Help with PAPER please : AGAINST COCHLEAR IMPLANTS

I should just note quickly that I think the benefits far outweigh the risks
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that's depends on the parents' or individual's standards in order for them to call it a benefit.
 
faire_jour said:
It's not common, people with CI's have a slightly increased risk for contracting menegitis, which could be because of the CI itself, the surgery, or even because hat group is more likely to have ear malformations than the general population. It is a risk but it is not common.
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This is why you get a menigitis vaccination, 2 weeks or so before surgery(referring to the poster above you)
 
Lissa said:
This is why you get a menigitis vaccination, 2 weeks or so before surgery(referring to the poster above you)
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Yup and required by the surgeon that did mine, but was opinion if over a certain age. I was way, way over the age but still had the vaccination as a precaution. There are risks every time you get out of bed but the benefits are way ahead in my opinion. Just that one has to evaluate and not be too stupid. One persons junk is another persons treasure.
 
I didn't take the vaccination when I had my implant... but I think I was already vaccinated when I was a kid.
 
A said:
that's depends on the parents' or individual's standards in order for them to call it a benefit.
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Exactly. If we didn't value access to sound, my family would not have considered a CI.

And, as Rampratt said, we take calculated risks every time we get out of bed. Strapping a 2 year old into a car is FAR more risky than opting for CI surgery, yet many of us decide to take that risk of a car accident every day for far less of an upside than CI surgery. We take precautions to mitigate those risks (carseat, seat belt, careful driving / meningitis vax, selecting great surgeons, keeping the incision clean).

But that's not to say there aren't very valid reasons why some people and some families decide NOT to get a CI. It's a very complex and personal choice.
 
Some people do want to know the risk to determine if it is really worth the trouble or should they learn to accept the way they are.
 
I will say this is a long weekend and I am not

having fun . I think the other person is having more fun writing and making their paper more of a success .
 
A said:
Don't compare life threatening surgeries with CI, please.
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Apples and organges??? Or surgery and surgery??? There is no comparison between human organs but there is also only method of success in health...try, try and try again. No doctor or orginization would dare mis-led someone into thinking that any surgery that is expermential will be a success the very first time, they hope so but can't be sure. So my point was there needs to be some "trying" and the deaf community will have to bare with it until there is a resonable success rate.
 
john57 said:
What is a resonable success rate for you is?
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How I measure success:
success with CI = healthy, happy child + access to (pleasant) sound
(if it makes her unhealthy, unhappy, or doesn't provide a sound she enjoys hearing, it fails)

My expectations going in were that these metrics would be met, and they have been.
 
I agree... Everything we do in our daily lives comes with risk/rewards.. If you dont take the risk you will never have the chance to reap the rewards it could possibly offer. I personally see no downsides to CI not because i personally have one.. but the fact that if a person with no hearing left and chooses they would like to try to hear the world around us.. what better chance to have than with a CI. Life is what we make of it. To me whats life living if u dont take the chance to try to better yourself.. ( this doesnt pertain to CI I realise some deaffies preffer to remain so and thats perfectly fine)
 
I think the vast majority of the Deaf community accepts CI's and CI users are welcome....sorry
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Boy, how far we have come!!!!! I remember back in DeafNotes, a LOT of the posts were anti CI.
 
Bottesini said:
The OP has been a member for four and one half years.

Odd they can't even spell it let alone know how to search for negative posts about CI>

I wonder if they didn't just want to see another big fight start.
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I know all of my threads about CI's end up getting locked even though there is much valuable information contained within them. Honestly it really sucks that it happens.
 
CI meningitis risk

faire_jour said:
It's not common, people with CI's have a slightly increased risk for contracting menegitis, which could be because of the CI itself, the surgery, or even because hat group is more likely to have ear malformations than the general population. It is a risk but it is not common.
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I don't know if I would use the word "slightly" - the MMWR (Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report) that makes the vaccine recommendations sites the Reefhuis study from the New England Journal of Medicine. That study showed that CI users have a 30 TIMES greater chance of contracting s. pneumo meningitis than the general population. While the overall meningitis rate is still low, it's a big increase in risk compared with those who don't use CI's, hence the vaccination recommendations.
 
scwids said:
I don't know if I would use the word "slightly" - the MMWR (Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report) that makes the vaccine recommendations sites the Reefhuis study from the New England Journal of Medicine. That study showed that CI users have a 30 TIMES greater chance of contracting s. pneumo meningitis than the general population. While the overall meningitis rate is still low, it's a big increase in risk compared with those who don't use CI's, hence the vaccination recommendations.
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http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/349/5/435

" Postimplantation bacterial meningitis was strongly associated with the use of an implant with a positioner (odds ratio, 4.5 [95 percent confidence interval, 1.3 to 17.9], with adjustment for medical, surgical, and environmental factors)"

"The incidence of meningitis among patients who had received an implant with a positioner remained higher than the incidence among those whose implants did not have a positioner for the duration of follow-up (24 months from the time of implantation)."


That implant is no longer being used because of exactly this issue.
 
What is a positioner? Never heard of that.

I didnt have the vaccination. I did ask the surgeon about it and he said he didnt require that of CI patients but if i wanted he would order it that he'd never had a patient deveop that and he has been implanting them since they started doing the implantations at the hospital where hes at and hes the only one in that area that does it. Not exactly sure but I think the audiologist said he had been doing them for 10 to 15 years. He did give me a antibiotic though, that and darvocet for pain if needed.
 
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