Homework from my son's

I agree how much kids are smarter than adults whenever it comes to reality. Im proud of my son that he's just being himself around anyone. :)

same for my girl.
 
To me that shows how outmoded the lesson is becoming. The new generation is growing up without old prejudices, and lessons like this just introduce it to them.

It seems counterproductive to me.

Yeah i think its better to have a fresh new generation. :)
 
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Ok...............

I agree with you, at the 5th grade level will this generate the correct dialogue in class for discussion ?

That would depend on how good the teacher is and what kind of views they have.
 
I read this book in 5th grade, it's an excerpt from the children's book "Maniac Magee" which was written I think the early '90s....racism/segregation is a theme in the story. The kid "Maniac Magee" is an orphan and ends up staying with an african american family. Mars Bars, if I remember, was the town bully...
 
Is that a close reading assignment? Is your son's school using the Common Core curriculum?
 
I read this book in 5th grade, it's an excerpt from the children's book "Maniac Magee" which was written I think the early '90s....racism/segregation is a theme in the story. The kid "Maniac Magee" is an orphan and ends up staying with an african american family. Mars Bars, if I remember, was the town bully...

Interesting. I would have to check out the book. Looks like something I would learn from.
 
My son dislikes the worded in paper stated, " white kids..... black kids... " he said, why can't they say KIDS without using the describe what kids look like.

i agree with him.

I agree too. All of my kids would have questioned the teacher on this book. Good for him to acknowledge this issue at such a young age. You should be extremely proud of him.
 
Wow! WTF!! :jaw: Is this part of the curriculum now?? In elementary schools?? Ok...

From that little excerpt, I have gotten the impression that Maniac had no 'schooling' from his elders/past environments to learn to blindly follow the norm of 'racial lines and bigotry' in his new community. I think...
 
He is in middle school, not elementary school.

Not sure when kindergarden was first generally offered by school districts. I know when I was that age (school year of 47-48) what was offered locally was private. Grades 1-8 used to be elementary which was followed by 4 years of high school in the US.
 
Isn't grade 5 elementary school?

our local schools are for elementary from Kind to grade 4. Then middle school from grade 5 to 8. High school from grade 9 to 12.

I know some towns have grade 5 which is in elementary. But not my hometown.
 
Here it's K-6th grade, middle school 7-8th grades, high school 9-12th grade. Some areas around here do have 6-8th grades as middle school in crowded districts.
 
yeah, I never knew of it til now...when I looked up about it this morning, what I found was that it's a book used as a teaching tool to discuss racism and homelessness.
 
With the CCS, kids are expected to read passages written by authors from different eras very intensively and discuss why the author used certain words, phrases, and how the era when the writings were made influenced the author's style of writing. That's called close reading..a new way of reading. No more reading just to understand the story or to get facts but kids will be required to dig much much deeper. That's why I asked if your son's school adopted the CCS.
 
It's true that some innocent kids have beautiful attitudes. Some posts here have suggested that we may damage that innocence and those attitudes by introducing literature that exposes them to racism.

I agree about the innocence: that will be lost. But the attitudes, I think if the educational process is handled well, can stay positive and even grow in a healthy way.

And I think it's important to make an effort to expose kids to these ideas in an environment where the ideas can be discussed and analyzed under the guidance of a well-adusted adult trained in educating young people.

I say this because they *will*, at some point, be exposed to these attitudes, one way or another. Racism is still out there. There are plenty of people running around with horrible, hateful, hurtful ways of thinking. And they are very willing to express their ideas. And they base their behavior on these ideas.

Some of these people are aggressive, some have powerful and sophisticated ways of interacting socially. (Note: powerful and sophisticated does not necessarily mean good or healthy.) When your kids come into contact with these kinds of people, I hope they have a solid sense of what they're dealing with, and how to stay strong in their understanding of the world, and are able to stand by their convictions.

What resources do they need in order to do this?

I think that seeing these ideas for what they are, understanding that they exist and learning something about where they come from, even how they work in the mind of a person engaging in them, these pieces of learning will serve them well as they go through life. They will give them something to draw from when faced with some of the uglier parts of life.

I do not think 5th grade is too early. I would be equally worried about starting too late. I would rather the teacher reach them and give them this part of their education before the day they need it. And I don't know when that day will come for each person.

Another thing. I've said that racism still exists. But even if it didn't. Even if today we were able to wave a wand and erradicate all racist attitudes and behavior from the world, would everything be fine? I think it wouldn't. Because people have lived under the abuses of racism for too long, and it has affected them deeply. If we are to be truly good, kind, understanding, and people of depth, we should try to understand the effects racism has on people subjected to it. It is our responsitiblity to learn what racism is, its history, and how it affects people, both the people seen as "less than" and the people doing the seeing as well. That makes us better people, when we learn and understand these things deeply. It makes us more capable of being compassionate and kind members of society.

And it's not just racism. I could say the exact same thing about any of the isms. Because of audism, I think people should learn about Deaf culture and history. Because of sexism, I think people should learn about the women's rights movement. Lots of groups have been marginalized and abused in our world. The menatlly ill, the poor, the disabled, people who are neurologically atypical, people who are oriented differently with regard to sexual preference or identity - the list goes on and on. I think they all deserve as much consideration as we're able to give. And that means equipping ourselves (and our children) with knowledge and understanding as best we can.
 
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With the CCS, kids are expected to read passages written by authors from different eras very intensively and discuss why the author used certain words, phrases, and how the era when the writings were made influenced the author's style of writing. That's called close reading..a new way of reading. No more reading just to understand the story or to get facts but kids will be required to dig much much deeper. That's why I asked if your son's school adopted the CCS.

The way he has questions in the back, that makes him to answer each of questions. It seems to me waht you just described to me about the style of writing, deeper thought and explaination. He answered each of those questions that looks good to me. i ll check after he gets it back from teacher whenever.

Its more of reading class than english. Thanks!
 
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