ismi said:
And why is it that so many Deaf see disability as something to be ashamed of?
Because educated Deaf people are every bit as intelligent and competent as Hearing people. The problem with the label of disability is that it's actually not true. The only real issue a deaf person has is ability to acquire language. The fact that Hearing people are using audial languages and deaf people can't hear makes it very hard for a deaf person to learn an audial language. Visual languages are in some cases better, some cases worse than audial languages. If more Hearing people used visual languages natively rather than using audial language (as is starting to happen because of Deaf education and the rapidly rising number of Deaf families and CODAs), then the 'disability' doesn't exist for a deaf person. Hearing is not a really important sense. It's nice, but it's not required to function, barring the communication barrier.
ismi said:
I am HOH, but I am also disabled, and proud of it.
I am hh also. I do not identify myself as being disabled. I'm not an advocate or a critic of cultural Deafness. I'm a critic of the idea that physical deafness is actually debilitating to anyone. I'm a critic of the oral philosophy and the notion that a deaf person should be forced to communicate in such a fashion that he or she can't. I'm a critic of the idea that English has to be the only official language in the US when 30% of the population can't understand it well or at all.
ismi said:
I would also point out that not all of us had the opportunity to learn ASL when we were young; picking up an entirely new language and culture when you're an adult is not easy.
I did not learn ASL as a child. I'm learning now, as an hh adult. I sign in a fashion that is probably best described as pidgin sign language rather than contact sign or pidgin sign english because the sentence structure I use is not pure ASL but is closer to ASL than English. I sign because I want to, not necessarily because I need to. Making excuses to not learn something that would be useful to you in life is just avoidance and denial of your being dhh. I made the active choice to be trilingual. Making that choice is the main difference between children and adults in terms of language. Children do not choose what languages they learn. Adults are able to make that decision, and you'll find that if you fully accept and decide on your desire to learn a language as an adult, it's just as easy as when you were younger.
As far as picking up the culture, I have no objective means by which I can evaluate whether I fit in among Deaf people better or worse than Hearing people. So I'll refrain from deciding that.
ismi said:
Whenever I hear a Deafie complain about HOH/LDAs "acting disabled", it reminds me of the bad old days when wheelies (among others) were hidden away from society, largely because of fear. Deaf should understand this discrimination and oppression, and not knock disability simply because it's not how they identify.
My observation is that Deaf would think that the hh who claim the disability label are doing so out of desire for sympathy. If a Deaf person can function at a very high level, the same level as Hearing peers, without the label of 'impaired' or 'disabled', then they'd logically assume that anyone who is not otherwise disabled (ie no learning disabilities, mental illnesses or physical disabilities) should be able to function at the same level as their hearing peers without the disabled label, without special accomodations and exceptions made for them.
It logically follows that seeing that a person can't function at the same level, is not otherwise disabled and has the requisite amount of knowledge and intelligence that those who take the disabled label are doing it for reasons other than thier being dhh, desire for sympathy being the primary of these.
Thus, Deaf people rarely accept hh people who act like this because while the Hearing community, which thinks of being dhh as a disability will sympathize and make exceptions or accomodations, the Deaf do not see this as a valid disability and will therefore refuse to recognize it. They then procede to not accept the person because anyone who has the disability view of deafness is thus fundamentally incompatible with Deaf people on those grounds, and therefore has a major character flaw.
It bothers me that this opinion is pretty much ubiquitous among Deaf individuals, but it's not going to go away any time soon unless Hearing people start accepting Deaf people as Deaf people rather than trying to make them Hearing.