Jury Duties Call

[Reba]

Sounds probably right to me about the German government issue.

But, being a jury is the most difficult job to deal with because some jurors are not too bright. It's because they did not use their common sense if it is a very small crime that send him/her to a prison for 30 years. For sake. I believe that a small crime that would be a job to clean up the town or clean up the highway for 30 to 60 days. A prison is a bad idea because it creates their mind when they get out and teach other people to do their crime.

That's how it happened to my incredible stupid young cousin who bought some pots on the street. I stopped seeing him anymore. His mother had her home phone number for 40 years, and she forced to change the number because of her son's bad friends trying to call him.

You do realize that a defendant has the right to waive a jury trial, right? Also, many "minor" cases are resolved by the magistrate in petit court without juries.

 

[webexplorer]

If the defendant knows a jury, it will be postponed for another court date with new juries. Even, a jury knows this defendant, the jury is waived. That will be also postponed.

I am not quite sure what you mean about the magistrate in petition without juries. The serious issue that cannot be solved until the judge makes a decision. Is that what this mean?

 

[Tousi]

It's really sad how many people don't want to fulfill their duty as American citizens by serving on juries.

I totally agree with you! This is our bedrock! I am on vacation now but will be reporting for jury duty about a week after we get back. Shame on those who don't understand that we have a right to a trial and be judged BY OUR PEERS or let the judge decide your fate.

I am writing this in Eureka, CA in one of their Kamping Kabins, lol.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

You obviously don't know anything about the Constitution of the USA or the American jury system.

Just because the German government doesn't trust its citizens to make reasonable judgments doesn't mean all countries are that way.

Excuse me please, I know what jury system is about because I born and raised in England. They do have similar jury system as your country which I disagree to.

Next time, don't tell me that I don't know anything. I would not post if I don't know anything.

Anyway, I do not trust to invite the citizens to make judgement in the court.

I prefer to leave judge with his/her colleagues alone with their decision after collect prosecutor and lawyer. It's their prfessional job task, not our.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Sounds probably right to me about the German government issue.

But, being a jury is the most difficult job to deal with because some jurors are not too bright. It's because they did not use their common sense if it is a very small crime that send him/her to a prison for 30 years. For sake. I believe that a small crime that would be a job to clean up the town or clean up the highway for 30 to 60 days. A prison is a bad idea because it creates their mind when they get out and teach other people to do their crime.

That's how it happened to my incredible stupid young cousin who bought some pots on the street. I stopped seeing him anymore. His mother had her home phone number for 40 years, and she forced to change the number because of her son's bad friends trying to call him.

That's why I rather to leave court's decision together with her/his colleagues due their professional skill.

See the view over pros and cons about German and America law system.
FindLaw's Writ - Sebok: How Germany Views U.s. Tort Law

 

[Liebling:-)))]

If the defendant knows a jury, it will be postponed for another court date with new juries. Even, a jury knows this defendant, the jury is waived. That will be also postponed.

I am not quite sure what you mean about the magistrate in petition without juries. The serious issue that cannot be solved until the judge makes a decision. Is that what this mean?

You never know that nobody knows that some jury know the victims or defendant when they are in the court?

 

[Reba]

...I am writing this in Eureka, CA in one of their Kamping Kabins, lol.

I'm jealous!

 

[Reba]

Excuse me please, I know what jury system is about because I born and raised in England. They do have similar jury system as your country which I disagree to.

Next time, don't tell me that I don't know anything. I would not post if I don't know anything.

I said you don't know about the American jury system.

"Only Experts should do it because it's their job task, not rely on American citizens."

In America, it's not only the job task of "experts" to judge people. If you knew about our system, you would know that.

Amendment 6 - Right to Speedy Trial, Confrontation of Witnesses. Ratified 12/15/1791.

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

Amendment 7 - Trial by Jury in Civil Cases. Ratified 12/15/1791.

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Anyway, I do not trust to invite the citizens to make judgement in the court....

After seeing how some people in these threads don't know how to sort opinion from fact, or how not to make snap conclusions, I might have to agree. Some people are just not suited for jury duty. They don't know how to rationally analyze the evidence, and are easily swayed by their feelings and prejudices.

 

[dkf747]

After seeing how some people in these threads don't know how to sort opinion from fact, or how not to make snap conclusions, I might have to agree. Some people are just not suited for jury duty. They don't know how to rationally analyze the evidence, and are easily swayed by their feelings and prejudices.

That's the job of the Judge and attorneys. They are supposed to choose people who are not like those you mentioned.

 

[Reba]

That's the job of the Judge and attorneys. They are supposed to choose people who are not like those you mentioned.

True. (The only problem is, in some places, that might not leave even 12 eligible people--just kidding.)

I know for the last time I was sent a jury notice, they also sent me a multi-page form to fill out for jury pre-selection. Of course, the attorneys and judge and still question you in the courtroom, too. But I guess the forms help them sort people out ahead of time.

I'm telling ya, they ask about your whole life story, contacts, opinions, experiences, etc., on those forms. They even wanted to know stuff about my parents (both deceased). I didn't fill out that much information for my security background check!

 

[TFWFalcon]

Excuse me please, I know what jury system is about because I born and raised in England. They do have similar jury system as your country which I disagree to.

Next time, don't tell me that I don't know anything. I would not post if I don't know anything.

Anyway, I do not trust to invite the citizens to make judgement in the court.

I prefer to leave judge with his/her colleagues alone with their decision after collect prosecutor and lawyer. It's their prfessional job task, not our.

USA and England is different jury system. Since first 13 colonies settle and copy jury system from England then start modification better jury system. In USA "we are people" jury is citizens. Judge is determined for how long spend jail times and fines. Jury is vote most lead by either guilty or not guilty.

 

[diehardbiker]

Right, but the vote must be unamimously or they will be called hung jury. What does that means is that must have 12 voted as guilty or 12 voted as not guilty. If 12 votes of either guilty or not guilty is not met then it will be declared as hung jury; The trial will be declared as mistrial.

To better understand the way it runs, I recommended you to watch the movie called "The 12 angry men", it is DARN good movie!

USA and England is different jury system. Since first 13 colonies settle and copy jury system from England then start modification better jury system. In USA "we are people" jury is citizens. Judge is determined for how long spend jail times and fines. Jury is vote most lead by either guilty or not guilty.

 

[Reba]

... I recommended you to watch the movie called "The 12 angry men", it is DARN good movie!

I love that movie! I've seen it many times. Each actor's performance is a gem.

We had to watch that movie in our military leadership class. It showed the interaction of the various characters, and how some "lead" and some "follow".

 

[Liebling:-)))]

USA and England is different jury system. Since first 13 colonies settle and copy jury system from England then start modification better jury system. In USA "we are people" jury is citizens. Judge is determined for how long spend jail times and fines. Jury is vote most lead by either guilty or not guilty.

Accord your description, yes USA and England are almost same jury system. The citizens receive the letter from judge invite them to be juror in their court. Some citizens accept their invitation or not.

Yes, Jurors vote guilty or not guilty to help Judge´s decision.

Yes, Judge decides how long they sentence in the jail after get the help from Juror´s vote.

 

[Opal]

I received Juror letter last year and I reply back explaining about my deafness, and heard nothing ever since.

I was told they posted to 50 people to invited and interview them all and pick 12 people.

I knew they won't be interested to know me and costly to hire an Interpreter for the court hearings etc.

My sister was reluctant to accept but completed her duty to served it and find it is boring.

 

[~SG~]

I did received three jury duty letters in the past. I did replied back by writing a letters and explaining that I am Deaf. I did get responses back from them. *can't remember the words in letters*.

But I do remember on the 3rd time letter that they replied back to me that they will take me off the jury duty list.

Perhaps in future if I got another jury duty letter, I wouldn't mind to go to the court once.

 

[TFWFalcon]

Accord your description, yes USA and England are almost same jury system. The citizens receive the letter from judge invite them to be juror in their court. Some citizens accept their invitation or not.

Yes, Jurors vote guilty or not guilty to help Judge´s decision.

Yes, Judge decides how long they sentence in the jail after get the help from Juror´s vote.

Do you understand all?. Not almost same jury system. It is quite different. Quiz question: what is burgess?.

 

[Dennis S.]

A deaf mother told me that her coach abused her daughter's back neck at a soccer game. The daughter is about 12 years old. The mother caught him. She reported to the police and took her daughter to the hospital. The man was arrested....

The police showed her that the coach has a long history of abusing children and psychology problems. She has all the proof papers (reports and pictures of her bruised neck) and to show them at the court without a lawyer.

She contacted someone at an interpreter department in her area to request an interpreter for the court. She arranged that three months ago.

One day before the court, the interpreter called her that she cannot make it to the court. She and her daughter had to go there. The coach was there with his lawyer. There was a miscommunication between the judge, the mother, and her daughter. The coach grinned at her daughter. Now, her daughter is cried and depressed.

She told me that it was her second time at the court last year. I'm stunned that the coach is still free.

Huh? There's supposed to be a criminal prosecutor for these cases, that's why the mother wouldn't have a lawyer, it's not a civil proceeding. I have a hard time swallowing this, something's missing from this story.

 

[Dennis S.]

After seeing how some people in these threads don't know how to sort opinion from fact, or how not to make snap conclusions, I might have to agree. Some people are just not suited for jury duty. They don't know how to rationally analyze the evidence, and are easily swayed by their feelings and prejudices.

Those are the people that lawyers want on the jury. :-( How better can you win your case by stacking the jury with people who will believe your story due to their prejudices, not due to facts?

 

[webexplorer]

Huh? There's supposed to be a criminal prosecutor for these cases, that's why the mother wouldn't have a lawyer, it's not a civil proceeding. I have a hard time swallowing this, something's missing from this story.

Yes, I know. What a bad plan. She should have said to the interpreter to shut up and go to the court. Her interpreter must be there on time period. She arranged it three months before the court date.

I also think that she would have gone to see the interpreter instead of calling the interpreter on the TTY or video phone to make an arrangement for the court date. She said that she has all documents in evidence (police reports) as 100 percent to proof them to the juries or the judge. Now, I don't understand it. I am being to suspect that she doesn't know how to read the papers - she graduated from Clarke School for the Deaf a long time ago.