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Aren't you lumping all drugs into one?

I'm for the legalization of marijuana. The rest, not so much, due to easier overdose, addiction, etc.

I'm contesting your theory that legalization of "drug" would cause an implosion of drug user. Again - people can overdose from or get addicted to anything. This is nothing more than double standard and hypocrisy to selectively say "no this is bad for you. yes this is fine."

What do you care if people OD on cocaine? Heath Ledger didn't certainly OD on cocaine.
 
I'm contesting your theory that legalization of "drug" would cause an implosion of drug user. Again - people can overdose from or get addicted to anything. This is nothing more than double standard and hypocrisy to selectively say "no this is bad for you. yes this is fine."

What do you care if people OD on cocaine? Heath Ledger didn't certainly OD on cocaine.

It's not that simple. I can overdose on Pepsi but its gonna be a hell lot harder than ODing on heroin.

Why are you okay with legalizing cocaine but not some medical drugs?
 
It's not that simple. I can overdose on Pepsi but its gonna be a hell lot harder than ODing on heroin.
it's still fallacious just because this drug is easier to die from than others. Again - what do you care? Majority of OD cases are due to lack of education and improper use. There is easier way to die if your intent is to commit suicide (jump off the bridge). Obviously - when legalizing cocaine/marijuana/etc... the public would be properly informed about it with FDA & Surgeon General's warnings.

Why are you okay with legalizing cocaine but not some medical drugs?
medicinal drugs? No - I pointed out the hypocrisy and double standard on your part because you're not OK with cocaine but you're OK with prescription drugs which have repeatedly abused to the point of addiction/OD. You know what I called the doctors who can write prescriptions? Legalized Drug Dealer.
 
Let me back up here. I just want to understand your position. You want to legalize all drugs? Let's try to put this in a realistic situation. Let's use heroin and crack. Would they be free to buy at the same place you can buy tobacco/alcohol (with age limits)? Or are they distributed like prescription drugs by, as you like to call them, legalized drug dealers (doctors)? If the latter, what symptoms would they be prescribed for? Or am I missing another possible legal method for obtaining them?
 
Let me back up here. I just want to understand your position. You want to legalize all drugs? Let's try to put this in a realistic situation. Let's use heroin and crack. Would they be free to buy at the same place you can buy tobacco/alcohol (with age limits)? Or are they distributed like prescription drugs by, as you like to call them, legalized drug dealers (doctors)? If the latter, what symptoms would they be prescribed for? Or am I missing another possible legal method for obtaining them?

you're confusing me with Doug. I'll repost my posts here for you to recap -

I'm not exactly all for legislation of all drugs but our approach toward it is wrong. Just a food for thought :)

what alternative you ask? none because I do not have enough expertise or in-depth knowledge in this issue but what I have is a logical view on this decades-long issue. For starter - legalizing marijuana makes sense - economically and socially. Look at why people resort to illicit drugs. Perhaps this legalization of weed would attract people away from illicit drugs. Obviously - the key driver to succumbing to illicit drugs is economy and social pressure.

Crack is DIRTY and cheap - a very FILTHY form of cocaine. yes this ought to be banned. crack makes you feel like a superman - a heightened sense of euphoria.... and then the side effect is paranoia and aggravation when the effect wears off. Now how is this any more different from legalized medication like anti-anxiety pills? or hundred of other drugs out there? They perform the same thing that the user wants to achieve.

Speed (or Amphetamines) keeps you awake. Legalized drug for same effect - A.D.D. drugs and anti-narcoleptic drug. and now why is it that "poor man's drugs" carry harsher penalty than "rich man's drugs"?

simple.... the pharmaceutical companies' dirty greedy hands are all over this issue. Like I said previously - they are incredibly effective at stigmatizing these drugs and lobbying government into regulating it. For your views on drugs - it's a hypocrisy and double standard.... the end result of pharmaceutical companies' effective subliminal brainwashing. <putting on aluminum foil hat> :cool2:

I ain't FOR legalizing ALL drugs. Some drugs should remain BANNED but I think we should legalize marijuana and cocaine. :dunno:

is my stance on this issue clearer now? :)
 
simple - look at drug-friendly countries like Amsterdam, Australia, South America, Russia, etc... they're doing just fine. :smoking:

Australia also doesn't advertise prescription drugs on TV like we do in this country.
 
Yes but my question still stands.... you said legalization of cocaine for sure. How will cocaine be sold? And you're confusing me because:

You said this:
No - I pointed out the hypocrisy and double standard on your part because you're not OK with cocaine but you're OK with prescription drugs which have repeatedly abused to the point of addiction/OD.
then this:
I ain't FOR legalizing ALL drugs. Some drugs should remain BANNED but I think we should legalize marijuana and cocaine.

So you're okay with legalization of cocaine but not other drugs. And yet this doesn't count as a double standard? Am I missing something?
 
yes of course. that's why it's pointless to continue spending trillions on this futile drug wars. The Prohibitionism is truly an EPIC FAIL!

If the war on drugs reduced usage from 90% to 70%, wouldn't you consider that a success? I would.
 
I never advocated driving while impaired. That has nothing to do with drug legalization. Alcohol kills thousands of innocents yearly, yet it is still legal. However they tried prohibition and it didnt work.

I lost a good friend to heroin. Making it illegal didnt save him. It is my belief that if heroin was legal, he would still be alive today. The street stuff is cut so much it is only 5% pure. If you were to remove the heroin and inject the cut it would be just as toxic.

Drugs should be legal to adults over 21. It is the individual's choice. They dont have to justify their decision to take them. Anyone who looks down upon drug users is a bigot, plain and simple. Drug users are the last group of people who can be legally persecuted and discriminated against.

I agree 150%

at first it would be chaos but after you get past that....it would be all treated like coffee and cigerettes.
 
Yes but my question still stands.... you said legalization of cocaine for sure. How will cocaine be sold? And you're confusing me because:

You said this:

then this:


So you're okay with legalization of cocaine but not other drugs. And yet this doesn't count as a double standard? Am I missing something?

other drugs = illicit & dirty drugs like crack, etc... NOT prescription drugs.

My 2 statements above that you posted. They're quite consistent with each other - legalization for marijuana & cocaine. and to answer your question, cocaine will be sold the same way that marijuana is sold. Obviously - the government will regulate it (and tax it too :)). How? don't ask me. I'm not a politician or lawmaker.
 
If the war on drugs reduced usage from 90% to 70%, wouldn't you consider that a success? I would.

no. why? because that's a 20% drop which is IMPOSSIBLE and UNFEASIBLE. That's like saying - Obama can overturn this economy within 2 years and we will have a trillion dollars surplus.

So far..... we have spent more than $20 billion per year and lost thousand of soldiers/law enforcements' lives fighting in this hopeless drug war. is it worth it, you ask? absolutely not. We already lost when the drug war started.

so let me ask you this - if the VIOLENT CRIMES relating to drug was dropped by 10% due to legalization of cocaine... is that a success?
 
Which brings up the question, How long has drugs been abused? I would say alot longer than we all might think!
 
why not? there are plenty of other drugs that as addictive and dangerous as cocaine. Legalize cocaine and TAX THE CRAP OUT OF IT! :D at least it'll curb down the use of dirty crack and heroine.

after all there used to be coke in...*ahem* coke. :lol: And I'm for the legalization of it because of the same reasons. It puts gangs out of buisness and the drug itself wouldnt be "dirty" like how Jiro described it. Some people buy Ajax for all they know when its advertised as this drug or that drug, blah blah...

European countries have "banned" drugs, but the rules are so lax simply because theyre 10000% more responsible about it, especially since its off the street not exactly taboo anymore.
 
I'm contesting your theory that legalization of "drug" would cause an implosion of drug user. Again - people can overdose from or get addicted to anything. This is nothing more than double standard and hypocrisy to selectively say "no this is bad for you. yes this is fine."

What do you care if people OD on cocaine? Heath Ledger didn't certainly OD on cocaine.

Fuckin' A.

The guy made a bad decision to take more than his body could warrant. While its tragic and all that shit, who am I to stand up and go OMG! Everyones different and whatever people want to do with their bodies is only their buisness and no one elses. You want to live, then you know how. You want to commit suicide by overdose, well so be it. After the initial chaos, people will learn to handle it and become immune/responsible for it.
 
Which brings up the question, How long has drugs been abused? I would say alot longer than we all might think!

Theres always the bad apples who stand out because they maliciously "abuse" the drug of choice. But again they're also the ones who garner the press, whereas the higher % of responsible drug users dont.
 
other drugs = illicit & dirty drugs like crack, etc... NOT prescription drugs.

My 2 statements above that you posted. They're quite consistent with each other - legalization for marijuana & cocaine. and to answer your question, cocaine will be sold the same way that marijuana is sold. Obviously - the government will regulate it (and tax it too :)). How? don't ask me. I'm not a politician or lawmaker.

OH! You want CLEAN drugs. Oh oh my bad. Marijuana is easy to legalize. Just sell it in its natural form, but cocaine is NOT natural. Coca leaves are (which are definitely legal in Peru). Cocaine is extracted from the leaves through synthetic means, like most drugs. Who is to determine the "cleanness" of a drug? After all the more "clean" a drug is, the more potent it is. Is there no limit to how potent a drug could be?

After all, prescription pills and other legal drugs do have their "Take 2 pills a day" as a guidance of what is too much. So do we also have this for cocaine?
"Snort no more than two 4 inch lines a day"?

Legalizing POTENT drugs is NOT simple if you think realistically.
 
If cocaine was legalized. It would make it so much easier for people to make crack cocaine, and sell it as a cheap highly addicted drug.

So It still will be an EPIC FAIL.

I do not believe in legalizing these drugs.
 
that's fine. The result of your argument is already apparent to this date. Costly drug wars, many lost lives, futile drug laws, ineffective enforcement, and list goes on forever. The winner of this drug war is the dealers.

yup, the only winners are the dealers
 
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