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Liebling:-))) said:
Ohhhh... No, GSL is not similar as German written grammar. We use GSL as short sentence than write a long sentence. I would say that GSL is similar as ASL.

Example:
GSL - I go shop 5 min.

written sentence
I will leave here for go to shopping within 5 minutes.
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Ahhh, that is what I thought, Leibling because you mentioned elsewhere that your kids do not use their voice when they communicate with you. This is not surprising because of what Jillio said above. Now my curiosity on this point is sated. Lol....and this is also cool that they truly use your first language, again because of what Jillio said...that it is almost impossible to speak aurally in one language and sign in another for they both are different.
 
Tousi said:
Yeah, her signs are kinda amateurish, Angel, altho cute. So this might give you an idea how far away she is from signing native-like ASL. Not putting her down...this is cute at this stage with the kiddies.
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amateurish?
 
Angel said:
amateurish?
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Yes, Angel but in the situation where she is right now with the kiddies, she is great in that environment. She is far from fluent in ASL is all I'm saying.
 
Tousi said:
Yes, Angel but in the situation where she is right now with the kiddies, she is great in that environment. She is far from fluent in ASL is all I'm saying.
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I am not fluent in ASL either but I wouldn't like it if someone judge me for how I signed...I'm guess I'm glad I have friends who accept me no matter how sloppy my signs are...
 
Angel said:
I am not fluent in ASL either but I wouldn't like it if someone judge me for how I signed...I'm guess I'm glad I have friends who accept me no matter how sloppy my signs are...
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That's right, Angel, the only place where I judge, and you should too, how well people sign is if they are responsible for the direct care and teaching of deaf students. I am glad you said what you said above because I was fearing that I might be understood.

I am lucky to have acquired and use sign language at all levels all the way up to ASL. I know if I met you, I would fully understand and enjoy a conversation with you and you would understand me, lol. Hope this clears that up.

Interestingly enough, I am always the last deafie to criticize the skills of interpreters because of what I said above; however, I am vigilant of their ethics.

This gal in the video, I am sure knows her place in life and if she wants to expand her skills into the world of serious interpreting for deaf people of all stripes, she will make the effort to do so. Right now, she is great where she is with the little kiddies.
 
Tousi said:
That's right, Angel, the only place where I judge, and you should too, how well people sign is if they are responsible for the direct care and teaching of deaf students. I am glad you said what you said above because I was fearing that I might be understood.

I am lucky to have acquired and use sign language at all levels all the way up to ASL. I know if I met you, I would fully understand and enjoy a conversation with you and you would understand me, lol. Hope this clears that up.

Interestingly enough, I am always the last deafie to criticize the skills of interpreters because of what I said above; however, I am vigilant of their ethics.

This gal in the video, I am sure knows her place in life and if she wants to expand her skills into the world of serious interpreting for deaf people of all stripes, she will make the effort to do so. Right now, she is great where she is with the little kiddies.
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:smiling: I agreed, Thank you Tousi :)
 
Tousi said:
That's right, Angel, the only place where I judge, and you should too, how well people sign is if they are responsible for the direct care and teaching of deaf students. I am glad you said what you said above because I was fearing that I might be understood.

I am lucky to have acquired and use sign language at all levels all the way up to ASL. I know if I met you, I would fully understand and enjoy a conversation with you and you would understand me, lol. Hope this clears that up.

Interestingly enough, I am always the last deafie to criticize the skills of interpreters because of what I said above; however, I am vigilant of their ethics.

This gal in the video, I am sure knows her place in life and if she wants to expand her skills into the world of serious interpreting for deaf people of all stripes, she will make the effort to do so. Right now, she is great where she is with the little kiddies.
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Agreed...that's why after getting my BA degree, I still wasnt comfortable enough with my signing skills to teach deaf children so I, with the encouragement of my brother, chose to go to Gallaudet for my master's in Deaf Ed cuz I needed to be someplace where I will be signing all the time. The best teachers at my work were usually the native ASL users. The kids usually improve their literacy skills after being in classes with native signers.
 
Angel said:
LMAO, I should have add "cyber" good one there Tousie...



EDIT hey sis, sorry for the off-topic here...*ducks*
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*Tousi ducking behind sis and hoping it is the right sis*
 
jillio said:
This is true, liebling. Although I do not know German Sign Language, I do know something about the structure of auditory/oral languages as compared to signed languages. ALL auditory/oral language have, as the foundation of their syntax, a linear structure because this is the way that the auditory system perceives and process information. The eye is specialized to recieve information spatially and in time orientation.....therefore all signed languages are syntactically arranged to produce information in the way that the eye best receives it. Signed langages are similar, and audiotry/ oral languages are similar.

That is why MCE's are so confusing. They take a system designed for the way the eye receives information, and put in into a structure that is meant for the ear. Very confusing to the brain!
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Yes, that´s right. That´s what social worker for the deaf who work with therapies in Spa resort where I was attended last year said the same thing as you.

I would like to share what I know here in Germany and England, we use oral when we sign all the time. We can´t follow just only sign without oral/mouth movement. I was relieved when I met ADers in real life that they use oral/mouth movement when they sign to me.

I can do with BSL (British Sign Language), GSL (German Sign Language) and also ASL as well (with ASL is not really 100%). I met ADers in real life example Cheri, Angel, RebelGirl, GalaxyAngel, etc. I watch their lips when they sign to me on their own sign language as same as they watched my lip as well when I use ASL a little and sometimes GSL. I was releived when they said that they have no problem to understand my sign because they read to understand my lip. I really don´t care what´s the form of sign we use but mainly important is we understood each other with no complication.

Anyway, I do the same with my both sons. I sign with voice to them.. .sometimes without voice... I watch their lips when they sign to me. I am surprised that they signed to me without voice at most time.

We have GSL interpreters who interpret us short sentence... I would fall :zzz: if they interpret long sentence to us which too long... short sentence and fast... We also have interpreters for interpet long sentence, too...´(it´s for many HOH who prefers it).
 
Angel said:
I am not fluent in ASL either but I wouldn't like it if someone judge me for how I signed...I'm guess I'm glad I have friends who accept me no matter how sloppy my signs are...
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I do not see anything that you have problem with ASL... You did it well... I really have no problem to understand you, don´t you? We understood each other, no matter what form of signing we use... Mainly important is we understood each other well... Right?
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Yes, that´s right. That´s what social worker for the deaf who work with therapies in Spa resort where I was attended last year said the same thing as you.

I would like to share what I know here in Germany and England, we use oral when we sign all the time. We can´t follow just only sign without oral/mouth movement. I was relieved when I met ADers in real life that they use oral/mouth movement when they sign to me.

I can do with BSL (British Sign Language), GSL (German Sign Language) and also ASL as well (with ASL is not really 100%). I met ADers in real life example Cheri, Angel, RebelGirl, GalaxyAngel, etc. I watch their lips when they sign to me on their own sign language as same as they watched my lip as well when I use ASL a little and sometimes GSL. I was releived when they said that they have no problem to understand my sign because they read to understand my lip. I really don´t care what´s the form of sign we use but mainly important is we understood each other with no complication.
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Yeppers, that is what important is that we understand each others....

Anyway, I do the same with my both sons. I sign with voice to them.. .sometimes without voice... I watch their lips when they sign to me. I am surprised that they signed to me without voice at most time.
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Yeah , same here but sometimes for fun, and sometimes my little one would talk slowly without using his voice at all, and I didn't even realized that until RR told me...:eek3:

We have GSL interpreters who interpret us short sentence... I would fall :zzz: if they interpret long sentence to us which too long... short sentence and fast... We also have interpreters for interpet long sentence, too...´(it´s for many HOH who prefers it).
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Yeah I understand what you mean there Liebling...It does make me sleepy 2 or bored when some interpreters or some Deaf people just sign for short, like for instance, abbreviating some words etc...
 
Liebling:-))) said:
I do not see anything that you have problem with ASL... You did it well... I really have no problem to understand you, don´t you? We understood each other, no matter what form of signing we use... Mainly important is we understood each other well... Right?
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Aw :Oops: Thanks sweetie, you always make me smile :D And yes you got that right
 
shel90 said:
Agreed...that's why after getting my BA degree, I still wasnt comfortable enough with my signing skills to teach deaf children so I, with the encouragement of my brother, chose to go to Gallaudet for my master's in Deaf Ed cuz I needed to be someplace where I will be signing all the time. The best teachers at my work were usually the native ASL users. The kids usually improve their literacy skills after being in classes with native signers.
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That was very ethical of you, Shel! *Bear hug*
 
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