How To Communicate in Noisy Place

Sounds like it has to do with resonance and pitch
 
Jiro said:
This issue has been baffling me for years. I don't know how hearies communicate with each other in a noisy place with ease (I don't mean like rock concert noisy... just general noisy place like party, restaurant, stadium, etc).

Most of time, people have hard time understanding what I'm trying to say in a noisy environment. I raise my voice louder and sometimes it helps... sometimes not... sometimes it got awkward when it got to the point where I was "speaking louder" than the noise level.

I've only been trained to communicate in a nice quiet room. so how do you people do it? any tips???
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You do what hearing people do, just keep repeating yourself. Everyone has trouble hearing in noisy environments and hearing doesn't give you any great advantage - you get the noise without clarity....same problem with HAs...no easy solutions....


Laura
 
Lau2046 said:
You do what hearing people do, just keep repeating yourself. Everyone has trouble hearing in noisy environments and hearing doesn't give you any great advantage - you get the noise without clarity....same problem with HAs...no easy solutions....


Laura
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If no one understands what people are saying then why do they all keep talking?
 
Jiro said:
I'm more concerned with how to talk in a noisy environment rather than how to listen since I lip-read.

Talking loud doesn't help much.
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OH!! okay I gotcha. I'm not qualified to answer haha. I tend to talk louder than I should be in a noisy situation, I'm loud, and have a voice that carries very very well, and usually the environment isn't quite as noisy as I think it is. People always shushing me ;)

Leaning in and talking in their ear (just don't yell) works, that's what they do with each. They don't have to lip read they don't need to see your face. Can you tell how loud your voice is? SOmetimes if it's really quiet I speak to softly, because to me my voice is louder than it really is, and I'll get the hearies whatting me.
 
Jiro said:
This issue has been baffling me for years. I don't know how hearies communicate with each other in a noisy place with ease (I don't mean like rock concert noisy... just general noisy place like party, restaurant, stadium, etc).

Most of time, people have hard time understanding what I'm trying to say in a noisy environment. I raise my voice louder and sometimes it helps... sometimes not... sometimes it got awkward when it got to the point where I was "speaking louder" than the noise level.

I've only been trained to communicate in a nice quiet room. so how do you people do it? any tips???
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simple - ask them if they want to move to a quieter spot. outside tables or booth. It's easier if you are in control of where to sit.
Been doing that for years with some luck, but not always gonna work depending on the party.
 
the thing you're wondering about voice projection so that you can direct it is what those puppetmasters do with talking puppets, i think. The person skilled in directing their voice is called a ventriloquist.

Ventriloquism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I bet there are some exercises or tips.. but I never tried looking into that thing.
 
Lau2046 said:
You do what hearing people do, just keep repeating yourself. Everyone has trouble hearing in noisy environments and hearing doesn't give you any great advantage - you get the noise without clarity....same problem with HAs...no easy solutions....


Laura
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Hearing is not an issue for me. It's the talking that I'm having an issue with - a clarity. Many hearies are able to converse just fine in a noisy environment but I'm not able to do same. I'm just wondering if there is something that hearies do when talking in noisy environment because I've only been trained to communicate in a quiet environment.
 
naisho said:
the thing you're wondering about voice projection so that you can direct it is what those puppetmasters do with talking puppets, i think. The person skilled in directing their voice is called a ventriloquist.

Ventriloquism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I bet there are some exercises or tips.. but I never tried looking into that thing.
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Thats called thowing your voice. Theater people learn to project so that they come in loud and clear even to the back row. Both might be handy
 
jonnyghost said:
If no one understands what people are saying then why do they all keep talking?
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In my case, we're forced to work in groups even though the supervisors realize we don't hear each other well. They're sensitive to me but I'm suprised how little the others pick up. If you don't hear in a noisy setting, you just talk louder like they do. This is a major reason why if given a choice, people move to a quieter setting. Sometimes you can't though, i.e. a parade....
 
Jiro said:
Many hearies are able to converse just fine in a noisy environment
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That hasn't been my experience, in work or school. I think you're assuming they hear and understand. I fake understanding people pretty well myself.
 
Lau2046 said:
That hasn't been my experience, in work or school. I think you're assuming they hear and understand. I fake understanding people pretty well myself.
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No, it's really not that hard for them I have been at rock concerts and been able to talk to and understand the people with me. It really really isn't that hard for them.
 
ambrosia said:
No, it's really not that hard for them I have been at rock concerts and been able to talk to and understand the people with me. It really really isn't that hard for them.
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Strange, whenever my coworkers try and talk in loud settings, they've damn near sat on each other's laps. I've noticed the supervisor's stop talking all together until they can get a moment of silence to speak and be heard. 45 years old, hasn't looked easier from them from where I'm sitting...but then I don't attend rock concerts....attended Blondie once in Boston. I don't know about the rest of the audience but a gun could have gone off and I wouldn't have known....

I think people assume a lot...
 
Lau2046 said:
That hasn't been my experience, in work or school. I think you're assuming they hear and understand. I fake understanding people pretty well myself.
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I dunno about you but if they've been conversing for quite a while especially as a group.... I think it's a pretty safe bet that they can hear and talk just fine to talk that long.
 
Lau2046 said:
Strange, whenever my coworkers try and talk in loud settings, they've damn near sat on each other's laps. I've noticed the supervisor's stop talking all together until they can get a moment of silence to speak and be heard. 45 years old, hasn't looked easier from them from where I'm sitting...but then I don't attend rock concerts....attended Blondie once in Boston. I don't know about the rest of the audience but a gun could have gone off and I wouldn't have known....

I think people assume a lot...
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I think you assume people assume.... after all.... you did state that you fake-understand. I don't fake-understand at work. It's a liability issue... and unprofessional.
 
Lau2046 said:
That hasn't been my experience, in work or school. I think you're assuming they hear and understand. I fake understanding people pretty well myself.
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I've gone to bars and couldn't understand anything yet everyone was chatting up a storm even with loud music. I dont believe they are all faking it. And they didnt seem interested in moving to a quieter location.
 
jonnyghost said:
I've gone to bars and couldn't understand anything yet everyone was chatting up a storm even with loud music. I dont believe they are all faking it. And they didnt seem interested in moving to a quieter location.
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exactly my point. I want to know how is that possible. do hearing people change the way they talk beside talking louder?
 
Like i said i think they change the resonance and pitch like theater people so their voice carries better.
 
Some of them, they can train their ears to filter out the ambiance sounds, it's not their voice. It has something to do with processing sound that no deaf/hoh people can probably do it.
 
naisho said:
Some of them, they can train their ears to filter out the ambiance sounds, it's not their voice. It has something to do with processing sound that no deaf/hoh people can probably do it.
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He's having a problem being heard when others are not.
 
I had the ability to hear til my condition caught up with me in grade school, in my experience, here's how I see it. The reason hearies appear to understand is not due to volume but it is how "sharp" one comprehends what is said. HOH people tend to hear "blurred", so it helps to force the sound by amplification from hearing devices. They never give us perfect hearing because the damage is irreversible, we will permanently hear "blurred" speech, even with hearing devices.
 
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