Law Requires Ultrasound Before Abortion

Beowulf said:
She also mentioned STD's. You mean you can catch those? You left that part out. :lol:
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I addressed the factual inaccuracy. You can contract an STI from your partner, but you cannot contract AIDS from your partner.

You cannot catch or contract or in any way get AIDS from another person.
 
Aleser said:
I addressed the factual inaccuracy. You can contract an STI from your partner, but you cannot contract AIDS from your partner.

You cannot catch or contract or in any way get AIDS from another person.
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You can if there were open sores at the time. It is transferable by blood. Therefore, if each partner had some kind of open wound, even as small as a small scratch, AIDS could be transferable. Not will, but could.
 
KristinaB said:
You can if there were open sores at the time. It is transferable by blood. Therefore, if each partner had some kind of open wound, even as small as a small scratch, AIDS could be transferable. Not will, but could.
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Or through sperm. Or female vaginal fluid.
 
KristinaB said:
You can if there were open sores at the time. It is transferable by blood. Therefore, if each partner had some kind of open wound, even as small as a small scratch, AIDS could be transferable. Not will, but could.
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You cannot catch AIDS no matter what activity you engage in in the world, with or without a condom.
 
shel90 said:
I got pregnant due to a faulty condom. Was that my fault?
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No, it wasn't ur fault, Shel. Things like this do happen. But my guess is that you took steps to prevent another pregnancy after the baby was born? Another method of birth control? You have 2 children, right?...I'm sure you didn't get pregnant every time you had sex...so you took control of the situation, and protected urself, knowing that condoms do break on occassion.
 
rockin'robin said:
No, it wasn't ur fault, Shel. Things like this do happen. But my guess is that you took steps to prevent another pregnancy after the baby was born? Another method of birth control? You have 2 children, right?...I'm sure you didn't get pregnant every time you had sex...so you took control of the situation, and protected urself, knowing that condoms do break on occassion.
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Rofl. The "you're not like those dirty sluts who might as well be getting pregnant on purpose!" argument. Because when you know someone, it feels wrong to call them a dirty slut, but you're perfectly free to judge strangers. -Those other- women must be acting irresponsibly, and Shel must not be, because it can't fit into your world view that responsible people can get pregnant by accident- multiple times, even!

Abortion is a 100% effective method of birth control. That IS taking a step to prevent having a child- it just isn't one you like.

No other method of birth control, short of radical life-shortening hysterectomy or oophorectomy, is 100% effective.
 
Sure, there's abstinence. 100% guaranteed that no one would get pregnant.
 
Okay - it is not AIDS, but HIV. So yes, you do not catch AIDS , but HIV is transferable.

Can I get HIV from vaginal sex?
Yes, it is possible for either partner to become infected with HIV through vaginal sex* (intercourse). In fact, it is the most common way the virus is transmitted in much of the world. HIV can be found in the blood, semen (cum), pre-seminal fluid (pre-cum) or vaginal fluid of a person infected with the virus.

In women, the lining of the vagina can sometimes tear and possibly allow HIV to enter the body. HIV can also be directly absorbed through the mucous membranes that line the vagina and cervix.

In men, HIV can enter the body through the urethra (the opening at the tip of the penis) or through small cuts or open sores on the penis.

Risk for HIV infection increases if you or a partner has a sexually transmitted disease (STD). See also "Is there a connection between HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases?"

Not having (abstaining from) sex is the most effective way to avoid HIV. If you choose to have vaginal sex, use a latex condom to help protect both you and your partner from HIV and other STDs. Studies have shown that latex condoms are very effective, though not perfect, in preventing HIV transmission when used correctly and consistently. If either partner is allergic to latex, plastic (polyurethane) condoms for either the male or female can be used.

For more information on latex condoms, see "Male Latex Condoms and Sexually Transmitted Diseases."

If you have additional questions or are concerned about personal behaviors, call CDC-INFO 24 Hours/Day at 1-800-CDC-INFO (232-4636), 1-888-232-6348 (TTY), in English, en Español.

* For the purpose of this FAQ, vaginal sex or intercourse refers to sexual activity between a man and a woman involving the insertion of the penis into the vagina.

HIV Transmission | Questions and Answers | CDC HIV/AIDS
 
kokonut said:
Sure, there's abstinence. 100% guaranteed that no one would get pregnant.
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Reference back to my post to Joey: most people want sex. It is a natural, normal, and healthy urge present in the majority of the population. Sex feels good, and sexual people having sex makes them happier and healthier.

Abstinence during your three or so fertile decades as a female is, well, impractical to say the least.
 
KristinaB said:
Okay - it is not AIDS, but HIV. So yes, you do not catch AIDS , but HIV is transferable.
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That's the point I was waiting for you to get to. Several people responding to this post do not understand the fundamental difference between HIV and AIDS, but presume the right to lecture other people on sexual behavior and its risks.

When you have to google AIDS to figure out what it is, you probably shouldn't be telling people they can "catch" it.
 
rockin'robin said:
No, it wasn't ur fault, Shel. Things like this do happen. But my guess is that you took steps to prevent another pregnancy after the baby was born? Another method of birth control? You have 2 children, right?...I'm sure you didn't get pregnant every time you had sex...so you took control of the situation, and protected urself, knowing that condoms do break on occassion.
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That pregnancy produced my beautiful 14 year old daughter. At the time, I was a full-time undergrad student at Arizona State and married. My ex and I agreed not to have kids until after we were both done with college but didnt happen. The other times, condoms were fine. I wasnt on the pill because I was having problems with headaches at the time so the doctor took me off of the pills to see if the headaches went away.

Then, 8 years later, it happened again with the condom slipping off during intercourse and I got pregnant again with my son.

Those were the only two times that birth control broke or didnt work and both times, I got pregnant.

I am sure things like that has happened to other couples and they end up having to make difficult decisions. For me, I was lucky I didnt have to make that decision to abort the pregnancies because I had no reason (financially, age, partner, health) but other people may have different reasons hence making that decision to abort and they dont need people judging them.

As for people who are careless with sex and not think of the consequences, that's another story.

The point is ..we cant control what people do in the bedroom and making that decision to abort or not is a personal and private decision for the people involved, not the world's decision.
 
Aleser said:
That's the point I was waiting for you to get to. Several people responding to this post do not understand the fundamental difference between HIV and AIDS, but presume the right to lecture other people on sexual behavior and its risks.

When you have to google AIDS to figure out what it is, you probably shouldn't be telling people they can "catch" it.
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I figured you were being a grammar nazi. :P
 
Beowulf said:
I figured you were being a grammar nazi. :P
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gram·mar
noun /ˈgramər/ The whole system and structure of a language or of languages in general, usually taken as consisting of syntax and morphology (including inflections) and sometimes also phonology and semantics

gram·mar
noun /ˈgramər/
A set of actual or presumed prescriptive notions about correct use of a language

Now that we've established what "grammar" means, you'll find that I was not being a "grammar nazi"- I was being an accuracy Nazi.

HIV and AIDS mean completely different things. You used the wrong word because you didn't know better, not because you made a grammatical error. Own up to it and take it as an opportunity to realize that you might, in fact, not know as much as you think you do about sexuality. :)
 
Aleser said:
gram·mar
noun /ˈgramər/ The whole system and structure of a language or of languages in general, usually taken as consisting of syntax and morphology (including inflections) and sometimes also phonology and semantics

gram·mar
noun /ˈgramər/
A set of actual or presumed prescriptive notions about correct use of a language

Now that we've established what "grammar" means, you'll find that I was not being a "grammar nazi"- I was being an accuracy Nazi.

HIV and AIDS mean completely different things. You used the wrong word because you didn't know better, not because you made a grammatical error. Own up to it and take it as an opportunity to realize that you might, in fact, not know as much as you think you do about sexuality. :)
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What wrong word did I use? I only said "full-blown AIDS." And as for "catching" it, everyone who engages in sex knows the meaning, Nazi or not. I will defer to others since I am pure as the driven snow. :P
 
StSapphire said:
lol, wtf is happening in this thread now?
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I am merely demonstrating my frustration with people who know -very little about sex- aside from where to stick it, trying to impose their moral code surrounding sex on other people.

Call it something of a sport.
 
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