Guns stolen from cars ending up in young hands

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Police say it's a growing trend, children with guns on the street in the Tampa Bay area. It turns out police believe several of those guns are stolen from unlocked cars, left behind by lawful gun owners.

"Over the years, we've noticed juveniles, kids, 14, 15, 16 years old with guns involved in violent acts out on the street,” said St. Petersburg Police spokesman Mike Puetz. "There are several places they can get them, but unlocked cars are a big part of the problem."

A search on social media will uncover videos posted by teens across the area of what appears to be young people holding guns and waving them in the air.

"We're very familiar with this type of thing. We've seen it on Facebook before,” Puetz said.

Many times, those kids are a part of neighborhood groups. Not quite gangs, but, according to Puetz, the groups can on occasion commit violent crimes in rival neighborhoods.

"Many times the investigation into these crimes goes nowhere because of the 'no snitching' mentality,” he said.

According to Puetz, auto burglaries are usually committed by teens and young adults. Numbers show 74 guns have been reported stolen from cars in St. Petersburg in the past year and a half.

Police said the vast majority of those vehicles were left unlocked.

St. Petersburg isn't alone. In 2014 the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office reported 68 gun thefts from cars. In 50 of those cases, the cars were unlocked.

In the City of Tampa, there have been 177 guns reported stolen across the board so far this year, stats that have some lawmakers calling for action.

"There must be some additional deterrent or sanction if a gun is not properly secured or for leaving a gun in an unlocked gun compartment or console of a car," State Rep. Darryl Rouson said.

http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-pinellas/guns-stolen-from-cars-ending-up-in-young-hands
 
8 guns stolen from 6 cars over Fourth of July weekend

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -
An FBI agent living in the gated Bartram Park apartment complex Arium is just one of the victims in a recent rash of unlocked car break-ins that saw eight guns stolen from six different cars.

According to police, the thefts happened over the Fourth of July weekend in the Mandarin, Bartram Park, Baymeadows and San Jose areas of town.

Melissa Bujeda with the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office said investigators have seen an increase in the number of guns stolen from unlocked cars in the last few months.


"Keep yourself from being a victim. Bring your gun in with you and lock your car doors," Bujeda said.

Among the victims was an FBI agent who reported an M4 Carbine rifle (pictured), a semi-automatic shotgun, body armor and a weapon gear bag with training equipment were stolen Saturday from his government-issued vehicle.


He said he left the vehicle locked in the Bartram Park area and that the gear was stowed away, but a police report said there were no signs of forced entry, broken glass or pry marks on the SUV, and the agent told police all of his vehicle keys were accounted for.

Other victims reported pistols were stolen from a locked car on Old Kings Road, from an unlocked SUV on Baskerville Road and from an unlocked SUV on Elizabeth Ann Court.

A loaded 9mm handgun was reported stolen from the center console of a car in the parking lot of Pure Night Club, and a loaded Glock pistol was stolen from the glove compartment of an unlocked truck at a home on Flanders Road.

JSO tweeted about the thefts, imploring residents not to leave guns in unlocked vehicles.

“People are not necessarily doing smash-and-grabs so much in vehicles, because they know if they check enough cars, they'll find some unlocked,” News4Jax crime and safety analyst Gil Smith said. “In fact, about 50 percent of cars that are stolen, or had items stolen out of cars, are unlocked.”

Smith said it's a mistake to think just hiding items inside a vehicle is enough.

“People know where to look for hidden items,” Smith said. “We've seen this several times this summer where people have items stolen from cars. You don't want to leave anything in plain view. In fact, take everything out of the car that is of value when you leave your car.”

http://www.news4jax.com/news/police-guns-stolen-from-unlocked-cars/34014132
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...iso-waterfront-shooting---arraigned/29811735/



A woman was shot right in front of her dad with a FBI gun that was stolen . :( gGn owners should held responsible if someone is killed b/c they left their gun in a unlocked car .

But that can become a slippery slope... I believe in some cases/states is is considered negligent manslaughter or accessory.... I do not like it because it can lead to where people who lock their weapons up and they still get stolen... Will they be held accountable as well?
 
Police say it's a growing trend, children with guns on the street in the Tampa Bay area. It turns out police believe several of those guns are stolen from unlocked cars, left behind by lawful gun owners.

"Over the years, we've noticed juveniles, kids, 14, 15, 16 years old with guns involved in violent acts out on the street,” said St. Petersburg Police spokesman Mike Puetz. "There are several places they can get them, but unlocked cars are a big part of the problem."

A search on social media will uncover videos posted by teens across the area of what appears to be young people holding guns and waving them in the air.

"We're very familiar with this type of thing. We've seen it on Facebook before,” Puetz said.

Many times, those kids are a part of neighborhood groups. Not quite gangs, but, according to Puetz, the groups can on occasion commit violent crimes in rival neighborhoods.

"Many times the investigation into these crimes goes nowhere because of the 'no snitching' mentality,” he said.

According to Puetz, auto burglaries are usually committed by teens and young adults. Numbers show 74 guns have been reported stolen from cars in St. Petersburg in the past year and a half.

Police said the vast majority of those vehicles were left unlocked.

St. Petersburg isn't alone. In 2014 the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office reported 68 gun thefts from cars. In 50 of those cases, the cars were unlocked.

In the City of Tampa, there have been 177 guns reported stolen across the board so far this year, stats that have some lawmakers calling for action.

"There must be some additional deterrent or sanction if a gun is not properly secured or for leaving a gun in an unlocked gun compartment or console of a car," State Rep. Darryl Rouson said.

http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-pinellas/guns-stolen-from-cars-ending-up-in-young-hands

I have a very simple solution for this simple problem. allow us the law-abiding citizens to carry guns everywhere except government places.
 
But that can become a slippery slope... I believe in some cases/states is is considered negligent manslaughter or accessory.... I do not like it because it can lead to where people who lock their weapons up and they still get stolen... Will they be held accountable as well?

No I don't think a person should be held accountable if their car was locked , I said if the car was 'left unlocked' . If a child is able to get a gun out of an unlocked car that gun owner is very irresponsible and should be held accountable for something.
 
No I don't think a person should be held accountable if their car was locked , I said if the car was 'left unlocked' . If a child is able to get a gun out of an unlocked car that gun owner is very irresponsible and should be held accountable for something.

I can see where you are coming from... personally I think people should not leave weapons unattended period and if anyone especially kids could reach it then they should not be allowed to own one... but then that is only my opinion ...
 
I can see where you are coming from... personally I think people should not leave weapons unattended period and if anyone especially kids could reach it then they should not be allowed to own one... but then that is only my opinion ...

But you have to remeber there are objects that can be use as weapons in people houses , we can't stop people from buying baseball bats ,
kitchen knife etc.
 
But you have to remeber there are objects that can be use as weapons in people houses , we can't stop people from buying baseball bats ,
kitchen knife etc.

Agreed... in truth everything can be turned into a weapon...just a matter of knowledge and/or imagination :)

But still to leave a weapon (meaning firearm) unattended is rediculous... too many people own weapons and do not have basic safety undestanding... it is sad to me...
 
right. it's illegal for a gun to be easily accessible to children. if it's so easy for a kid to steal a gun from a car.... then the gun owner should be criminally held liable for it.

breaking in and damaging a locked compartment to steal a gun.... that's a whole different story.
 
right. it's illegal for a gun to be easily accessible to children. if it's so easy for a kid to steal a gun from a car.... then the gun owner should be criminally held liable for it.

breaking in and damaging a locked compartment to steal a gun.... that's a whole different story.

But at the same go, gun owners have the right to expect their things to not get stolen... a childish thought I will admit... but I am a country girl... I grew up leaving everything unlocked and knowing it will be left alone because the childern's mothers would tie a knot in their tail if they messed up and even thought of stealing... granted our kids also grow up learning gun safety from a really young age ...
 
I want to know how they decided the majority of the cars were unlocked. No signs of forced entry is not proof, Most cars can be opened in 5 seconds with a slim Jim and some practice
 
I want to know how they decided the majority of the cars were unlocked. No signs of forced entry is not proof, Most cars can be opened in 5 seconds with a slim Jim and some practice

I guess they go from car to car seeing if the doors are locked or not .
 
But at the same go, gun owners have the right to expect their things to not get stolen... a childish thought I will admit... but I am a country girl... I grew up leaving everything unlocked and knowing it will be left alone because the childern's mothers would tie a knot in their tail if they messed up and even thought of stealing... granted our kids also grow up learning gun safety from a really young age ...

for responsible law-abiding gun owners.... they must always expect their firearms to be stolen from them so they must ensure that it is reasonably and sufficiently locked. that's why rifle and shotgun are securely locked in a police vehicle.

for example - a gun carrier is going to a place that prohibits carrying a firearm on its premise so he should place his gun inside a gun vault locked securely attached to the vehicle.

IMO - a glove compartment is not reasonably and sufficiently enough to be secured as it can be easily opened with a screwdriver. that's why people stow away any valuables from plain sight like putting away GPS. my truck got broken in because I didn't put away my cheap GPS :mad:
 
I want to know how they decided the majority of the cars were unlocked. No signs of forced entry is not proof, Most cars can be opened in 5 seconds with a slim Jim and some practice
Maybe because no alarms went off? :dunno:

Surprisingly, having read many local crime reports, and my neighborhood Crime Watch FB, I've learned that most theft victims admit that they left their cars unlocked. On my neighborhood walks, I notice garage doors left open, bicycles left on front lawns, and other signs of carelessness.
 
Maybe because no alarms went off? :dunno:

Surprisingly, having read many local crime reports, and my neighborhood Crime Watch FB, I've learned that most theft victims admit that they left their cars unlocked. On my neighborhood walks, I notice garage doors left open, bicycles left on front lawns, and other signs of carelessness.

so have and done it myself..I all ways assume if I would not do then others are of like mind sadly I wrong.
It should be mandatory that all weapons and those that conceivably used as one be against law
 
for responsible law-abiding gun owners.... they must always expect their firearms to be stolen from them so they must ensure that it is reasonably and sufficiently locked. that's why rifle and shotgun are securely locked in a police vehicle.

for example - a gun carrier is going to a place that prohibits carrying a firearm on its premise so he should place his gun inside a gun vault locked securely attached to the vehicle.

IMO - a glove compartment is not reasonably and sufficiently enough to be secured as it can be easily opened with a screwdriver. that's why people stow away any valuables from plain sight like putting away GPS. my truck got broken in because I didn't put away my cheap GPS :mad:

Sorry that happened to you... I agree it is part of being a responsible firearm owner is ensuring it is always secured...
 
Regarding the title of this thread, it happens because those gun owners are completely dumb not to lock their cars in public and/or even on their driveway at home. Oh man, I hope there will be a new law that requires all gun owners to lock their cars if they leave a gun inside somewhere. No more excuses for gun owners! They are 100% liable.

If I leave a gun in my car while shopping or parking on my driveway, I will always make sure my car is locked via the security system. I can't believe that those gun owners in FLA and maybe also in other states are fools.
 
One thing that is really bad is that a lot BB guns and toys guns are being made to look like real guns today. I saw on the news that a police thought a child had real gun and the police was ready to use his gun , the kid had BB gun that looked real . The police warned the kids about having toys guns the look real . This something parents need to think about when buying their sons toy guns .
 
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