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KristinaB said:
A transition class would help by preparing them for the real world from a deaf standpoint.

I never had anything like that in my schools and I was mainstreamed. I took classes from local agencies to learn what my parents couldn't or wouldn't.

Don't get me wrong, it's not that my parent refused, they just couldn't handle my learning style. I am a hand-on learner and my father the professor was a look, read and comprehend teacher. My mother is I could show you, but it's easier if I do it type of person.

A friend who worked for a bank taught me what I needed to know about budgeting and balancing a checkbook. A friend from church taught me all about nutrition. and things like that and the list goes on. Not all schools, whether they are, deaf or oral or what, will have anything to help prepare a student for the outside real world experiences including the deaf world needs.
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I just learned all those the hard way... :|
 
faire_jour said:
And how would a transition class that teaches you to balance a checkbook help?
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I am beginning to think you really do not understand deaf people at all. No offense but even if I did explain, I dont think you really would get it.
 
I think Faire Joure was picking up off of what I said, about the lame transitions survey paper they gave to me asking about what life skills I was capable of. The class they thought I should attend (that included learning how to balance a check book) was offered by my high school for everyone, and was NOT a transitions class. BUT life skills need to be evaluated before high school graduation. I need to ask what my severely hoh/deaf friend got before leaving high school.
 
girlingrey said:
I think Faire Joure was picking up off of what I said, about the lame transitions survey paper they gave to me asking about what life skills I was capable of. The class they thought I should attend (that included learning how to balance a check book) was offered by my high school for everyone, and was NOT a transitions class. BUT life skills need to be evaluated before high school graduation. I need to ask what my severely hoh/deaf friend got before leaving high school.
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In Alberta, we call that CALM (Career and Life Management.) Everyone in Alberta is required to take it in either grade 11 or grade 12 regardless of what school you go to and what background you are. If you don't have CALM under your belt, you can't graduate. You're right that it's not a transitional course.
 
I remember learning about writing a checkbook as well, but that was taught with the whole class because some hearing people don't know how to handle it either.

But anyway, when I began to work as a cashier, I did not know how to count down changes. one of the employee had to teach me and it was too bad he was the only one who taught me and that he was a good teacher because he had a criminal record of sexual assault.
 
faire_jour said:
And how would a transition class that teaches you to balance a checkbook help?
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Jillio said it is much more than that. One thing I like in her post is how to advocate for yourself. It is to make sure that a deaf child is all caught up. Lot of time a deaf child would miss out what a hearing child know by hearing.
 
I've found that one of the biggest problems with hearing loss isn't missing something said, but not knowing that you've missed something. When a hearing person doesn't understand something, or it's too quiet for them to quite make out, they realize that something's been said, and, using that knowledge, figure out what's said. But if your cashier at the grocery store asks if you'd like a receipt, and you don't know they asked.. You just don't know. If a tree falls in a forest, and no one's around to hear it, does it make a sound?
 
She goes to speech therapy, occupational therapy, adaptive learning, and all kinds of other special classes. She spends a total of 1 hour in regular classes. Tell me she's not missing out on what a residential or even a deaf school could provide. Yes, she does have a lot of issues, and the school is trying, but they can only do so much with the budget they have.
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Oh that's another good reason why a regualr school regular class mainstream sittuion can be a mess. If a kid needs pull out stuff it interfers with the regular classes. Even a kid who just needs speech/language therapy and time with a TOD misses out on regular mainstream stuff I still don't know how my parents managed to schdule everyhting in.....(I had speech/resource room/PT)
And with appropreate teachers and well designed curriculm a kid who is just dog paddling around in the mainstream could REALLY thrive.
Also, the type of on campus program would be a real world " trying out learning how to be indepenent" thing. A LOT of dhh kids have poor incidental learnign abilty....
Oh and as for the people who are attacking me. How am I stereotyping? Oh man....if you knew me in real life you would never accuse me of stereotyping.
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The 70's is still a very long while ago. They have revamped and improved programs.
Back in the old days they basicly gave crap services to dhh folks, and warehoused them. Heck they warehoused EVERYONE! Back then most of us were on the vocational track. Remember how back in the old days virtually ALL schools for the deaf had vocational training?
It's simply a different time. Yes, programs in the past were bad....but we can IMPROVE them, and have kids move on to better stuff, rather then being stuck on disabilty and living with their parents. I don't claim to be some genius with all the answers.
I'm simply pointing out that every kid is different, and we need to try a BUNCH of different approaches. There's no one size fits all. That's a fact. It's also a fact that our current educational philopshopy of mainstreaming mainstreaming and more mainstreaming just hasn't produced the results everyone was hoping for.
 
Oh, how I hate mainstreaming in both elementary and high school in my old days (50s and 60s). Sorry for the off topic. :roll:
 
Botte, the difference between my idea and the group home crap you went through, would be different. Most dhh (or other wise disabled folks) don't need group or halfway houses. However, those of us who have been disabled since birth may need independent living experiances to get us out of our parents house. It would be more of a road to "independant living" , and be for young adults who may have missed out on dhh education while in school, but still have a lot of potentional.
Make sense now? I KNOW you had a crappy experiance. This would be an improvement.
We do need to improve independant living rates, especially for mainstreamed to the max kids who may not have been able to access the advantages of dhh education in the mainstream.
 
shel90 said:
Oh, those too! It was always "Sorry, you cant because you are deaf" and other bullshit! Nobody would allow me to lead..even as a softball pitcher striking batters out left to right..I didnt get chosen to be the Captain because my coach felt I couldnt handle the responsiblities due to my deafness. As an insecure 17 year old, I believed him. I wish I could see him now and tell him what a fucking audist he was. Luckily, one coach from a college had faith in me and offered me a scholarship so I will be forever grateful to him. My high school coach was a dick head.
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This really sux. My loss didn't occur until adulthood but I have experienced some similar type stuff. I had customers ask there insurance companies if they could recommend someone that was hearing.....very frustrating. Luckily most adjusters I dealt with were very supportive.
 
Like you, if I had been able to go to a deaf school and have been prepared for the eventuality of my total loss, I would not feel like I lost a part of myself.
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Maybe Schools and programs for the Deaf need "adjustment" classes for kids who have progressive losses. About 20% of hoh kids will eventually go deaf.
The "adjustment" class would teach the hoh kids about ASL and deaf culture and gradually adjusting to being Deaf instead of the hoh/oral deaf way of using ALDs and stuff.
Maybe we'd have a lot more well adjusted dhh kids that way.
Also another idea might be for kids who have progressive vision issues. They could get training and blind educational interventions.
 
TXgolfer said:
This really sux. My loss didn't occur until adulthood but I have experienced some similar type stuff. I had customers ask there insurance companies if they could recommend someone that was hearing.....very frustrating. Luckily most adjusters I dealt with were very supportive.
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I hate to admit that but my hubby made a good point. He said that some tasks require being able to communicate without needing to look at each other. Alright FINE!!! :lol:
 
shel90 said:
I hate to admit that but my hubby made a good point. He said that some tasks require being able to communicate without needing to look at each other. Alright FINE!!! :lol:
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True...:lol:
 
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