Have you ran into Jevonah Witness people?

LuciaDisturbed said:
If you have never met a JW, then you have NO idea what it is like to have them coming to your door repeatedly. It is sooooo ANNOYING.

I have had JWs ring my doorbell at 6 am in the MORNING! I was SLEEPING! They have done it several time. It PISSES me off. Now if JWs come to my door, I just slam in their face because I do not have the time and the energy to deal with their bullshit.
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oh wow 6 am ???? oh geez!! too early in the morning.. Mine around before lunch hours.
 
SxyPorkie said:
thats where you are very naive....JW had been harassed me for past 4 yrs... at first i was very nice to them i kept telling them no thanks. they keep coming back... finally i slammed on their face.. they still keep coming... this time i blew up... told them they will be sued for harassement if they keep on coming here...
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My roomate was dismayed when she heard that I had talked to JWs and now that I think about it, I think I was naive. I didn't live very long at my address and if they had kept up this work, I think i'd have eventally slamed the door on them.
 
Don´t label only JW as bad people... The people in every different religions are also bad people as well.
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We're not saying they are bad. We're just saying that they are incredibily almost bordering on harrasment.
You can believe what you want to believe, but don't go around yapping that unless you are of the ONE TRUE SECT, you're going to hell. You do not know that for sure!

I was raised a Southern Baptist and I'm fully aware that not every one is like Jerry Falwell who is more of an Evangelicalist than a Fundmentalist these days.
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What's the diffy? I know............I respect beliefs, and I even admire many people for their belief in Jesus, but SHEESH!!!!! I have to say Jerry is a nutcase........and the scary thing is there are people out there who think that Jerry's too libral! I've heard of people who think rock music.....even contemporary Christian musicans are of the devil. I've heard of a college where men and women aren't even allowed to hold hands!
 
deafdyke said:
We're not saying they are bad. We're just saying that they are incredibily almost bordering on harrasment.
You can believe what you want to believe, but don't go around yapping that unless you are of the ONE TRUE SECT, you're going to hell. You do not know that for sure!
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Exactly. That's what I've been trying to say.


deafdyke said:
What's the diffy? I know............I respect beliefs, and I even admire many people for their belief in Jesus, but SHEESH!!!!! I have to say Jerry is a nutcase........and the scary thing is there are people out there who think that Jerry's too libral! I've heard of people who think rock music.....even contemporary Christian musicans are of the devil. I've heard of a college where men and women aren't even allowed to hold hands!
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Oh yes the The Christian Reconstructionists. I'd rather have Falwell, thanks very much. Now why am I thinking of A Handmaiden's Tale? Fred Phelps is another guy I'd not rather know.

My point here is that I know not all Christains are bad or anything like that but some of their actions are inexcusable. No one should judge the Southern Baptists by the actions of a few loons like Falwell.

Likewise, if what happened to Reba was an isolated case, my response would've been very different but the other posts indicate that the JWs here in the USA have been making pests ouf of themselves and that suggests to me upper leadership in the church is at fault.

I would imagine that not even holding hands on a date would be torture. You're referring to Bob Jones University?
 
According to Beliefnet, Evangelicalism is an umberlla term that cover a wide range of Christians who are conservative in Christian theology if not always in politics. A lot of black Christians fall into this caterogry from what I've seen where I live. Some are fundmentalists. They seem to put a great deal of empathis on witnessing to others and less empathis on the fundmentals.

However, many do try to distance themselves from the fundies's anti-modernist stance. I think given recent news on Falwell, he may be doing just that. From my POV there's not that much of a difference.
 
SxyPorkie said:
thats where you are very naive....JW had been harassed me for past 4 yrs... at first i was very nice to them i kept telling them no thanks. they keep coming back... finally i slammed on their face.. they still keep coming... this time i blew up... told them they will be sued for harassement if they keep on coming here...
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Huh, You dont know me. Okay? I didn't judge you about that. I didnt use your quote that I say I think slam door is very rude. Okay? Why you had to judge me that you said " where I am very naive." I didn't tell you that what I think about you. Huh?

I understand that people have to slam the door that JW people were bothering them so much. I never meet anyone who are JW. In our area, There have tooo many christsen peope around. They always have Biggest Easter party event every year in our area. They didnt bother me.
 
LuciaDisturbed said:
If you have never met a JW, then you have NO idea what it is like to have them coming to your door repeatedly. It is sooooo ANNOYING.

I have had JWs ring my doorbell at 6 am in the MORNING! I was SLEEPING! They have done it several time. It PISSES me off. Now if JWs come to my door, I just slam in their face because I do not have the time and the energy to deal with their bullshit.
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Thank you for not judge me. You are right that I have no idea that JW would cause so annoying!

Wow 6 am is not good at all. I would be upset too.
 
Deaf Skeptic, thanks for the link......would you label the people at Patrick Henry College as being Christian Recons? I don't really think that the schools I'm thinking of would really qualify as being Christian Recon..... I'm thinking more of Bob Jones University (which seems to be more of a reconstruction of what primative Baptist beliefs used to be) Pensecola Christian College and ....OH just remembered the college that prohibits hand holding......Hyles-Anderson College! That place is SO conservative, that kids at Pensecola Christian College were making fun of it, the way that for example the Onion, SNL, Landover Baptist, Wittenberg Door etc satirize the types of Christians who actually WANT to go to places like PCC and BJU.
 
I'm afraid I know very litte about the Christian Recons other than that they intend to turn the USA into a theocray. I've never heard of Patrick Henry College. Will have to check that out. I tend to follow politcal stuff and much of my interest in Christian movement is political. I haven't been following conservative Christian movements lately because I've been more concerned with Bush's foreign policy lately.

You're right about BJU being more like primitive baptists.

I'll get back to you when I finish my research.

Speaking of Landover, I love it. :D You just know that the owner of that web site was raised Southern Basptit.
 
I am referring to the Christian Reconstructionism movement. It's pretty controversial. It calls for Christians to put their faith into action all areas of life including civil goverment. They think civil and private enforcement should be done according to Old and New Testament moral laws including the Ten Comandants. That's going to be a bit problematic considering that there are different versions of the Ten Commandants in the Old Testament.

These guys aren't very pluralist. They think they know the truth.

I first heard of them a year or so ago and I haven't followed this movment closely. I really need to know more about them.
 
Bad DeafSkeptic! Wow....still can't believe you've never heard of Patrick Henry College.....the opening of it was all over NY Times and Newsweek and the media in general. Hey.......if you want a really funny print mag that has a lot of Landover Baptist-que stuff, check out the Wittenberg Door. It is SO SO SO funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 
deafdyke said:
Deaf Skeptic, thanks for the link......would you label the people at Patrick Henry College as being Christian Recons? I don't really think that the schools I'm thinking of would really qualify as being Christian Recon..... I'm thinking more of Bob Jones University (which seems to be more of a reconstruction of what primative Baptist beliefs used to be) Pensecola Christian College and ....OH just remembered the college that prohibits hand holding......Hyles-Anderson College! That place is SO conservative, that kids at Pensecola Christian College were making fun of it, the way that for example the Onion, SNL, Landover Baptist, Wittenberg Door etc satirize the types of Christians who actually WANT to go to places like PCC and BJU.
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I used to get crap in the mail from that stupid college when I was a kid. Of course, as always, all that crap went straight into the trashcan.:D
 
deafdyke said:
Bad DeafSkeptic! Wow....still can't believe you've never heard of Patrick Henry College.....the opening of it was all over NY Times and Newsweek and the media in general. Hey.......if you want a really funny print mag that has a lot of Landover Baptist-que stuff, check out the Wittenberg Door. It is SO SO SO funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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I dunno how I missed the news in Newsweek. I *should* have noticed it. To make matter worse, I'm from VA. :P
 
Ok their seems to be a few misconceptions ob JW's I used to be one I can understand how annoying they can be .
Mabee this will help it's long and I had to re type it twice because my computer crashed and did not save it .

They do NOT pay people to join
They do proselytize
They call their preaching going out in service
They call their Church's Kingdom Hall's
Back to the Proselytizing Each Kingdom hall like a church Is responsible for a cretin area around them , they take a map of the given area and divide it up in to smaller sections and pass them out, as needed so theirs no overlap each section by their rules should be visited once every six months. If you tell them not to come back they wont for about a year to check to see if you have moved and new people have moved in, so they could possibly preach to the new tennents. They are sopsed to take each opportunity in life to show how they are and how they are better .

Now the no blood transfusions comes from Leviticus 17:12 witch says “So I say to the people of Israel, "You must not eat meat that still has blood in it. And an outsider who lives among you must not eat it either."
They concentrate "You must not eat meat that still has blood in it.” They take this to mean not to take into them any blood at all; even if it means ones own death .
They do NOT believe in hell ; they believe only 144,000 will go to heaven to help their God Jehovah rule man for the 1,000 years after Armageddon ; Armageddon is what the JW's call the Apocalypse.
The JW's do NOT believe in the immortal soul you die so does your soul with the exception of the 144,000 that go to heaven to be with god to help him rule over man for 1,000 years.
After Armageddon their belief is that their will be a paridice on earth for 1,000 year where everyone who has ever died will be resurrected and giving the choice to accept Jehovah as god , during t his time the goal is to convert as many people as possible. It's allo that time that lions and labs and all that will together.
Also every one during this time is supposedly to be in perfect heath .

JW's don't have Sunday school ; they believe that their “talks” should be understandable to everyone.
They call their sermons “talks” .

Children or atlest most of them are encouraged to draw pictures and take notes about whas being talked about by the elder [ like the Mormans they have elders] giving the talk.
Yea it's dry most of the time kids arnt men't to sit that long . But they do have at least one book geered towards young children it can be edited fairly easily for other Christian religions ; I think it's called the bible stories book.
I do know that Children are taught to have respect for their elders and all that, the tipicle “Christian” or even highly religions upbring.

They do not believe in divorce; if you get divorced before you became a JW then you can marry again; if you get divorced after words and both spouses are JW then one or both may be disfellowshiped [ disfellowshiped is what they call excommunication]
if one spouse is not JW and want to divorce the spouse because one spouse is then it is stil not ok and the JW ushaly can't marry again . a JW is only sopose to marry another JW.
Ok thats a lot I know but I study religions , and remember a lot about being one , I AM NOT a JW and would NEVER go back but I can answer a lot of questions about them .
 
Reba said:
I know it's in violation of HIPPA. Most places are very strict about that. The hospital rooms now have the patient charts under lock and key, and even legitimate visitors (family and friends) have trouble getting in. Family members get secret codes to use when then call to check on a patient. Even when I'm interpreting in a medical records building (no patients or doctors, just admin stuff), I have to sign a HIPPA confidentiality form, each time. When I'm in a patient's room, I don't even glance at the monitors that the patient is hooked up to; I don't want to see the vital sign numbers or IV information. Terps have been told that if a doctor or nurse isn't present, then the terp can't stay alone in a room with a Deaf patient. This is kind of sad because many Deaf patients are lonely, and a few extra minutes of non-medical friendly "chat" can mean a lot. I don't mean discussing someone's medical condition but whatever topic the patient wants to talk about--kids, school, weather, sports, etc.

It wasn't a nurse that contacted them. It was a non-medical staff member. That's all I can say.

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HIPPA should be abolished/removed because it is
NOT Fair that many other hearing patients
were able to have normal conversation/chat
with anyone they choose !?!?!?

I HATE this kind of "rules" That's terrible because
that way will decrease their level
of motivations/quality in Communications.
 
dang.. why do they come back every year? its so annoying.. i know i shoudl respect them but still if we said no mean NO.. sigh..
 
Kateweb said:
They do NOT pay people to join
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Maybe not every where but in at least one state they do.


they believe only 144,000 will go to heaven...
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What happens to the rest of the JWs?


The JW's do NOT believe in the immortal soul you die so does your soul with the exception of the 144,000 that go to heaven to be with god to help him rule over man for 1,000 years.
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Bible reference please.


After Armageddon their belief is that their will be a paridice on earth for 1,000 year where everyone who has ever died will be resurrected and giving the choice to accept Jehovah as god...
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Bible reference please.


... I can answer a lot of questions about them .
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Thank you. :P
 
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