German Homeschoolers

I don't know why people are picking on Christians when other religions pretty much do the same thing.
Lighthouse, just to clarify. I'm not against Christian homeschooling methods. I know parents who havre homeschooled their kids with a balance of secular and Christian stuff, with exposure to both worlds.
I do however think there are some major seperatist "all Christian all the time" MAJOR LEAGUE conservative Christians who totally and completely demonize the secular world as EVIL. Or they are so conservative they're almost like pre-integration Deep South Baptists.
 
no, not evil, just lost sinners who don't know they are following Satan (subconsciously... temptation, pride, etc) especially if sins draw them farther from God instead closer But they know they are no worst than the next sinner.
 
Lighthouse, just to clarify. I'm not against Christian homeschooling methods. I know parents who havre homeschooled their kids with a balance of secular and Christian stuff, with exposure to both worlds.
I do however think there are some major seperatist "all Christian all the time" MAJOR LEAGUE conservative Christians who totally and completely demonize the secular world as EVIL. Or they are so conservative they're almost like pre-integration Deep South Baptists.

still not my problem nor yours. As long as they're not breaking any laws.......... :aw:
 
yes, alot of people don't aware of this, but they have been teaching that way for a long time. In christian schools too. I can find plenty of christian schools like that. No harm done (because it is part of the religion and why we need a Savior), and Gay and Lesbian come out of it anyway.
 
Reba, I'm not demonizing evalingcal Christians.... BUT it does seem like there's a subset of evalingcal christians who think that anything even remotely secular is teh evil.
Putting people into sets or subsets is stereotyping. "Anything even remotely secular" is a very general statement that explains nothing.

Like just a MENTION that there are families out there who are gay or lesbian, they're on the defensive yapping that their kids are being "corrupted" by the secular system.
Interesting choice of words. People "mention" there are homosexual families but Christians "yap". Slanted?

The textbooks don't go into details or anything. It's just a MENTION that there are men and women who are in not exactly 1950's realtionships.
Is that exactly how it's presented in textbooks? What is the context? What exactly is a 1950's relationship?

It's like a textbook mentioning that there are interracial or interreligious couples Or divorced people (three types of relationships which quite a few people have interpreted the Bible as not supporting!) Why don't evalingcal Christians who send their kids to public schools get upset about interracial/interreligious or divorced couples being portrayed in textbooks/diversity things?
Without actually reading the text to which you refer, I can hardly comment on it.

Neither you nor I know what each evangelical Christian parent might "get upset about" in each public school situation. It would be pure speculation. If you want to discuss specific cases, that's different.

The Christians whom I know, and my pastors, are not against interracial marriages. The Bible, and therefor the preachers, are against couples being unequally yoked in marriage. That means, a born-again Christian shouldn't marry a non-Christian. The Bible, and Christians, hate divorce but don't hate divorced people. I have no idea how these things are being portrayed in the text books that you mention.


And yet, those are the very same people who think that Intelligent Design and other Christian things should be pushed in public schools.
There you go with prejudicial word choice again. If Christians want Creation included in the curriculum, you call that being "pushed." If secular people want homosexual life style included in a curriculum, you call that "mentioning."

As for the mom being "stuck" being the homeschool teacher, think about it. It reinforces traditional gender roles (a women's place is in the home A mom's life should be ALL about her kids and only her kids) AND it can add major stress to a mom's life. (being a teacher can be very stressful and exhausting. I know this from my friends who are teachers)
This may be hard for you to believe but there are moms who feel that motherhood is a blessing and privilege, and don't consider themselves being "stuck" in that roll. Many moms enjoy teaching their children at home, and don't consider it a drudgery.

Also, I don't know where you get the idea that "a women's place is in the home A mom's life should be ALL about her kids and only her kids." That's not the biblical standard.

You can't compare your teacher friends with moms. Teachers are in a totally different situation from home school moms. Classroom teachers have many children from various backgrounds with whom they must deal in a tight daily schedule with very little room for flexibility. They also deal with restrictive curricula, non-supportive administration, and interfering government regulations. That's the source of their stress, not the act of teaching by itself.

Moms are teaching their own children that they've known since birth. They can teach them what they believe and not worry about not being pc, or offending them. They don't have to answer to an adversarial chain of command. They have flexibility within their schedule.


As for the kids who were very sheltered....some examples I remember off the top of my head are a girl who was saving her first KISS until marriage (first KISS! Until MARRIAGE?!?!?)
What's wrong with that? Has the world twisted purity into something "weird"?

Kids whose parents punished them for saying "gee" or who weren't even allowed to listen to contemporary Christian rock music.
What kind of punishment?

Do you know that euphemisms such as "gee/geez" (Jesus), "gosh" (God), "darn" (damn), and "heck" (hell) are profanities? Why shouldn't parents correct their children for using profane language?

Why should Christian children listen to so-called contemporary "Christian" rock music? If it's rock music, it isn't Christian but of the world. The parents are right not to allow it.
 
Lighthouse, just to clarify. I'm not against Christian homeschooling methods. I know parents who havre homeschooled their kids with a balance of secular and Christian stuff, with exposure to both worlds.
I do however think there are some major seperatist "all Christian all the time" MAJOR LEAGUE conservative Christians who totally and completely demonize the secular world as EVIL. Or they are so conservative they're almost like pre-integration Deep South Baptists.

Not all conservatives are Christians, there's secularism conservatives too.

Reba and Jiro made valid point.
 
another thing

In the homeschool situation there is still a curriculum - it is not just a free for all. It is just another way not everyone has all the things it takes to pull it off.
Often there is a time when kids go back to public school as well. It is not a totally one way or another way situation. While I am personally glad that my father was not a religious fellow who figured I would have lots of time to sort those things out for myself with a mature mind as an adult, many believe in fully indoctrinating their children from day one. Is this wrong? Kind of hard to say that for others isn't it? While the freethinking culture has been around for a long time it has not been anything but a tiny minority for most of that time.
 
It is true that some family do not believe in interracial marriage. Mainly because they believe God designed Nations and Race. They believe people should stay within their culture/race/nation. But after talking to them, they don't believe in superior and inferior at all. That one race is just as good and beautiful as the other because God designed them all. I don't agree with their view avoiding interracial marriage especially if a baby need a father. But their beliefs don't bother me as long as they don't promote hate, racism, violence, etc. My family was one of the people who fought legal rights to marry a white man.

Now I did know someone from my own public school who believed that Ham from the bible means black and Cain was marked with a certain race... I tried to convince him that it is wrong (proven all the bible points) but no use. Don't worry there are always christians who straighten out other christians which is why fellowship is important.

<<or interreligious couples Or divorced people... >> Interreligious people? believers should not knowingly marry a nonbelievers because God says it is unwise to do so. It would cause alot of marital issues especially how to raise children concerning religion.

As far as divorced>> well alot of people have different opinion about this. But like Reba, Majority of people I know don't like divorce but are fine with people who are divorced and remarried. But they feel divorce should be avoided at all cost unless it is absolutely neccessary.

Basically, what you want is for these homeschoolers NOT to teach from biblical manners and that's secular teaching.
 
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