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for Deaf Schools. Maybe a good idea would be to offer a post high school "independant living course" for mainstreamed dhh students. It would help them with independent living abilty, they could bone up on academic courses (a lot of the mainstreamed to the max kids may not realize that they could do better in a dhh academic sitution) etc.
What does everyone else think?
 
We already have this. It is called "transitional services". Problem is, getting the mainstream to utilize them. A deaf student should be getting transitional services when they transition from pre-school to elementary, from elementary to jr. high, from high school to job, voc training, or college. Why? Those are the periods that the students need to have a certain set of social and cognitive skills that allow them to easily move into an environment they have not encountered before.

I constantly bitch and moan about the lack of transitional services that the mainstream provides.
 
We already have this. It is called "transitional services". Problem is, getting the mainstream to utilize them. A deaf student should be getting transitional services when they transition from pre-school to elementary, from elementary to jr. high, from high school to job, voc training, or college. Why? Those are the periods that the students need to have a certain set of social and cognitive skills that allow them to easily move into an environment they have not encountered before.

I constantly bitch and moan about the lack of transitional services that the mainstream provides.

I second jilio on this.
 
i don't know, it depends on the person. i was mainstreamed and i've never took an independent living course.. i'm doing pretty well right now.
 
i don't know, it depends on the person. i was mainstreamed and i've never took an independent living course.. i'm doing pretty well right now.


I went to a public high school as a H/H individual,(I am now deaf later in life). So I cant speak for those who were born deaf.
I'm not to sure how different growing up Deaf would make a impact on adjusting different stages in life would be like.

But yeah. I do think it depends on the person, School,Upbringing,Learning capacity. Everyone is different in these aspects in life. :cheers:
 
I got three years post high school independent living studies in group homes.

I thought it sucks! I did learn some ASL from other misfits from the State school.

So it has already been done a long time, as I am 52 years old.
 
explain how does it work? I am not familiar with this

Well, I'll try to explain without getting to long and detailed. Transition services include assessment and remediation of not just academic skills that may be lacking, but social skills, cognitive processing skills, adjustment to new situations skills, etc. Hearing children learn all of this through passive observation. A deaf child in a mainstream environment can't learn all of these things incidentally, in the same way that a hearing child can. So it includes teaching those skills that they may have missed out on, but people assume they learned just because they were exposed in a hearing environment. It is the teaching not just of how to do something, but why we do it, and how others react to what we do. It is the learning of cultural norms, such as, when you enter college, your parents no longer are able to speak for you, and you must be prepared to advocate for yourself, and then teaching the most effective way to do that.
 
Well, I'll try to explain without getting to long and detailed. Transition services include assessment and remediation of not just academic skills that may be lacking, but social skills, cognitive processing skills, adjustment to new situations skills, etc. Hearing children learn all of this through passive observation. A deaf child in a mainstream environment can't learn all of these things incidentally, in the same way that a hearing child can. So it includes teaching those skills that they may have missed out on, but people assume they learned just because they were exposed in a hearing environment. It is the teaching not just of how to do something, but why we do it, and how others react to what we do. It is the learning of cultural norms, such as, when you enter college, your parents no longer are able to speak for you, and you must be prepared to advocate for yourself, and then teaching the most effective way to do that.

And it sucks and should be part of normal education. Not extra.
 
I'm currently in the throes of getting these "transitional" papers and such. The only thing on the list of activites (on which I had to mark what I was able to do independently) that I couldn't mark "independent" for was driving and writing checks- because I haven't learned either yet. And I know people a few years older than I that still don't know how to do either. Of course, they talked to me about doing a "life skills" class. I think the transitional work is a good concept, but the way it's being used is ineffective. Ready for some teen cliche? What do I think is important to my life post-high school? Learning how to drive, or, more specifically, how I'm going to hear/effectively communicate with my driving instructor (if i have one) and my driving test administrator. I also would like to know what kind of services I can receive at college- whether or not I can get a captionist, note taker, etc., what to do if I'm stuck in a lecture class with someone with an accent/facial hair, etc.
I don't know.
Annoyed. at what is perceived to be the best way to transition deaf/hh students to college.
 
for Deaf Schools. Maybe a good idea would be to offer a post high school "independant living course" for mainstreamed dhh students. It would help them with independent living abilty, they could bone up on academic courses (a lot of the mainstreamed to the max kids may not realize that they could do better in a dhh academic sitution) etc.
What does everyone else think?

Also done at Colorado.
 
Maybe MSSD should have a program like the one I've proposed. That would serve as a "national" program
Also, American School for the Deaf (could cover the New England region)
as well as a bunch for other regions.
This wouldn't be for students with cognitive issues but rather for dhh mainstreamed kids who have fallen through the cracks. I gotta say I think I would have loved a program like that.
It could also take advantage of teaching dhh kids (who don't wanna go to college) skilled trades.
It wouldn't be the type of job training that cognitively delayed students need. Like it would be a combonation of getting them taught by really good teachers of the dhh (improving their academics) and skilled job training, so they could get a job and become productive!
 
Maybe MSSD should have a program like the one I've proposed. That would serve as a "national" program
Also, American School for the Deaf (could cover the New England region)
as well as a bunch for other regions.
This wouldn't be for students with cognitive issues but rather for dhh mainstreamed kids who have fallen through the cracks. I gotta say I think I would have loved a program like that.
It could also take advantage of teaching dhh kids (who don't wanna go to college) skilled trades.
It wouldn't be the type of job training that cognitively delayed students need. Like it would be a combonation of getting them taught by really good teachers of the dhh (improving their academics) and skilled job training, so they could get a job and become productive!

They are all over the place and you just don't understand it. I am a product of it. You would not have liked it if you had actually had any need for it.

Try to take my word for it that it isn't fun and not like some English school girls boarding school story.

Although one guy did show me how to steal a battery out of a car. :roll:
 
Here in Australia, one who doesn't go to a deaf school will have to find another way to get Independent Learning instruction.

One other way they could get that is to have someone from deaf society or Deaf Children Australia come out and teach them. There are many teachers calling them for their deaf students in mainstream system to get that sort of help. Unfortunately, there's a long waiting list for this.
 
for Deaf Schools. Maybe a good idea would be to offer a post high school "independant living course" for mainstreamed dhh students. It would help them with independent living abilty, they could bone up on academic courses (a lot of the mainstreamed to the max kids may not realize that they could do better in a dhh academic sitution) etc.
What does everyone else think?

A lot of schools for the blind have programs like this or embed independent living skills in their grade school curriculum.
 
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