybe dont feel like these are things that they have to lie about. But if you dont know them, just let it go.


And I got a bit confused by your statement it seemed like your advocating one or two lies, but lying all the time is much worse. A lie is a lie, no matter how many or how few times you tell it. Just the same, its still a lie, no matter what it is youre lying about or whatever reason you are lying.
 
I think that's what surprised me the most is seeing some people intend to keep lying and lying, as they have alot of hate in themselves just to see someone fall and those people should be ashamed of themselves because what goes around comes around and we can not change or be responsible for other people but we can change and be responsible for ourselves and our own actions....Let's them make a fool out of themselves for all I care as I'm a strong believer of Karma as what goes around comes around....:aw:
 
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I think that's what surprised me the most is seeing some people intend to keep lying and lying, as they have alot of hate in themselves just to see someone fall and those people should be ashamed of themselves because what goes around comes around and we can not change or be responsible for other people but we can change and be responsible for ourselves and our own actions....Let's them make a fool out of themselves for all I care as I'm a strong believer of Karma as what goes around comes around....:aw:
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Karma isnt about what goes around comes around.

Karma is a sum of all that an individual has done, is currently doing and will do. Individuals go through certain processes and accompanying experiences throughout their lives which they have chosen, and those would be based on the results of their own creations: "karma". Karma is not about retribution, vengeance, punishment or reward. Karma simply deals with what is. The effects of all deeds actively create past, present and future experiences, thus making one responsible for one's own life, and the pain and joy it brings to others. In religions that incorporate reincarnation, karma extends through one's present life and all past and future lives as well.


Karma is not about getting even, or punishment, or even about rewards and it should not be treated like its about punishment or rewards. Karma is not a punishment or reward, it just is.
 
I loath and dispise liars. The trouble with me, i have a great memory. When people tell me something i remember it. My ex - boyfriends have gotten so frustrated because not only can i tell you verbatum what you said but also where you were standing what you were wearing and what you were doing. Even if you were telling the truth. Just how my mind works. I have a love for history and remember details of battles and years and all that crap. I think the same thing that helps me with that helps me in everyday conversation. When people lie i let them. Liars are GENERALLY people who will talk and talk. If you let the person talk enough they fall into the holes they have dug for themselves. It's hard to lie to me i figure them out, or remember that you told me something totally different. These people i allow to lie and lie and lie pulling the noose of their own deceit tighter and tighter. I wait until that right perfect moment and then i snatch their lies and they choke on what they have done, that they supposedly cared and blah blah blah.
If you lie to me it shows me you have little regard and no respect for me.
 
Southern said:
I loath and dispise liars. The trouble with me, i have a great memory. When people tell me something i remember it. My ex - boyfriends have gotten so frustrated because not only can i tell you verbatum what you said but also where you were standing what you were wearing and what you were doing. Even if you were telling the truth. Just how my mind works. I have a love for history and remember details of battles and years and all that crap. I think the same thing that helps me with that helps me in everyday conversation. When people lie i let them. Liars are GENERALLY people who will talk and talk. If you let the person talk enough they fall into the holes they have dug for themselves. It's hard to lie to me i figure them out, or remember that you told me something totally different. These people i allow to lie and lie and lie pulling the noose of their own deceit tighter and tighter. I wait until that right perfect moment and then i snatch their lies and they choke on what they have done, that they supposedly cared and blah blah blah.
If you lie to me it shows me you have little regard and no respect for me.
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I have a bachelors in psychology with a minor in philosophy and I can tell you that sometimes it is disregard for respect, but also sometimes lying is just as much an addiction as drugs are. Sometimes people honestly can not help it, for absolutely no reason they will just blurt out a lie and when asked why they will tell you that it slipped, its not premeditated, they dont mean to harm others but that they just cant stop it. Its honestly a problem.

But as well when its someone that you know and care about thats lying to get some sort of gain, such as someone that lies about cheating, in order to gain or keep your trust. That is different.

People that lie about mundane, often silly things will most often confess that they just dont know why they do it.

But anyone who says they loathe and despise liars I have to question that they might be a bit hypocritical, from the time that we are young we are taught that sometimes lying isnt just acceptable, its the right thing to do. We have all lied.

No one likes to be lied to, and at the same time, no one likes to be wrapped in a web full of lies. When you find someone lying to you that you care about, the worst thing you could possibly do is rudely rip them off of their feet and make them lose any bit of self confidence they might have. If you care about that persons friendship you need to talk to them and ask them why they felt it was necessary to lie to you. They will either say that 1) they just didnt mean it, it just happened. or 2) that they lied because they were scared of your reaction to the truth.
 
yea i know what u mean!!! i dont like someone who lie to my face alike that.. it will hurt each other..
 
I despise lies! I don't understand why ppl lies all time. They will or already lose trustworthy by family and friends! SAD!
 
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