Is Michael Moore a Hypocrite and a Liar?

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Jiro said:
but you keep bitching about jobs, the rich, financial difficulty, etc...... so that means you are the 99%.
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I had said earlier that I am not complaining. These things can happen to anybody like me in a particular condition like mine.

BUT otoh, if it was from someone who is completely 100% physically able and is bitching that they can't find a job, well, that's a whole different ballpark.

I can't work because I am constantly in pain, there's a big difference.

If it hadn't been for the rich, there would be no jobs for them AT ALL.

Yes I am struggling financially, but I got help from the One who is from Above. So He's been looking out for the both of us and I am for one am grateful.

I'm pretty sure that some of those Occupyers have already lost their jobs just for coming there. Not a cool move. If I had a job (w/o my physical problems that is), I'd keep it instead of making a stupid move by going and end up getting pink slipped for lack of work attendance.

Yiz
 
DeafBadger said:
I have to agree. I'm a bit surprised at the level of reaction to this. I don't care about Michael Moore either. I can't stand his movies, not because he is "right" or "wrong," but because I can't keep watching the onslaught of poor logic and emoting in his movies.

It's showmanship and propaganda. My position is, if you want to convince or persuade me of anything, you must do so using well-reasoned logic and without emoting all over the place. But his movies are designed to get you riled up and to bypass your thinking. As soon as I detect that, I turn off the movie.

In mind, it's not whether he is "wrong" or "right." I just don't care for how he presents his viewpoint.

As to whether he is wealthy, of course he is. He's not scraping by on $25,000 a year and living in a hovel. He's had lots of successful films and documentaries and he is a celebrity.

(Here's where I am surprised at the requests for proof. Would you ask for that level of proof about, say, an actor like Russel Crowe? Or a director like Steven Speilburg? There's no direct "proof" there, either, but no one seriously doubts they are wealthy.)

Is he a businessman? Yes. You simply cannot get where he is in society today without being one. He is a businessman who runs his own media operation. Does he like being a businessman? Probably not. But he is one.

This is not a partisan criticism. I don't like either wing of politics. They both go too far.
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THIS!

Thank you very much! :wave:

Yiz
 
Steinhauer said:
If you use a tax preparer or file electronically, tax records are no longer private. The company that prepares the forms can sell your information to anyone they want to.
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It's illegal.
 
Banjo said:
You know what? You are a hardcore communist. Everything you have said is what a communist would have said. Hey, that's what you get for labelling me a Liberal, which I'm not. You shouldn't be criticizing people for this and that when you don't contribute to the society at all. In fact, you are supported by the taxpayers.

You are the true hypocrite.
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Oh thanks for the great comedy, so you're labeling Jesus a Commie. Thanks for the million laughs, my sides is hurting!!! :laugh2:

Yep, you got it right, Jesus is a Pro Capitalist, but He also has a problem with Rich people too, for obvious reasons.

But you won't get it even if I explained why, even with pure LOGIC laid out in front of you.

Edit: Btw, I can't post scriptures because of this board's TOS, but Google this......"The Parable of The Workers in the Vineyard" and read it.

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yizuman said:
Oh thanks for the great comedy, so you're labeling Jesus a Commie. Thanks for the million laughs, my sides is hurting!!! :laugh2:

Yep, you got it right, Jesus is a Pro Capitalist, but He also has a problem with Rich people too, for obvious reasons.

But you won't get it even if I explained why, even with pure LOGIC laid out in front of you.

Yiz
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What??? You are now claiming to be Jesus???:shock: Because Banjo very clearly called you a Communist.
 
jillio said:
What??? You are now claiming to be Jesus???:shock: Because Banjo very clearly called you a Communist.
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"Blessed are those that are persecuted because of Me". Guess who said that?

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Banjo said:
Yes, that's all a communist is capable of doing. They have to make excuses for their shortcomings.

They resort to calling me names and accuse me of anything they can think of. They profess to know this and that. It's just ridiculous how they expect us to believe everything they say.

All I'm asking is for the hard proof that he is in fact, worth $50 million. Otherwise, it's just a number someone pulled out off his ass.
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Have you tried Googling? Oh, I'm sorry, did I just break your brain suggesting a smart move?

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yizuman said:
Oh thanks for the great comedy, so you're labeling Jesus a Commie. Thanks for the million laughs, my sides is hurting!!! :laugh2:

Yep, you got it right, Jesus is a Pro Capitalist, but He also has a problem with Rich people too, for obvious reasons.

But you won't get it even if I explained why, even with pure LOGIC laid out in front of you.

Edit: Btw, I can't post scriptures because of this board's TOS, but Google this......"The Parable of The Workers in the Vineyard" and read it.

Yiz
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I get it, and I still see you as the true hypocrite.
 
sallylou said:
Yiz, I have serious medical issues, too. I'm sick on methotrexate and choking down pain pills. Sound familiar? Do you have dominantly inherited hearing loss? If so, we should compare notes.
You're angry and bittter. You won't admit it because you exoress your anger in a very passive-aggressive way. As a friend, I hope that you get a break from caring for you wife and take care of your own mental health. There's a heathier way to deal with this than insulting people for their political beliefs. If you'd like to chat about you challenges, PM me. I'm a good listener and I understand what you're going through.
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PM being sent, thank you for the most insightful and understanding on your part.

Yiz
 
Steinhauer said:
So, Michael Moore decided to join OWS (and I am sooooo SHOCKED!). He babbled about how there were no goals, it isn't Obama's fault, or Congress - that these Wall Street tycoons are to blame for everyone having to work harder and longer hours yadda yadda yadda.

There were what appeared to be some crackheads all grouping up behind him - only reason I am saying this is because they appeared to be starving thin - but, that is an easy mistake to make when seeing anyone next to Michael Moore.

Michael Moore is an attention whore - he is sitting on $50 million and his only interest in OWS is to exploit it for his own personal gain.
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Exactly, you worded it alot better than I did. :thumb:

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Steinhauer said:
If you use a tax preparer or file electronically, tax records are no longer private. The company that prepares the forms can sell your information to anyone they want to.
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SNAPS! Now that I remember, thanks for the reminder. You're quite right, duh! I forgot about that part.

Oh I hear some IRS offices have already been outsourced to India.

Good grief! :roll:

Tells VRS interpreter to press 1 for English! :laugh2:

Yiz
 
jillio said:
Why? You won't be able to understand it.:giggle:

But seriously, Steinhauer, it takes a lot of ignorance to call anyone a liar with as many false statements as you make in writing around here.:laugh2:
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Do people actually read the terms and conditions before they sign anything?
 
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