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I thought the stimulus bill was first initiated by Bush?

Not to mention every conservative government (and liberals) are doing the same thing all over the world.
 
I agree with him. The way you talk stinks.

Show me, please, where I have ever referred to anyone as a peasant. Can't be done.:P

In reference to the way I talk, there are many that aren't fond of your use of the language, either. It has absolutely nothing to do with health care reform. It is nothing more than a childish ad hominem attack. :roll:
 
I thought the stimulus bill was first initiated by Bush?

Not to mention every conservative government (and liberals) are doing the same thing all over the world.

Bingo. Another part of the story that is selectively being left out.
 
Not comparing the plans......One Obama plan sounded good to people....it failed. This Obama plan sounds good to people.....see what happens


The intent of both plans was to "help working families" during a crisis

In different manners, therefore, different intent.

As to the first, it is fallicious reasoning.
 
Not comparing the plans......One Obama plan sounded good to people....it failed. This Obama plan sounds good to people.....see what happens

The intent of both plans was to "help working families" during a crisis

And you had to explain, again? Conceptually deficient are they?

Now, if its too good to be true....then it probably is. Txgolfer, is this where you're going with?
 
In different manners, therefore, different intent.

As to the first, it is fallicious reasoning.

I think most people see it.....it goes to credibility.....His plans have failed in the past. His word/promises are less credible
 
And you had to explain, again? Conceptually deficient are they?

Now, if its too good to be true....then it probably is. Txgolfer, is this where you're going with?

yup....see #230
 
Let's see. No one can make you go to a doctor to get health care. That is your choice.

However, if you do go to the doctor, you will now have insurance that will help pay the cost.

I'm back.

Ooh, mmm... Then, it might be OK to not have a healthcare and go to see a doctor because it is a choice. But you now said someone else will have a healthcare insurance because if someone else wants to go to the doctor.

Correct?
 
I think most people see it.....it goes to credibility.....His plans have failed in the past. His word/promises are less credible

Many of FDR's plans failed too...

Yet Americans celebrate him as one of the greatest presidents.
 
And you had to explain, again? Conceptually deficient are they?

Now, if its too good to be true....then it probably is. Txgolfer, is this where you're going with?

It hasn't been explained the first time yet.
 
I'm back.

Ooh, mmm... Then, it might be OK to not have a healthcare and go to see a doctor because it is a choice. But you now said someone else will have a healthcare insurance because if someone else wants to go to the doctor.

Correct?

No ... now, if you go to a doctor and DO NOT have health insurance, they throw your butt in jail.
 
I'm back.

Ooh, mmm... Then, it might be OK to not have a healthcare and go to see a doctor because it is a choice. But you now said someone else will have a healthcare insurance because if someone else wants to go to the doctor.

Correct?

Everyone will have insurance to cover medical expenses. The choice of whether to go to the doctor or not is up to the individual.
 
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