CrazyPaul
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The supervisor was like speechless.The interpreter asked her to calm down? What about the supervisor?
The supervisor was like speechless.The interpreter asked her to calm down? What about the supervisor?
Yeah, I wonder why. My son, daughter and three nieces are CODAs. I told them that an interpreter makes good money but they are not interested. Oh, well, that's their decision.
Still, the interpreter isn't supposed to "take over" the supervisor's responsibility. If the supervisor says nothing, the terp signs nothing.The supervisor was like speechless.
What about good pay (easy money)?The number one reason they gave was because they had been interpreters their entire childhood and have had enough. They want to be selfish as adults and do what they want to do, not what they had to do.
Oh well, you know when a deaf person gets angry, he/she signs too fast or big in an angry way so the interpreter didn't get all of the messages. The interpreter was not certified. She is no longer interpreting at my work since VRI was installed.Still, the interpreter isn't supposed to "take over" the supervisor's responsibility. If the supervisor says nothing, the terp signs nothing.
What about good pay (easy money)?
What about good pay (easy money)?
I use whatever expression/tone the signer/speaker uses. Otherwise, the message is incomplete....I am curious when you interpret angry messages, do you do it the same way or in a calm way?
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Nothing like making assumptions about millions of people based on a handful! Gees.
Of all the Deaf ASL users I've known there's maybe one that fits into the "over emotional" category.
That over emotional etc type of behaviour is an individual "human thing" and has nothing at all to do with someone being hearing , Hoh, deaf or Deaf.
It's too bad she's basing a career choice on 1 or 2 people, because she's just as liking to run into this in the Hearing World as the Deaf one.
I'm a bit curious why her Dad didn't correct her on this misconception of Deaf people, and in stead let her continue believing it.
Not only hearing white people, Asians are one of them, too. That reminds me of my Asian ex-wife's embarrassing story about her mother who forbad her and her deaf brothers/sister to talk to each other by signing in public before they moved here from their country because her mother thought signing was not "professional".Unfortunately the very act of "using your hands" (When I was young a lot of jokes centered around Italians and Jews being unable to talk without waving their hands in the air like ______), using facial expressions, talking loud, (It was often said Blacks and Puerto Ricans couldn't sit down and have a quiet "civilized" conversation like "white" people, they always had to "raise their voices to high heaven") is often considered to be "over emotional" by many conservative hearing white folk.
I find it interesting that when I was young the standard used was "Like white people" but now that use is politically incorrect what is said is, "They are not acting professional". But when you lay down the old standard for "White conduct" and the new standards for "Professional conduct" except for those "codes of ethics" the standards are exactly the same.
You are over looking a serious question if you are her boyfriend.
Do YOU understand what an interpreting career means to you?
Can YOU take the stress? Are you secure with yourself and your relationship?
This is from experience. My daughter is a terp.
Her current love interest and I are eating lunch at a popular restaurant with her. She taps on her blue tooth. "Hi,(name) what's up?"
BF, "My god we are eating lunch. Tell them to call back."
She squints at him. "Yes." head nod. "Yes." Frowns. "Twenty minutes." She stands up, wraps some food in a napkin, jams it into her purse.
BF, "Sit down. You can't leave. We are in the middle of lunch."
"Love you dad," she gives me a kiss and heads for the door.
BF, "Why didn't she kiss me goodbye too?"
"You pissed her off." I'm laughing, which does not help matters.
BF, "She didn't even tell us where she is going."
"Hippo law. (Yes, that is the way I pronounce it). Confidentiality. She can't."
BF, "She could be going to meet some guy in a motel right in front of me and how would I know?"
"You don't. You need another girl friend with a different kind of job. Lots of em out there."
BF, "If she marries me she won't need to work."
"If you are rich enough she would work Pro Bono." I add, "For free," in case he does not understand what "Pro Bono" means. "The situation would be the same. She loves what she does."
BF "We came in her car. How do I get home?"
"I'll take you. But first I'm going to finish my lunch. In the mean time there is a cute waitress over there. I'll bet she never gets phone calls like that." I watch the waitress and pretend I don't notice how he is glaring at me.
Unfortunately the very act of "using your hands" (When I was young a lot of jokes centered around Italians and Jews being unable to talk without waving their hands in the air like ______), using facial expressions, talking loud, (It was often said Blacks and Puerto Ricans couldn't sit down and have a quiet "civilized" conversation like "white" people, they always had to "raise their voices to high heaven") is often considered to be "over emotional" by many conservative hearing white folk.
I find it interesting that when I was young the standard used was "Like white people" but now that use is politically incorrect what is said is, "They are not acting professional". But when you lay down the old standard for "White conduct" and the new standards for "Professional conduct" except for those "codes of ethics" the standards are exactly the same.
Was Berry talking about schools?WOW, just WOW .... once again, so very glad I'm Canadian (where all of the above examples have been considered derogatory, racist and even whispering them "in jest" would thankfully get any minor instantly expelled from school, and any adult fired, for at least the last 30years ... YIKES)
I'm surprised that a minor would be instantly expelled from school for such an infraction. It seems to me that a teachable moment would be more in order, especially for a first offense.
Still, the interpreter isn't supposed to "take over" the supervisor's responsibility. If the supervisor says nothing, the terp signs nothing.
I've heard of those ideas and stereotypes, Berry.
the parallel between "professional conduct" and " 'WASP'-conduct" is something to think about-
This is another one of those "it depends" situations. If the interpreter found the Deaf person difficult to understand because of their agitation then I think it would be appropriate to say, "Can you calm down? I'm having trouble understanding you." However, it would probably not be appropriate to just straight-up tell the Deaf person to calm down.
Was Berry talking about schools?
I think I grew up in the same era as Berry, and I lived in many states of the USA, and I don't hear all that, so that attitude wasn't everywhere.
When I was a teen, there was some joking about using so much manual expression but many of my friends, neighbors and my teachers were Italians, Greeks, and Jews, so that seemed the natural way to communicate. (I'm part Portuguese.) It wasn't anything derogatory.
I never heard the "act white" comments when I was growing up, which was over 40 years ago.
I'm not saying those things didn't happen but only that they didn't happen all over the USA.
I'm surprised that a minor would be instantly expelled from school for such an infraction. It seems to me that a teachable moment would be more in order, especially for a first offense.