Lawsuit: iPods may cause ... eh?

This... is... retarded...!

:greddy:

These people need to get a life. Everyone knows that listening to sounds that's too loud can cause hearing loss! Jeez!
 
It's the user's fault, not Apple's fault. People need to use their common sense!
They want money, nothing more (the customers). They're looking for easy money. There have been ridiclous lawsuits going all over the place.
 
sequoias said:
It's the user's fault, not Apple's fault. People need to use their common sense!
They want money, nothing more (the customers). They're looking for easy money. There have been ridiclous lawsuits going all over the place.

Hmmm, I can sue them that any Ipod does not restore my hearing...
 
ROFL good one mookie LMAO that makes SENSE

any business that has something loud or something frivlious is gonna get lawsuitted so to tell u the truth, im not suprise they would actually bitch abt this....

for me its mainly to think twice, if its too loud turn it down and dont go leaving it on ur ears all day its on you not on the brand name/pod names !
 
In light of this, I'm going to sue Siemens because I was not informed that my hearing aid may allow me to hear better than I normally could. I'm also going to sue Flexon because I was not informed that my glasses may allow me to see. I feel lied to, violated. Frack you, capitalism.
 
Vampyrox - I agree with you...retarded indeed.

Unfortunately, there are far too many Americans who have lost their minds and worst yet have absolutely no common sense. To sue over ridiculous things is becoming "passe" in society.

Sad to say, it doesn't surprise me at all anymore. Reminds me of a idiot in Indiana who apparently thought his mower would make a great bush trimmer. Yes, he picked it up with his hands while it was running and discovered his fingers missing. Sued the manufacturer for not putting a warning label on the mower and believe it or not...he won!!! Who is more stupid...the man with the mower or the jury??? :dunno:
 
sr171soars said:
Sad to say, it doesn't surprise me at all anymore. Reminds me of a idiot in Indiana who apparently thought his mower would make a great bush trimmer. Yes, he picked it up with his hands while it was running and discovered his fingers missing. Sued the manufacturer for not putting a warning label on the mower and believe it or not...he won!!! Who is more stupid...the man with the mower or the jury??? :dunno:

Oh...my....goodness.... :ugh: He lost his fingers through a mower because of his own STUPIDITY? The jury was stupid too because they probably don't realize it was the guy who had his own fingers cut off by a MACHINE that he picked up....not the manufacturer's fault.

What had this world come to? :|
 
sr171soars said:
Vampyrox - I agree with you...retarded indeed.

Unfortunately, there are far too many Americans who have lost their minds and worst yet have absolutely no common sense. To sue over ridiculous things is becoming "passe" in society.

Sad to say, it doesn't surprise me at all anymore. Reminds me of a idiot in Indiana who apparently thought his mower would make a great bush trimmer. Yes, he picked it up with his hands while it was running and discovered his fingers missing. Sued the manufacturer for not putting a warning label on the mower and believe it or not...he won!!! Who is more stupid...the man with the mower or the jury??? :dunno:
I would have to say that the court was stupid for even allowing the case to happen. If it was me, I would have these people sent to a mental hospital.

I'll probably invite some random kids out of nowhere and ask them this question... "What will happen if you put your hand in a lawn mower?" After their smart answer, I'll look at this prick and say... "you shouldn't even be operating a lawn mower cuz of your dumb-assed intelligence!" CASE CLOSED! ;)
 
I would rather for them to sue lawn motor companies because their running lawn motor is way too loud. That would make a big difference.

What about airplanes, commerical trucks, noise background sound near highways?

For iPod, it's their fault for put the earplugs too close to their ears and turn up the volume loud manually.

It would be interesting for hearing to become deaf so that they finally realize how difficult for most deaf people's life so that we would feel equal as a deaf domain.
 
webexplorer said:
It would be interesting for hearing to become deaf so that they finally realize how difficult for most deaf people's life so that we would feel equal as a deaf domain.

Not going to happen... If a hearing person goes deaf, they're still basically hearing in terms of communication and behaviour unless they make the effort to become more in line with other deaf people... And since most hearing people (even if they may be physically deaf) see deafness as a disability, they'll try to hide their own deafness and pretend it doesn't exist, or claim that their hearing aid(s) completely resolve their difficulty hearing.
 
No, using the lawn mower is a risk that people are willing to take if they want to cut the grass without using ear plugs. In the real world, policemen wear ear plugs to protect their ears during shooting practice. At the same time, they know the risk of hearing loss when shooting while on duty. It's like the risk of dying in the line of duty. If an officer becomes deaf from shooting too much or dies in the line of fire, it would be pointless to sue the police department for that.
 
VamPyroX said:
In the real world, policemen wear ear plugs to protect their ears during shooting practice. At the same time, they know the risk of hearing loss when shooting while on duty

I have never thought about shooting practice, and that would make impact their ears from being too loud in a few seconds. Wow. I am wondering do we, deafies, really need earplugs for shooting practice?
 
webexplorer said:
I have never thought about shooting practice, and that would make impact their ears from being too loud in a few seconds. Wow. I am wondering do we, deafies, really need earplugs for shooting practice?

..Thinking about this, one would think that the answer would be no, but it might not be that simple.

Remember, hearing loss (or, rather, the danger of it) isn't the only reason people wear protection when firing weapons. The sound of a loud gun will still inflict pain on a deaf person, even if the deaf person cannot perceive the sound. If you have any nerves in your ear at all, it would still be quite painful.

So yes, wearing ear protection is a Good Idea (TM), even if it's not for the purpose of protecting hearing.
 
webexplorer said:
I have never thought about shooting practice, and that would make impact their ears from being too loud in a few seconds. Wow. I am wondering do we, deafies, really need earplugs for shooting practice?
Yes, it's recommended that everyone... deaf included... to wear ear plugs. It's not only to prevent you from becoming deaf, but to reduce the risk of ear problems. Other things could change such as blowing up your ear drum. ;)
 
VamPyroX said:
Yes, it's recommended that everyone... deaf included... to wear ear plugs. It's not only to prevent you from becoming deaf, but to reduce the risk of ear problems. Other things could change such as blowing up your ear drum. ;)

Exactly right! Just because one doesn't hear doesn't mean one can't hurt your ear from loud noises. Eardrums are still necessary to protect the middle and inner ear.
 
Damn straight—I wear protection religiously when I go to the firing range. I’m not gonna risk losing one iota of the residual hearing that I have.
 
Teresh said:
since most hearing people (even if they may be physically deaf) see deafness as a disability, they'll try to hide their own deafness and pretend it doesn't exist, or claim that their hearing aid(s) completely resolve their difficulty hearing.

And why is it that so many Deaf see disability as something to be ashamed of? I am HOH, but I am also disabled, and proud of it. I would also point out that not all of us had the opportunity to learn ASL when we were young; picking up an entirely new language and culture when you're an adult is not easy.

Whenever I hear a Deafie complain about HOH/LDAs "acting disabled", it reminds me of the bad old days when wheelies (among others) were hidden away from society, largely because of fear. Deaf should understand this discrimination and oppression, and not knock disability simply because it's not how they identify.
 
ismi said:
And why is it that so many Deaf see disability as something to be ashamed of?

Because educated Deaf people are every bit as intelligent and competent as Hearing people. The problem with the label of disability is that it's actually not true. The only real issue a deaf person has is ability to acquire language. The fact that Hearing people are using audial languages and deaf people can't hear makes it very hard for a deaf person to learn an audial language. Visual languages are in some cases better, some cases worse than audial languages. If more Hearing people used visual languages natively rather than using audial language (as is starting to happen because of Deaf education and the rapidly rising number of Deaf families and CODAs), then the 'disability' doesn't exist for a deaf person. Hearing is not a really important sense. It's nice, but it's not required to function, barring the communication barrier.

ismi said:
I am HOH, but I am also disabled, and proud of it.

I am hh also. I do not identify myself as being disabled. I'm not an advocate or a critic of cultural Deafness. I'm a critic of the idea that physical deafness is actually debilitating to anyone. I'm a critic of the oral philosophy and the notion that a deaf person should be forced to communicate in such a fashion that he or she can't. I'm a critic of the idea that English has to be the only official language in the US when 30% of the population can't understand it well or at all.

ismi said:
I would also point out that not all of us had the opportunity to learn ASL when we were young; picking up an entirely new language and culture when you're an adult is not easy.

I did not learn ASL as a child. I'm learning now, as an hh adult. I sign in a fashion that is probably best described as pidgin sign language rather than contact sign or pidgin sign english because the sentence structure I use is not pure ASL but is closer to ASL than English. I sign because I want to, not necessarily because I need to. Making excuses to not learn something that would be useful to you in life is just avoidance and denial of your being dhh. I made the active choice to be trilingual. Making that choice is the main difference between children and adults in terms of language. Children do not choose what languages they learn. Adults are able to make that decision, and you'll find that if you fully accept and decide on your desire to learn a language as an adult, it's just as easy as when you were younger.

As far as picking up the culture, I have no objective means by which I can evaluate whether I fit in among Deaf people better or worse than Hearing people. So I'll refrain from deciding that.

ismi said:
Whenever I hear a Deafie complain about HOH/LDAs "acting disabled", it reminds me of the bad old days when wheelies (among others) were hidden away from society, largely because of fear. Deaf should understand this discrimination and oppression, and not knock disability simply because it's not how they identify.

My observation is that Deaf would think that the hh who claim the disability label are doing so out of desire for sympathy. If a Deaf person can function at a very high level, the same level as Hearing peers, without the label of 'impaired' or 'disabled', then they'd logically assume that anyone who is not otherwise disabled (ie no learning disabilities, mental illnesses or physical disabilities) should be able to function at the same level as their hearing peers without the disabled label, without special accomodations and exceptions made for them.

It logically follows that seeing that a person can't function at the same level, is not otherwise disabled and has the requisite amount of knowledge and intelligence that those who take the disabled label are doing it for reasons other than thier being dhh, desire for sympathy being the primary of these.

Thus, Deaf people rarely accept hh people who act like this because while the Hearing community, which thinks of being dhh as a disability will sympathize and make exceptions or accomodations, the Deaf do not see this as a valid disability and will therefore refuse to recognize it. They then procede to not accept the person because anyone who has the disability view of deafness is thus fundamentally incompatible with Deaf people on those grounds, and therefore has a major character flaw.

It bothers me that this opinion is pretty much ubiquitous among Deaf individuals, but it's not going to go away any time soon unless Hearing people start accepting Deaf people as Deaf people rather than trying to make them Hearing.
 
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