How could you deal with this little boy?

[Audiofuzzy]

There you go.
SO, there is possibility the kid in question has a brain disorder, or ADHD, or experienced severe trauma -psychological perhaps- in the past.
I don't think it's something that could be cured with beating his ass!

And IF the kid's behaviour is a result of poor parenting, then all the more QQ - why should this kid pay with his 'ass' being beaten for his parents mistakes?

Liebling, you say- why judge the parents? well, because as every Supernanny episode show it clearly it's the parents' inability to handle the kids that result in children's poor behaviour.
Had the parents knew what to do, they wouldn't ask for Supernanny, would they?

On the other hand it does speak good for them that they realise they have a problem, they want to change it but they don't know what to do about it so they reach for help. That is very good.

Which once again comes to this basic rule- unless the kids has certified brain problems, it's the parents errors that cause such a wild behaviour.

Fuzzy

 

[Liebling:-)))]

There you go.
SO, there is possibility the kid in question has a brain disorder, or ADHD, or experienced severe trauma -psychological perhaps- in the past.
I don't think it's something that could be cured with beating his ass!

I only know from my sons and co-worker that a boy suffer form of brain disorder due birth... I wish that I can tell anything further what I know with the help from subtitles... All what I know from them is due birth. I beleive it´s something do with delay pregnancy or stress pregnancy...

And IF the kid's behaviour is a result of poor parenting, then all the more QQ - why should this kid pay with his 'ass' being beaten for his parents mistakes?

Yes, the problem is spanking and harsh punishment what they did to a boy to ignore theraptist´s tips. A boy do something back to them what they did to them... SuperNanny confirmed that it´s form of behavioral disorder - he need to have result to find out which form of brain disorder he suffer. At first they thought it´s ADHD when he was a little boy... They work together with therapies to help him until they realized that theraptist´s tip are not working so they tried other therapy... They found out it´s behavioral disorder and recommend them to have him hospitalized and brain test etc... The parents refused to beleive that their child is sick.

Liebling, you say- why judge the parents?

Please read 47 comment in this link... Please explain me what is this? Of course very disgusting remarks...
http://media.putfile.com/lukas2

well, because as every Supernanny episode show it clearly it's the parents' inability to handle the kids that result in children's poor behaviour.
Had the parents knew what to do, they wouldn't ask for Supernanny, would they?

Order SuperNanny is parent´s last hope...

Yes we are open mind and ask Expert for the help/support how to help children instead of make disgust against parents like what 47 comments in this link because the parents ASK for the help...
They don´t mind to have TV to show everyone what and how to improve children´s behavior which it´s good and meanfuling to help other parents with children... I find it´s silly to judge parents because every parents help each other with tips how to help children... why nasty judge for?

We find its interesting... how problematic behavioral the children have etc... how improve... I find it´s great of the parents to ask expert for the help... Why should we judge them then because they ask for help? We understand every parents very good. It show that they want to help their children...

Theré´re open discussion in parental conference with no judge but share our feedback/opinion etc....

On the other hand it does speak good for them that they realise they have a problem, they want to change it but they don't know what to do about it so they reach for help. That is very good.

Exactly, that´s why I praise the parents for try to help their son in the past with theraptists, physicans to SuperNanny. Why should I judge them for?

I only judge parents who abuse the children, not SuperNanny Show, go to counsellors, theraptist, etc for the help because I know the parents are seek for the help. I praise them, not judge them.

Remember that every parents are not prefect parents.

Which once again comes to this basic rule- unless the kids has certified brain problems, it's the parents errors that cause such a wild behaviour.

Fuzzy

Answer is: Spank and harsh punishment that make him wild... They change diets and more physical execise for him... Unfortunlately it doesn´t work on him. Try without spank... parents tried everything until SuperNanny....... They are upset because SuperNanny said the same thing what the physican, theraptist etc said... They agreed finally to have him brain test... and stay at physical clinic. All what I know..

 

[Audiofuzzy]

Please read 47 comment in this link... Please explain me what is this? Of course very disgusting remarks...
http://media.putfile.com/lukas2

Extremely disgusting..
Just shows how big is IQ (intelligence) of these posters. Almost everyone wants to beat up the child. No one pauses to stop and think what could have CAUSED this type of disturbing behaviour. Really ugly and primitive mindset these posters have.


Fuzzy

 

[Casperman]

boys awful behavior

well, i cant comment on that... i have a son with Autsic other son with ADHD.... maybe the parents didnt know what to do or spoiled him bec they just dont want more problems with the son or give up with him

I didnt Give up on my boys even its hard i do complain sometimes but i had my own pateince with them... even though they give me and my family hard time but we CHALLANGE it and now they are fine so boys parents need CHALLANGE that with help , etc....
it TAKES alot of PATIENCE and dont ever give up.. also it takes 2 to TANGO! with the therpaists help..

 

[racheleggert]

I believe that child may have autism, or EBD (Emtional Behavior Disorders).. who knows?

 

[racheleggert]

Yes, it´s German SuperNanny show in Germany. The family are Germans, not American. I know them thru TV... I watch SuperNanny every Wednesday. This SuperNanny show is in Germany only, not for America... I know you also have SuperNanny show in your country but it´s for American family.

Thanks for translating from German to English so we can understand what they are talking about. I am glad that you are here, in case if anything are in German, we could use your help.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Thanks for translating from German to English so we can understand what they are talking about. I am glad that you are here, in case if anything are in German, we could use your help.

Welcome... No problem I would more than glad to help you with German languages.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I believe that child may have autism, or EBD (Emtional Behavior Disorders).. who knows?

We beleive it´s ODD/EBD and behavioral disorder, not autism but the physicans, therapies and SuperNanny believe it´s something do with form of his brain disorder how to lead his behavioral problematic... We hoping that the same boy will come back to SuperNanny show some day because we are curious to know more about him and his behavioral... how it comes from... which form of brain disorder?

We (deaf parents) together write a letter to RTL require the subtitles on SuperNanny Show because we are interesting... We are waiting for their reply. I pray that they will add subtitles for us. I feel not like to use my sons and my co-workers as interpreters.

 

[Opal]

This link shows the brat blow raspberries and spit to his Mother's face, she didn't do anything about it, but allow him to do that!!! Where is her discipline? Its her fault for allowing him to be the Boss!!

Also the German Papa Father slap his son as I thought smacking is illegal in Europe? *Scratch my head*

 

[Opal]

We (deaf parents) together write a letter to RTL require the subtitles on SuperNanny Show because we are interesting... We are waiting for their reply. I pray that they will add subtitles for us. I feel not like to use my sons and my co-workers as interpreters.

Yes I hope RTL will provided deaf people to have it in German subtitles, good for deaf people to understand better, rather than rely on children and co-workers to help you.

Good luck.

 

[VamPyroX]

Interesting thread here... I noticed that some of you forget quickly that a boy has an eldest brother. What about him? Is he behave good or what?

I´m speechless after read comments at link to judge the parents for their wrong discipline... It disgust me total. They should amshamed themselves for judge the parents after what the parents have done everything what they can to help their son and at last order SuperNanny... Order SuperNanny is their LAST hope. They are good parents - look at their eldest son´s behavor which different from youngest son. It´s nothing do with parent´s form of discpiline how to expose him like this but himself. He suffer behavioral disorders. Due birth...

Well you all didn´t see full what I saw on TV (SuperNanny) for 45 minutes. Shame that there´re no subtiles that I´m able to tell you anything what the parents said. All what I know some from my sons and my co-worker because we all love to watch on SuperNanny...

Yes the parents spanked him and also lock him in his room to calm him down. Of course they did not right... I know they are good parents and tried form of discipline on him with the tips or without tips from counsellors, etc... Unfortunlately it doesn´t work but worst. A boy kicked and damage the rooms when the parents said "No" or lock, spank etc. Everytime the parents do something then he do something back to them. They tried with gentle discipline then give in... They feel helpless... They including Grandparents have been tried counsellors, doctors, teachers, kindergarten, helpful CPS etc every what you name it because they want help their son. They received a lot of tips from Experts to not do with spank and punishment... They tried with gentle discplinie and teach their eldest son to not hit his youngest brother... but hold him hard like "bearhug"... ..., change diets, more physcial exercises... he bit brother´s neck when he want to bearhug him... same with parents, too... Nobody knows where his behavioral comes from. First they thought it´s ADHD when he was a little boy... Later then Experts found it´s behavioral disorders but he need to have his brain to be test where his behavioral comes from. I suspect his behaviorial disorder is Oppositional defiant disorder (ODD) and serious emotional disorder (SED) but the parents refused to beleive it and tried with their son themselves without the help from counsellors... Unfortunlately it goes worst and worst.

Every school can´t accept his behavioral so he was put at special school.

He spat on Granny´s face when Granny tried to ask him anything what he like to play with her... bake the cake, draw, or whatever? He answered nothing but scream and spat on her face... throw potatoes, knife... It´s same thing with her parents, too... I know straight way that it´s something wrong with him, not blame parent´s form of discipline.

Order SuperNanny is parent´s last hope but she can´t deal with him. The parents turn tears when SuperNanny suggest them to send him to brain specialist to find out what form of brain disorder he has. The reason they cried because they ignored cousellors, therapies, etc.´s suggestion in the past to send him to brain specialist and thought they know their son better than everyone.

The heartbreak parents finally agreed with SuperNanny to have him hospitalized. They need result where/which form of brain disorder he suffer due his behavorial problematic. I feel for the parents.

Strong or strict discplinie, harsh punishment, humliation, even boot camp would not help anything to make aggressive children with behavioral disorder to be behave but worst... They might use weapon kill or hurt you back some day. They need parent´s strong support and attention...

I know from my sons & co-worker that a boy stay at psychical hospital for a year... He might go home for the weekends only if his behavioral is improve... I feel sad for the parents... I can image how they feel when I am in their shoe...

You're right. We shouldn't be blaming the parents all the times. If there was a history of all kids having the same problem, then that would be questionable. However, they have another kid who is well-behaved and with no history of being this terrible. So, it's likely to be something mental or something with this kid, not the parents.

I'm proof. I used to have ADHD. It was pretty bad. When I went to church, I was the only kid to not sit with the other kids. I sat alone playing with blocks, while others paid attention to the teacher. In school, I kicked the desk a lot and was uncontrollable a lot. My parents finally put me on Ritalin. It helped. When I got older, I learned to have it under control.

 

[Jolie77]

severe disclipine? do you mean spanking? Disagree! The parents never do that to their eldest son until they did to youngest son for a first time because of his "misbehavior" - they thought spank help to wake him up... but it got him worst and worst... until they found out that their son is sick from doctor, therapies, etc. The parents rejected physician´s recommend to have him hospitalized in first place. They are upset because SuperNanny said the same thing what therapies, doctors told them about him in the past.

I am not stating that it's for spanking. What I meant is by, the child needs to get HELP big time whether he has some kind of behavioral disorders or so and on. Spanking is not the answer to every thing. It might work on a child but it might not work on another child. The disclipine itself needs to be a main and a primary focus on the parents in order to get a rein of their child. I understood that the parents (in the video) has tried everything in their power to do that but it was not any good.

You also stated that the parents rejected the physician's recommendation to have him hospitalized in the first place. While that might be at fault in the beginning but keep in mind, The parents were in a shock hearing that their son is not as perfect as they wanted him to be. They probably had a great deal of a hard time to accept the fact that their son was like that. So, It is better late than never and perhaps that will give the parents an insight as to how to figure out the situation and to improve to meet the child's need.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

This link shows the brat blow raspberries and spit to his Mother's face, she didn't do anything about it, but allow him to do that!!! Where is her discipline? Its her fault for allowing him to be the Boss!!

Please re-read my previous posts.

Please don´t label him as brat... He is a sick and suffer behaviorial disorder which mean is not normal child. He need the professional help.

Dont blame the parents because they tried everything including spanking... it got him worst and worst... They were told to not do that... They tried hard to be patience with him without do something with him... but it still is not working until SuperNanny told them.........

Also the German Papa Father slap his son as I thought smacking is illegal in Europe? *Scratch my head*

Yes spank, humliation, harsh punishment, coparation punishment etc are an illegal in Europe. It doesn´t mean that the CPS take the children away from the parents because of this. The helpful CPS around here help the parents how to improve their children´s behavior without spanking... recommendation, tips, etc. etc. etc. and give them the chance. CPS would take the children away from the parents if the parents refused to get the help... OR the children run to CPS... CPS check both sides of parents and children and solve the problem with them... If the resolvotion is not working then CPS would do something.

BUT with physical abuse is a different story... CPS would take the children STRAIGHT WAY from the abusive parents.

CPS are around where the parents have the problem with a boy... They do everything to support the parents with a problematic child... It´s okay with CPS because the parents visit different therapies, counsellor.... to SuperNanny.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I am not stating that it's for spanking. What I meant is by, the child needs to get HELP big time whether he has some kind of behavioral disorders or so and on. Spanking is not the answer to every thing. It might work on a child but it might not work on another child. The disclipine itself needs to be a main and a primary focus on the parents in order to get a rein of their child. I understood that the parents (in the video) has tried everything in their power to do that but it was not any good.

Okay, thank for explanation... I was like when you mention "severe discpline". I understand what you mean now...

Yes, that´s right the children need parental´s firm discpline. The parents use different form of discpline to see if it works or not... but it is still the same.

Depend on form of children´s behavioral how you use right discpline.

You also stated that the parents rejected the physician's recommendation to have him hospitalized in the first place. While that might be at fault in the beginning but keep in mind, The parents were in a shock hearing that their son is not as perfect as they wanted him to be. They probably had a great deal of a hard time to accept the fact that their son was like that. So, It is better late than never and perhaps that will give the parents an insight as to how to figure out the situation and to improve to meet the child's need.

I´m afraid yes, I has to agree with you. They thought they tried with their strength to help him with form of discpline and thought they know their son better than experts. Yes, they tried with every therapies but their tips are not working and reject recommenation to have him hospitalization, that´s why it got them enough and tried with SuperNanny... This is their last hope... Unfortunlately SuperNanny said the same things as Experts... They took it very badly and has to agree to have him hospitalized at last. A lot of parents refused to accept the truth about their sick child and alway thought experts are wrong...

I know what because I myself has a ADD son... It´s not easy job for us. I focus him and his behavior... Visit therapies and use their tips etc. because I want the help for my eldest son... Now my son is 12 years old and shown no ADD on him... I use gentle and firm discpline on my children because I know those discpline works on them well. It´s parent´s job to focus children´s feeling to find out and then have good talk with them...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

You're right. We shouldn't be blaming the parents all the times. If there was a history of all kids having the same problem, then that would be questionable. However, they have another kid who is well-behaved and with no history of being this terrible. So, it's likely to be something mental or something with this kid, not the parents.

I'm proof. I used to have ADHD. It was pretty bad. When I went to church, I was the only kid to not sit with the other kids. I sat alone playing with blocks, while others paid attention to the teacher. In school, I kicked the desk a lot and was uncontrollable a lot. My parents finally put me on Ritalin. It helped. When I got older, I learned to have it under control.

Interesting, your post got me curious because my eldest son has ADD. We rejected Ritalin on him but change diets and execise for him... Yes, it took long time to improve his behaviour. I know that use medication are quickly than change diets and execise etc.

I´m surprised that Ritalin work well on you. How long you take Ritalin pill?

Are you still ADHD when you don´t use Ritalin anymore?

What you as 29 years old feel now? still ADHD ?

what you feel difference after and before take Ritalin..?

I hope you don´t mind me to ask you question about ADHD because I´m interesting to know about you as an adult now...

 

[Casperman]

adhd

You're right. We shouldn't be blaming the parents all the times. If there was a history of all kids having the same problem, then that would be questionable. However, they have another kid who is well-behaved and with no history of being this terrible. So, it's likely to be something mental or something with this kid, not the parents.

I'm proof. I used to have ADHD. It was pretty bad. When I went to church, I was the only kid to not sit with the other kids. I sat alone playing with blocks, while others paid attention to the teacher. In school, I kicked the desk a lot and was uncontrollable a lot. My parents finally put me on Ritalin. It helped. When I got older, I learned to have it under control.

I do have it too was hyper all day for years till recenly maybe a year ago at age of 33 they discovered i have it... now im on sterra.. i always had bad temperances, got uncontrollable etc later found it was adhd and the progress is gettin there better by day by day know it cant solve over the nite but day by day now my 5 year old son have it whoa he does have simular things like what i had when i was growing up... now hes on adderal (sp) and seems help him