Is it true that you have to have speech therapy when you have a CI?

Odd considering my CHS/Toronto classes started a long time ago which is one way to try understand my Hearing loss. Probably much better than other informal manner-re computer screens.

No regrets on the number of taken classes over the years with the actuality of going actual bilateral deaf. This fact was taken into serious consideration by Sunnybrook re: Cochlear Implant process-2007. Fortunately for me-successful.

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drphil said:
MY CHS classes: I started when I was 60 years old.
I recall some comment before on portion of this discussion- though others repeating seems to be a reoccurring phenomena.

Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto A B Harmony activated Aug/07
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Your repeating yourself is also a phenomenon. You're not exempt from your own perceptions or judgements.
 
coolgirlspyer90 said:
They heard the same stuff before, they still wouldn't listen to me. I always had to argue with my parents about not going to speech. I gave them 15 years of speech therapy.

In my freshman year the school had no speech therapist, the last speech therapist had moved to a different school district and they had to find a substitute speech therapist at the last minute, and I didn't really get that much therapy from the school at the time. But up until my sophomore year-junior year, my Mom asked the school if i can have speech therapy twice a week since I didn't have alot of therapy my freshman year due to that problem since they finally found an official speech pathologist at the end of my freshman year. I did not like that. I was hoping in my junior year that I would not have therapy twice in the week, but nope, i did. I hated it. I'm so sick of doing the same stuff over and over again, its not fun anymore and its just getting old. My parents keeps saying the "You should be lucky to be able to talk while most of your other deaf friends can't" routine and the "the school requires you to have a speech therapy since you have cochlear implants to practice." and whenever i say something wrong by accident my parents would go "See? You need speech therapy." or "this is why you're in speech" I mean AGHHHHH! It makes me want to pull my hair out sometimes when I can't get through to them.
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Then you need to take matters into your own hands, and simply refuse. You are 18. They cannot make you adhere to an IEP without your direct consent. Your parents are not repsonsible for signing off on the documents any longer. You are. It is time for you to start advocating for yourself. I know it's hard, but it is the only way that you will get what you need.
 
drphil said:
MY CHS classes: I started when I was 60 years old.
I recall some comment before on portion of this discussion- though others repeating seems to be a reoccurring phenomena.

Implanted Sunnybrook/Toronto A B Harmony activated Aug/07
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You repetitions are a phenomena...and it is a phenomena that is counter productive. STFU
 
jillio said:
Then you need to take matters into your own hands, and simply refuse. You are 18. They cannot make you adhere to an IEP without your direct consent. Your parents are not repsonsible for signing off on the documents any longer. You are. It is time for you to start advocating for yourself. I know it's hard, but it is the only way that you will get what you need.
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That's the part I'm afraid about, Because my parents WANTS me in speech therapy and I don't want to be in speech. Even if i'm 18 years old. They would say: "My house, my rules." It makes me feel like moving out of this house but I can't because of my schedule with band and school with no job. I feel like i'm stuck in a place where I can't make my own decisions as an adult and that they're treating me as if i'm still a 5 year old. Makes me want to cry sometimes.

DeafCaroline said:
I had speech therapy 2 hours a day, 7 days a week for 10 years (from age 4 till 14) then one day in grade 8, I just balked and refused to go anymore. I'd reached my limit. My mother didn't pressure me to continue because she knew it would be futile, there was nothing she could say or do to force me to continue.

I'm surprised to learn you HAVE to take speech therapy at your school, can schools really mandate this?

Also, how much more improvement can you really get after 15 years of speech therapy? I would think very little. Has your speech therapist noted that you're continuing to improve your speech or are you at this point just "maintaining"?
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I don't really know all the details with the whole CI- speech therapy thing. My parents have told me a million times before that I MUST take speech therapy due to having cochlear implants to practice. I honestly think its stupid because I had the Nucleus 24 internal implant since I was about 8 years old (I think) and a hearing aid on my right ear for about 13 1/2 years up until last September where I got my 2nd cochlear implant, activated in october.

Usually I'll have speech therapy twice a week, probably about 20-40 minutes during the class. I have had study hall every year in my high school career due to having speech therapy. The reason why I have study hall is because since I have speech therapy, i don't miss any other important stuff in my classes. But even though I have study hall, I feel like I'm missing out on the fun stuff. I remember last year a history teacher would come down to the study hall classes to find people help with a "Jury" practice to help students what it would be like to be in a trial with jury watching you. I wanted to do that but I had to say "No, I have speech therapy."

Alot of my friends are wondering why I'm even in speech therapy, They keep telling me I talk really good. If people don't know that I'm in speech therapy and sees me leaving for speech, they ask me why i'm leaving and I have to say "Oh i have speech therapy." It's embarressing at times. I feel like somebody else in the school can use more of the speech therapy than me, I feel like I already have that benefit of being able to talk and use sign, and I want to have somebody else who really needs the speech therapy use that time to really work on it than me.
 
Their house, their rules. So basically, the rules of their house you have to follow but what goes on outside of the house is your life and your business, not theirs. You're 18 now. Where I live, one can get married, vote, drink and be legally recognized as an adult with their own rights at age 18.

you tell your parents you will follow the rules pertaining to their home but they have no right to govern your life for you. That's like telling you that because you live in their house, you have to vote for their political party, you have to drink only what they drink, etc etc. They don't have such rights and that includes making you go to speech therapy.

You're in school, you're in a band, overall, you're doing more than a-ok, you're old enough to know what's best for you as far as deaf matters are concerned, and it's time for you to claim that especially now that you are an adult.
 
coolgirlspyer90 said:
That's the part I'm afraid about, Because my parents WANTS me in speech therapy and I don't want to be in speech. Even if i'm 18 years old. They would say: "My house, my rules." It makes me feel like moving out of this house but I can't because of my schedule with band and school with no job. I feel like i'm stuck in a place where I can't make my own decisions as an adult and that they're treating me as if i'm still a 5 year old. Makes me want to cry sometimes.



I don't really know all the details with the whole CI- speech therapy thing. My parents have told me a million times before that I MUST take speech therapy due to having cochlear implants to practice. I honestly think its stupid because I had the Nucleus 24 internal implant since I was about 8 years old (I think) and a hearing aid on my right ear for about 13 1/2 years up until last September where I got my 2nd cochlear implant, activated in october.

Usually I'll have speech therapy twice a week, probably about 20-40 minutes during the class. I have had study hall every year in my high school career due to having speech therapy. The reason why I have study hall is because since I have speech therapy, i don't miss any other important stuff in my classes. But even though I have study hall, I feel like I'm missing out on the fun stuff. I remember last year a history teacher would come down to the study hall classes to find people help with a "Jury" practice to help students what it would be like to be in a trial with jury watching you. I wanted to do that but I had to say "No, I have speech therapy."

Alot of my friends are wondering why I'm even in speech therapy, They keep telling me I talk really good. If people don't know that I'm in speech therapy and sees me leaving for speech, they ask me why i'm leaving and I have to say "Oh i have speech therapy." It's embarressing at times. I feel like somebody else in the school can use more of the speech therapy than me, I feel like I already have that benefit of being able to talk and use sign, and I want to have somebody else who really needs the speech therapy use that time to really work on it than me.
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You know, you and your family should really try some family counseling. Would they be open to the idea?
 
Again, coolgirl, I feel for you, and I think many parents don't understand that speech therapy at this age is really boring You most likely still have speech issues....hell virtually ALL dhh kids do. Maybe they need to be convinced by an expert. I wonder if you talked with a speech therapist who is experianced with dhh kids, and got their opinon on how well you're doing, they could then talk to your parents and say " Coolgirl has really decent speech. It's as good as its going to get. She does not need intense speech therapy"
 
DeafCaroline said:
Their house, their rules. So basically, the rules of their house you have to follow but what goes on outside of the house is your life and your business, not theirs. You're 18 now. Where I live, one can get married, vote, drink and be legally recognized as an adult with their own rights at age 18.

you tell your parents you will follow the rules pertaining to their home but they have no right to govern your life for you. That's like telling you that because you live in their house, you have to vote for their political party, you have to drink only what they drink, etc etc. They don't have such rights and that includes making you go to speech therapy.

You're in school, you're in a band, overall, you're doing more than a-ok, you're old enough to know what's best for you as far as deaf matters are concerned, and it's time for you to claim that especially now that you are an adult.
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I might have to talk to them on what you basically said, but I still think they won't listen to me. As much as i like the idea of moving out I can't really do that yet. I need to get a job first before I really do anything. But i have no time do get a job or manage having a job with my busy schedule.
 
coolgirlspyer90 said:
I might have to talk to them on what you basically said, but I still think they won't listen to me. As much as i like the idea of moving out I can't really do that yet. I need to get a job first before I really do anything. But i have no time do get a job or manage having a job with my busy schedule.
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Just keep in mind you will have a long life after you leave your parents home.

Then you can do everything your way, including rejecting anything or any contact with your parents.

But until you are educated and ready to take care of yourself, don't alienate them.

Believe me, I speak from experience.
 
last night i attempted to talk to them about not letting me go into speech therapy, it didn't go so well, they kept saying my house my rules, and that There is such a thing about having perfect speech, that I would compete with hearing people, and that I would end up working in a factory because that's where most deaf people end up working, and i was offended by that. Then i just gave up because they were yelling at me about it and i'm already grounded from "not acting as an adult", my phone and my tv was taken away from me. After that I just went up in my room and went to bed early. I don't know what else to tell them other than that they won because they're the parents. They said that my Mom and the school gave me the speech therapy because my doctors have said I needed it, But I told her that I have never heard my doctors say that before because I was never in the room talking to them about it. If other people are able to accept the way I talk now then my parents should be able to. It just makes me so irritated how much they won't listen to me. I have to go though, I have to leave for school at 7:15.
 
Aww. Just hang in there. You will be finishing your high school, and go to college soon. you are not alone. It did happen to several of my friends who have been through like yours. They are worried about you and your future. that is understandable. :hug:

But you can point out to them that some Deaf people works as lawyers, federal employees at many different depts, and varied of jobs with computer and they all are ASL users, just like me. Just educating your parents a little by little.
 
coolgirlspyer90 said:
last night i attempted to talk to them about not letting me go into speech therapy, it didn't go so well, they kept saying my house my rules, and that There is such a thing about having perfect speech, that I would compete with hearing people, and that I would end up working in a factory because that's where most deaf people end up working, and i was offended by that. Then i just gave up because they were yelling at me about it and i'm already grounded from "not acting as an adult", my phone and my tv was taken away from me. After that I just went up in my room and went to bed early. I don't know what else to tell them other than that they won because they're the parents. They said that my Mom and the school gave me the speech therapy because my doctors have said I needed it, But I told her that I have never heard my doctors say that before because I was never in the room talking to them about it. If other people are able to accept the way I talk now then my parents should be able to. It just makes me so irritated how much they won't listen to me. I have to go though, I have to leave for school at 7:15.
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Honey, listen to your parents. It is perfectly understandable that you are being rebellious, but don't forget that soon you will be flying from the roost, and one day soon you will realize how tough the world is out there and wonder how your parents knew so much. Hang in there. :hug:
 
Beowolf, but she isn't being rebellious. I was in this exact same sitution myself in high school. Her parents think that she can get perfect speech with speech therapy. They don't understand that while functionally hoh kids can speak very well, we still have deaf voices and other hoh style issues with our speech. God, my MOM STILL cannot understand that I'm not delibratly being loud or purposely sounding weird! I wonder....you're in Ohio right? Maybe you could have a meeting with jillo or someone else with lots of experiance in teaching dhh kids.
 
I was experience thepray help better improve communication to my teacher teach me oral I am oral reason issues lots of oral! I was long time 14 yrs! I remember strong on my speech on oral!
 
Had speech therapy at deaf school until i was 16 then refused to go against my parents wishes by not turning up for speech therapy then the therapist asked me why, i explained, she understood my feelings and cut the hours down to one hour a week, it helped as it was all about maintaining my speech but it didn't really improve until i went to hearing college then it improved such a deal that my parents was feeling very small! 33 now still have no issues with people misunderstanding me, just have SH/S problem but thats no big deal. I work with Autsitic teenagers they understand me fine, they have speech issues themselves which i help with. I had HA all my life until CI 3 years ago.
 
My parents is same as yours about speech and my house my rules thing too. But I got lucky get out of speech therapy only cos my speech therapist caught me cheating listening test and told me to tell my parents which I didn't and they never found out.

I had another problem trying to let my parents allow me stop wearing hearing aids. I had to take it really slowly, let them get used to idea, took me 2 years. Step by step like wearing one aid, etc.

I think you may have to be patient and take it slowly, some parents don't like to drop it just like that cos they feel like "I worked so hard for you to speak so well and is that how you repay me!". Is there any way to reduce length of speech therapy sessions? Like if you had 1 hour, reduce it to 45 minutes, then down 30 minutes, down 15 mins and eventually to nothing.
 
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