Gas Prices to JUMP!

Codger....thanks for putting the table of tax credits for hybrids. However I think the IRS excluded the new Chevy/GMC Silverado/Sierra Hybrids in the table.

http://www.chevrolet.com/silverado/hybrid/

Are private businesses (construction, plumbers, etc) eligible for tax credits if they happen to place a hybrid in service? Then perhaps the IRS should approve the GM hybrids for the credits....Dont you think so?
 
sablescort said:
Codger....thanks for putting the table of tax credits for hybrids. However I think the IRS excluded the new Chevy/GMC Silverado/Sierra Hybrids in the table.
Well, GM states that it is only available in six states and in limited quantities, but the site I posted said other vehicles may be added to the approved list. $500 back on a $30,000 truck will not make me rush right out and buy one though!

sablescort said:
Are private businesses (construction, plumbers, etc) eligible for tax credits if they happen to place a hybrid in service? Then perhaps the IRS should approve the GM hybrids for the credits....Dont you think so?
"Government agencies, tax exempt organizations, and foreign entities are not eligible."

Looks like it applies to commercial use to me. I think those incentives are a good idea. I am looking forward to the introduction of hydrogen cell technology, then "hydrogen reactors". That is where we need to be!
 
I think people who buy cars that get at least 30MPG HWY 20MPG City or Electro/ Hybrid car should get a tax break. So that way the less trips to gas stations the better chances gas comming down.
 
Here is another factor in rising oil prices I have not seen mentioned here. Worldwide oil is priced in U.S. dollars (surprised?) and the value of the dollar has fallen in the last twelve months. Thus a buck will not buy as much oil as it used to.


Then there is the China factor. I won't post it, you'll have to click and read.

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/BUSINESS/05/24/china.oil.demand/
 
ravensteve1961 said:
SEE I KNEW IT!!! SUVS are the blame.. Why isnt Congress introducing 30%TAX on all vechiles weigh over 7000LBS?
Our SUV weighs 4,598 lbs. so I guess we won't need to pay that tax.
 
Reba said:
Our SUV weighs 4,598 lbs. so I guess we won't need to pay that tax.
A lesson in weights and measures too? Well, 7,000 pounds is about three TONS Steve. Commercial vehicle range there. :whistle:
 
Codger said:
A lesson in weights and measures too? Well, 7,000 pounds is about three TONS Steve. Commercial vehicle range there. :whistle:
Well goverment needs to go back to small car buying days again.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Well goverment needs to go back to small car buying days again.

Well, I would suggest you to buy German car with save gasoline used.
 
A little off topic.

If they produced biodiesel at a mass production, last time in 2003 was 25 million gallons produced on biodiesel, it would be probably at least 50 million gallons as of now, it's getting popular. Maybe if it gets more in popular demand and prices on it might go down? Biodiesel is in $3.50 to $4.50 a gallon range mostly. It's FAR more clean burning than the fossil fuel based diesel. It runs on vegetable oil that was processed to run on diesel engines with little or no modification. Many farm equipment use biodiesel, and it's popping up on mass transit bus services, too. They can get it at a wholesale price which is only a few cents more than regular diesel.
 
Yep, it is crazy!! This morning I just filled the SUV up and it was $2.09 for 14 gallons and I just paid $27 dollars for full tank.. :squint:
 
OUCH! 27 bucks for full tank at 2.09 that really stings, doesnt it?

When I last reported on Knoxville's gas prices last Tuesday, it was 1.89. Now a gallon of 87 regular gas at the Pilot is going for 1.95 with diesel way off the scale!
 
Normally, I filled the SUV full tank in either $1.81 - $1.90, I would pay $23.00 - $25.00 for full tank.. Now it is up to another 3-4 more dollars up. Argh!!!
 
The myth about 3bucks per gallon is coming true!

Gas prices rising to record highs - ... - - and summer's not even here yet - Market speculation, demand are factors in higher prices
2005-04-07
by Jeff Switzer
Journal Reporter

Gasoline prices today are expected to break the Puget Sound area's record high, rising past $2.35 a gallon a full two months before prices really peak with the start of the summer driving season.

``We still think we have several weeks of potential price increases before we see the price start to even out,'' AAA spokeswoman Janet Ray said.

Average gas prices in Washington state have risen 46 cents a gallon since the beginning of the year, while the nationwide average has risen 43 cents a gallon, said Rayola Dougher, American Petroleum Institute manager for energy market issues.

Speculation on Wall Street is in part to blame. The steep rise in gas prices is driven by the price of crude oil, which traded for $55.85 per barrel on Wednesday, and set a new record of $57.27 a barrel Friday.

The other factor in high prices: Drivers are buying gasoline at a growing rate despite the price.

``Demand is staying strong even though we have people telling us they are changing their habits,'' Ray said. ``Overall, there's not enough change in habits to decrease the amount of demand.''

A summer energy forecast is expected today from the Department of Energy.

Regular unleaded gasoline costs -- on average -- more than $2.35 per gallon in the Bellevue-Seattle-Everett area, according to AAA, which surveys and compiles gas prices at 60,000 stations around the country.

Statewide, gas prices in Washington broke through the record statewide average on Tuesday, AAA said.

``We're seeing these higher crude oil prices because the difference between supply and demand on the world market is very thin and has hardly any cushion at all,'' Dougher said. ``The only producer who can step up and turn on the spigot at the well is Saudi Arabia.''

The alternative -- bringing on more production -- ``takes years,'' she said.

Compared to other costs, gasoline is still less expensive now than it has been in the past. According to the energy department, the price would be about $3 a gallon today if the high prices of the early 1980s rose with the rate of inflation.

Jeff Switzer can be reached at jeff.switzer@kingcountyjournal.com or 425-453-4234.



GAS PRICES
All-time local record: $2.35, May 31, 2004, in Bellevue-Seattle-Everett area.
Current ranking: 5th highest gas prices in the nation.
Two-year low: $1.50 in the Bellevue-Everett-Seattle area on Dec. 30, 2003.

California: $2.51
Hawaii: $2.46
Nevada: $2.42
Oregon: $2.33
Washington: $2.319 (previous record: $2.309 on May 31, 2004.)
Michigan: $2.31
Wisconsin: $2.30

Source: AAA, http://www.fuelgaugereport.com

A nearby gas station is selling 2.99 for 91 (type of gas) and 2.75 for 81 (the "low" of all gas types).... :ekk2:
And i just found that the station now increased to 2.79!
I guess we will get 3bucks per gallon soon... or at least in San Diego FIRST.
:pissed:

the cheapest gas station in San Diego County is 2.35 in Rancho Penasquitos (the expensive community for senior citizens)

On my way to my husband's family home, I am going to stop by this gas station: $2.37 at Exxon on 2462 POWAY Ave...
San Diegans, check for the cheap gas station near your home here.

Vent your recurrent fumes about the gas prices.
 
Gasoline Economic Ticker:
National Average for regular gasoline
one year ago: $1.75;
one month ago: $1.95!

American's are paying almost
50 cents more per gallon this year than last.
That's almost $200 MILLION DOLLARS A DAY MORE THAN LAST YEAR -
For what??? - no new jobs, no new products or services!
At this rate, we will be taking $5.8 Billion Dollars out
of our economy during the month of April alone!

I just copied this from the Gasoline ticker announcement...
 
This really pisses me off because the gas price is so gawddamn high that I need 10% cost of living raise to afford everything plus a little savings on the side. Grrr! :pissed:
 
Y said:
Gasoline Economic Ticker:
National Average for regular gasoline
one year ago: $1.75;
one month ago: $1.95!

American's are paying almost
50 cents more per gallon this year than last.
That's almost $200 MILLION DOLLARS A DAY MORE THAN LAST YEAR -
For what??? - no new jobs, no new products or services!
At this rate, we will be taking $5.8 Billion Dollars out
of our economy during the month of April alone!

I just copied this from the Gasoline ticker announcement...

And don't forget that the bogus "war" is costing us 50 BILLION A MONTH.
And about 3 TRILLION is unaccounted for.
Sighhh, when are we going to wake up?
 
This comes from our local news station regard to history of gas price... This gives me good reason why I don't panic over gas price increase.

Jane Flasch (Rochester, NY) 04/07/05 - Disco wasn't the only thing invented in the 1970. Washington came up with something equally interesting to deal with the shortage of gas.

In 1973, Paul Marone pumped gas at the station he now owns.

He said, “We ran out a number of times. We couldn't get enough fuel to last the entire month!"

He remembers the lines and the rules. Stations flew green flags indicating they had gas to sell. Those with license plates ending in an odd number could only buy Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Even numbered plate owners could buy on the other days.

In those days, gas was so precious thieves did not rob cars for their stereos, (not because they were 8-tracks, either) they went for the gasoline. To prevent thieves from siphoning off gas, a new demand arose for locking gas caps.

In 1973, gas prices in Rochester peaked at 60 cents per gallon. That’s about $2.65 today, adjusting for inflation-- more than today's real price of $2.35.

Then, the average American car got almost 12 miles to the gallon. Thanks to today’s gas guzzling SUV's, in 2005, the average is 17 miles per gallon.

Yet there is an important distinction. Officials say gas supplies aren't an issue…yet. If you can afford it, you can have it. That wasn't the case in the 1970s.

In 1973, the crisis was sparked when 11 Arab oil producers cut back production in response to US policies supporting Israel. That oil embargo continued off and on through 1979.

Reprint from website URL: http://www.13wham.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=5D4C9138-B072-4D7D-88B8-C2CC801050D3
 
Liebling:-))) said:
$6.10 a gallon in Germany.
My gas here in Tennessee is $2.19 a gallon. But the tax is 38.8 cents per gallon. 18.4 of that is Federal.

International Gasoline Price Comparison January 2001


Country Tax % of Price
United Kingdom 76%
France 74%
Germany 73%
Italy 69%
Spain 63%
Japan 57%
Canada 45%
United States 29%

Socialist government programs are very expensive. This is one way the revenue is raised. Also, we produce more than half of our own gas. Most of these countries produce little or none.
 
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