How do you like the label 'Special Ed's student?

in my school, we even had LD studyhall.

They required me to take this studyhall ALL though Middle and High school, I didn't have a choice. Which mean I only allow to take two electives instead of three because of this.

but since I couldn't do foreign language, it didn't matter because other kids were required to take at least 3 years (or 4 years???) foreign language as one of their electives if they planned on going to college.

I never took foreign language and I only had study hall in one school , it was at a boarding school in Maine. Some students when home everyday as there was no public school close enough to go to . No one suggested for me to take a foreign language as an elective class in high school .
 
Students with LD are a SubGroup according ...

to the person that put this the Daily News for Newburyport, Ma.
How do feel about this???!!


It's the kids, stupid October 7, 2010
As I See It
Joe D'Amore The Daily News of Newburyport Thu Oct 07, 2010, 03:38 AM EDT


James Carville, the political strategist in Bill Clinton's 1992 campaign, coined the phrase, "It's the economy, stupid," to enforce the critical reason for leadership change in Washington.

Similarly, I am stunned by the raging debate about whether teachers and educational leaders are receiving enough credit for surging MCAS results in the state. Taylor Armeding on Oct. 2 in The Daily News outlined the folly of it.

So to borrow from Carville, I say, "It's the kids, stupid."

Today, students are growing up in what will be known as the Great Recession. The financial consequences are real. In my district, Pentucket, we've eliminated the general music program at the middle school and the business program at the high school. We are in the final phase of the French program. Elementary class sizes have increased. The district has lost classroom teachers, special education teachers, high school tech integration and district-wide instrumental music. Our budget is partially built on temporary money through the federal American Recovery and Reinvestment Act funds and the latest "award" via the Jobs Recovery Act. We've had discord among staff, administration, School Committee members and boards of selectmen. The beautiful thing about this is the kids are insulated from it all because youth enables them with coping mechanisms we adults have long lost.

The proof is evident all around us. Recently the Bagnall School in Groveland was recognized as a Governor's Commendation School. This means Bagnall is in the top 10 percent of schools in the state in combined MCAS performance and MCAS student growth, which encompasses 'some subgroups of students' who have not traditionally performed well, such as children with learning disabilities. Our high school music program has achieved regional and national recognition. Our district's aggregate hours of student volunteerism is the highest in the region. Our sports teams and athletes consistently excel. Students starting in kindergarten are immersed in a student achievement process called the Habits of Learning that compels them to progressively acquire and "demonstrate" their mastery of knowledge and skills that will enable them to succeed in the 21st century.

Another recent crowning achievement is the Page School sixth-grade class achieving the highest MCAS mathematics scores in the state. School pride runs rampant in the hallways!

Look around you and despite some isolated, well-publicized failures in Lawrence, many school systems in the Merrimack Valley are similarly improving and students are rarely mentioned as the reasons why.

Instead, we are predisposed to commend the administrators for their vision, the teachers for their skills and the parents for their patience. I won't do that here. My gratitude is to the students who through their youthful passions, energy and resiliency have performed splendidly.

The celebration of student achievement should be our focus and inspiration. Their achievement should also be the basis to redouble our efforts to support them better at School Committee meetings, through teacher professional development, in contract negotiations and at the voting booth.

They have certainly done their part to deserve this.

• • •
Joe D'Amore
 
so....no services?!?!

My opinion would be, don't pull them from a class that they need just for the services. Arrange the day, so that the services are in a time slot on their own without jeopardizing their regular coursework.
 
My opinion would be, don't pull them from a class that they need just for the services. Arrange the day, so that the services are in a time slot on their own without jeopardizing their regular coursework.

Did you read the story about the guy calling students with LD a subgroup?
What think of that?
 
I think he said they are performing well.

I know that but I am not sure I putting more label on kids with LD now they're a 'subgroup'. I bet other kids would pick on a kid for being in subgroup. I do not think I would have like being told I was in subgroup as a child , it made you sound like are inferiority.
 
I wasn't in 'special ed/resources classes/remedial classes' until college and I still can't get into College Algebra b/c I fall short on all the tests... BUT my brother had an IEP and was allowed resources in school starting in about the 5th grade when we picked up on some of his issues... HOWEVER because he was so 'ashamed' of the label "Learning Disabled" he refused to utilize some of the resources he had available to him... he got picked on because he could leave the room for testing, had someone help with taking notes, etc-- and it caused him to become depressed and withdrawn... he has a high IQ and is on the gifted end of some areas of testing but has problems b/c of his CAPD and his ADD that landed him in 'special ed'...

I worry about what it'll be like in 3-4 years when Adam starts school, being deaf, partially blind, and having other delays and issues...
 
I wasn't in 'special ed/resources classes/remedial classes' until college and I still can't get into College Algebra b/c I fall short on all the tests... BUT my brother had an IEP and was allowed resources in school starting in about the 5th grade when we picked up on some of his issues... HOWEVER because he was so 'ashamed' of the label "Learning Disabled" he refused to utilize some of the resources he had available to him... he got picked on because he could leave the room for testing, had someone help with taking notes, etc-- and it caused him to become depressed and withdrawn... he has a high IQ and is on the gifted end of some areas of testing but has problems b/c of his CAPD and his ADD that landed him in 'special ed'...

I worry about what it'll be like in 3-4 years when Adam starts school, being deaf, partially blind, and having other delays and issues...

I dunno where you're from, but Texas has a really good special education for the deaf and setting for socialization (where I went to for school and it helped me a lot...the teachers I had may not be there anymore now).
 
I dunno where you're from, but Texas has a really good special education for the deaf and setting for socialization (where I went to for school and it helped me a lot...the teachers I had may not be there anymore now).

Funny you mentioned that... we've pretty much decided that's where we're moving next summer when my lease is up... probably the Denton area (school district is smaller there) I've got lots of friends in Tx urging us to come down :)
 
Cool! That is a big move you're making, but sounds like you've got your plans all worked out! Do we have anybody here on AD that'll be close by that you can meet up with ?? Now that would be cool for you! :D
 
My opinion would be, don't pull them from a class that they need just for the services. Arrange the day, so that the services are in a time slot on their own without jeopardizing their regular coursework.

Exactly. Or do it as an extra curricular. To complain about the child's academic performance, and then allow them to be pulled away from academic time for services not related to academics is hypocritical.
 
I personally think changing the name or label doesn't change anything. Like others have said, other kids aren't stupid. If they know you're doing pullouts or that you're different from them in any way, it's enough.

Agreed. Another reason that pull outs should not be the norm. It calls attention to the fact that the child is receiving "special" services. The other students pick up on it easily, and it then creates social interaction problems for the child being pulled out. This is a reason that the majority of mainstreamed students hate pull outs.
 
I could meet Adamsmomma if I can make it to Texas next summer :)

We'd LOVE to meet up w/you Miss D :)

I think there are a couple ADers around the Dallas area... which is close enough to Denton... I should be down there for a visit in February... solo!! Adam will hang back w/my mom and lil bro for my first trip down to get stuff started...

AlleyCat it will be a big move but I'm ready for one... and it'll be good for Adam!!

I agree that changing the name of it won't help much but IDK how else we could fix it since some of the 'services' require pulling the child out as in my brothers case where he got to take tests in a quiet empty room or have them orally given to him...he stayed after for that sometimes but he had to stay in extended care anyhow bc mom worked. And yeah some kids are just CRUEL... they'll bully based on ANY difference, glasses, weight, grades, social class... I wouldn't want to be a kid again for that very reason...
 
You are so lucky. I was sent to public school from K-12th without any deaf program. But they did put me on front row, FM, write on board but that's just about all they did for me. I stopped having LD English in 9th grade but they made sure I had the easy English teacher. They didn't want me to have a modified diploma. I was the only deaf in my entire life.

Same here...about no deaf program and putting me in the front row with an FM system. :roll:
 
Agreed. Another reason that pull outs should not be the norm. It calls attention to the fact that the child is receiving "special" services. The other students pick up on it easily, and it then creates social interaction problems for the child being pulled out. This is a reason that the majority of mainstreamed students hate pull outs.

Tell me about it. I had to leave daily for an hour or half hour for speech therapy so getting up to leave and then having to open the classroom door when returning always got my stomach in knots. I hated it.
 
Tell me about it. I had to leave daily for an hour or half hour for speech therapy so getting up to leave and then having to open the classroom door when returning always got my stomach in knots. I hated it.

That is what I hear from deaf kids that are mainstreamed and have pull out sessions all the time. Some kids handle it pretty well, but some other end up reacting very negatively and become very withdrawn...which just causes more problems for self esteem and socialization.
 
Agreed. Another reason that pull outs should not be the norm. It calls attention to the fact that the child is receiving "special" services. The other students pick up on it easily, and it then creates social interaction problems for the child being pulled out. This is a reason that the majority of mainstreamed students hate pull outs.

When I was in grade school I was pulled out of class for speech lessons and made me uncomfortable as the other students would think it was not fair I was able to leave the class room. And speech lessons in school was a joke as there was other 3or 4 other kids in the class and you did not get a lot of help. I end picking up some the other kids speech defect!
 
When I was in grade school I was pulled out of class for speech lessons and made me uncomfortable as the other students would think it was not fair I was able to leave the class room. And speech lessons in school was a joke as there was other 3or 4 other kids in the class and you did not get a lot of help. I end picking up some the other kids speech defect!

Yeah. Some kids even take the attitude that a deaf student who has an interpreter is getting special favors that give them an advantage over the hearing students. The mainstream is a very uncomfortable place for a deaf student.
 
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