Immigrating to U.S. becomes much costlier

Reba said:
OK. I'll just pitch my tent in your backyard. :P
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Umm okay if you want, I never care about the backyard anyway lol.

Pacman said:
Yup, that's right and white population in USA will be 50% in 2050, compared to 70% in 2000.

In 2005, 45% of American children that's under 5 years old are minorities, including with latino, black, asian and other than white.
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Interesting.. :)

sr171soars said:
How soon everybody forgets and conveniently at that. They came over from somewhere else. Just because it is believed they were here first doesn't make them the originals. Nobody knows who was here first. History is all about conquerers, those that assimilate into a population and those that move into into an empty land. History is dynamic...not static and it continually changes.

As far as the Native Americans beliefs are concerned, they are just one of many cultures. Most cultures don't subscribe that the earth's is everyone's. Good luck trying to kick the Chinese out of China!
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What you just said, proves that earth was never "owned", the earth is sharing. Also I am not trying to kick Chinese out of China :roll: if they want to stay in China, good for them, I am staying in USA.

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It's really sad that alot of people are brainwashed by the "idol" of government and ignore our true nature.
 
Yes I understand what PuyoPiyo and Pacman talk about in their first post.

All what I see here is twist posts... *sigh*
 
Pacman said:
This fees can cause to result in more illegal immigrants because they can't afford to get green card then across to US illegally and USA has nowhere to make better. I means that will growing in double or triple of illegal immigrant.
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Yes I agree that this fee doesn't solve anything but cause more illegal immigrants.

Immigrants who got green card that means legal, not illegal.
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Correct

Who cares about job, many illegal immigrants have pass to got job, like at Target, BK, Wal-mart, McDonalds and low paying job.
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Interesting, it's legal in your country to employ illegal immigrants in their companies or whatever.

It's illegal here in Germany to employ illegal immigrants in their companies unless they have the residence permit from City Hall. Without residence permit, they cannot get job. They have to extend their residence permit if they want to stay in Germany longer... It's City Hall's decision either they extend their permit or not.
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Ok, complain about illegal immigrants are understandable.

Reba and sr171soars (If you own house), If your subdivision does require to cover and paid to HOA, that's protect your house's value and not going to be bad repulation, unlike numerous of apt and house (rental, own with no HOA) are filled with many Mexicans, of course, it does happen in CA. You have going to deal with them but there's some offers pride or volunteer to clean the street up, also help them to cut the grass or whatever.

Again, it's world that wouldn't give a damn about it.

Illegal immigrants aren't alone but some legal immigrants can give a bad repulation on environment.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Yes I agree that this fee doesn't solve anything but cause more illegal immigrants.



Correct



Interesting, it's legal in your country to employ illegal immigrants in their companies or whatever.

It's illegal here in Germany to employ illegal immigrants in their companies unless they have the residence permit from City Hall. Without residence permit, they cannot get job. They have to extend their residence permit if they want to stay in Germany longer... It's City Hall's decision either they extend their permit or not.
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Yup, some companies are accept that but certain of citizens are protest against on them, also bill has been denied and border isn't gain more strength to protect them, that's impossible. I would wonders if they run and across the border like blowout then USA will be in screw up, not for me. I'm sick of SOS (Save Our State) and their members are ended up in arrest for hate crime, even racist to Mexicans and some Mexicans are not happy then try to beat them down.

For me, I have alot of respect and got usually with them, that almost no problem except for conflict with languages like unable to speak english but that's their choice.

I talked to my friend that used to work with illegal immigrants and he said they do paid taxes in federal, state, city and county but they don't pay SS and medicare due absent of SS card and green card. He said it's not bad move for him.

For takeover the job, that's challenge for minimum wage job and you just better to get high paying job then you won't have deal with them. It's normal for immigrants to take the job, more full and some Americans are laid off, some citizens aren't doing well or not make right then wouldn't get job, though.
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PuyoPiyo said:
I don't mean the house, I mean the land. Anyone can pick the land whatever they want. The borderline of country is just made from man.
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if it wasn't for govt, we would ruin Earth long time ago.
 
diehardbiker said:
Not bad idea, I will join too
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Great! The more the merrier, heh?

I have a couple of multi-room tents, a screened "kitchen" tent, and even a porta-potty/shower tent. I'll bring my propane grill and deep fryer, and my solar water heating bags.

While we're at it, we'll just tap into P's electricity, cable and water. After all, the whole earth belongs to us! :P
 
Reba said:
Great! The more the merrier, heh?

I have a couple of multi-room tents, a screened "kitchen" tent, and even a porta-potty/shower tent. I'll bring my propane grill and deep fryer, and my solar water heating bags.

While we're at it, we'll just tap into P's electricity, cable and water. After all, the whole earth belongs to us! :P
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Nice tampered their ultities.. :giggle:
 
I have been listening this news for several months and I knew they would have increase the fees make it difficult for refugees to enter the US from conflict situations. In my opinion, the fees are too expensive.

PuyoPiyo said:
I don't mean the house, I mean the land. Anyone can pick the land whatever they want. The borderline of country is just made from man.
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:) Cool. We can adopt redneck ideas such as..

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Correctly, Barbaro :D

We create whatever we want for our own home. Yupp I have the hippy personality inside me hehe!
 
We are twisted way off topic here

I knew they would have increase the fees make it difficult for refugees to enter the US
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Refugees? Who, from where?
The starter of the thread was talking about Mexicans (Illegals) not refugees.

Wow Reba, you are getting into this illegal,everyone owes me something mentality - haha
While we're at it, we'll just tap into P's electricity, cable and water. After all, the whole earth belongs to us!

Nice tampered their ultities..
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PuyoPiyo said:
Exactly! The USA even was not the pure white country, it was Native American's land, and they believe that earth is everyone's home (the land).
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It's similar with Australia. The aborigines where here before the Europeans and had no concept of private property ownership. The land was considered to belong to everyone until the Europeans arrived and parcelled everything off.

There was nothing they could do. Aborigines were not even considered to be human beings until 1967. Until then, they were listed in the census under "Flowers and Fauna".

As someone who did an Economics degree I have a positive view of immigration. Immigrants increase the tax base in countries were fertility is declining and the population is aging. They also bring their savings to their host countries, which they spend, resulting in creation of jobs. They also tend to take jobs that no one wants or which cannot be filled. They spend their wages, which further increases jobs. It's not like every country has a fixed number of jobs that stays the same whatever happens.
 
ASLGAL said:
We are twisted way off topic here



Refugees? Who, from where?
The starter of the thread was talking about Mexicans (Illegals) not refugees.

Wow Reba, you are getting into this illegal,everyone owes me something mentality - haha
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No, You misunderstood, let to re-read the news below.

Pacman said:
Many fees to skyrocket by end of the month — $1,010 for a green card

Telemundo and MSNBC.com
Updated: 6:42 p.m. CT July 20, 2007

Immigrants could end up paying thousands of dollars more to enter and stay in the country after July 30, when dozens of application fees will double or even triple, sparking opposition from a broad coalition of activists and a rush by immigrants to submit their paperwork before the little-publicized changes take effect.

Altogether, 39 fees will rise an average of 66 percent, but some of the largest increases will come in charges for the most basic documents immigrants must seek. Most notably, the fee to apply for a green card, establishing legal residence in the United States, will almost triple, from $395 to $1,010.

Applying for citizenship will rise from $400 to $675. It cost $90 as recently as 1991.

Immigrating to U.S. becomes much costlier - U.S. Security - MSNBC.com
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It's for everyone, all people that who from other countries and want move to USA then same fee will charge to get green card, like from Mexico, UK, Canada, Japan, Germany, Brazil and every other countries. Mexicans aren't alone but illegal is out of way because they don't pay to get green card.

Barbaro is right about refugees from any other countries.
 
R2D2 said:
...As someone who did an Economics degree I have a positive view of immigration. Immigrants increase the tax base in countries were fertility is declining and the population is aging. They also bring their savings to their host countries, which they spend, resulting in creation of jobs. They also tend to take jobs that no one wants or which cannot be filled. They spend their wages, which further increases jobs. It's not like every country has a fixed number of jobs that stays the same whatever happens.
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Legal immigration, fine. Illegally sneaking into the country, not fine.

The illegal aliens sneaking into the USA are NOT bring savings to their host country--they are sending their earnings back to the home countries.

They are NOT taking just jobs that no one wants. They take jobs that the employers want to keep off the books. They don't increase the tax base if they work under the table but their descendants will get the benefits of our social programs.

Not regulating who comes thru the gate, or who stays beyond their visas means career criminals and terrorists can come and go as they please.
 
The article also stated:

...The increases are expected to raise an extra $1.1 billion a year for U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, or USCIS, which is required to cover its costs with the fees it collects from the hundreds of thousands of foreigners who seek residency and citizenship each year.

Simply put, “we need the money,” USCIS Director Emilio Gonzalez said. “To do nothing is to invite organizational disaster, because we are just not covering the cost of doing business.”
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Reba, You don't understand...

Illegal immigrants do paid taxes, only via federal, income, city and county, except for SS and medicare due absence of green card or SSN card.

You can look at Google, that what my friend told me, he's from LA.

Only one problem, they cannot file on tax like H&R block because require to use SSN card or green card, even they don't got tax return and only paid on paycheck.
 
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