Fredfam1 Conducts Another Experiment

Day 5 I think

Today we worked on our first VLOG about our hearing
family learning or trying to learn CS. At first the boys
were all excited, but Liz was off in the bathroom
crying, whining about looking dumb on camera for
the whole world to see. I told her to just sit and
watch. PJ was first up and he and I got into a
disscussion about weather he had to sign my or me.
(He knows the difference in ASL but his English
wouldn't allow him to sign me when in English it
would have been my, I was very surprised at how
stubborn he got about it) So in came Chris to try
his turn. I keep having to tell him to tighten up his
hands, because all his signs looked the same. Like
a hearing person mubeling. Then he kept signing
the wrong signs, though he just laughed about it
and said, "I'm not really an on camera person, I'd
rather do the voice and film it". He kept trying (badly
though) until Lizzy got so frustrated she stomped her
foot and said, "Fine! I'll just do it myself then!" And I
thought she did marvoulous with only 4 retakes! I posted
it on youtube and it will probably be available to view here
tomorrow. The leg you see in the corner will be PJs
ttyl:giggle:
 
Great to watch!! :)

Brings back memories... In our signlanguage course we also had to videotape ourself...
On the older video, I recall looking the same as you (assuming it's you)... thinking hard for the next sign.

Was a good way to learn. Helps a lot to see yourself sign.
Keep it up!
 
No School Today

We just got back from family events and are soooo full
we can barely crawl into bed. Probably no posts tomorrow
either. Merry Christmas All!
 
fredfam1 said:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.


I know this will probably be painfully slow for most of you
to view, but I couldn't help posting it. I'm such a proud momma!
!
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I was smiling through the whole vlog. Your daughter is sooo adorable and she signs pretty well for a hearing child from hearing parents. Heck, my daughter doesnt sign that well! Great job, fredfam1!!! I will be looking forward to your future vlogs. :)

Merry Christmas to you and to your family!
 
shel90 said:
I was smiling through the whole vlog. Your daughter is sooo adorable and she signs pretty well for a hearing child from hearing parents. Heck, my daughter doesnt sign that well! Great job, fredfam1!!! I will be looking forward to your future vlogs. :)

Merry Christmas to you and to your family!
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Shel I just let Lizzy read your response, and she is grinning from
ear to ear. It was very encouraging to her! (You can tell your
kids all day they are doing a great job but comming from people
they don't know it seems to mean more) I read her the other
responses too and she left just skipping down the hall way. Cool!
 
Early to Bed?

All day we had been practicing to do a vlog where we
cued a special word for the hoidays. But when I went
upstairs to get the kids to film it they had all brushed
their teeth, got their jammies on and were in bed reading.
No, they didnt want to vlog today because, you know
who was coming and they had to get to bed, even
though it was only 6:30!
I wish it were this easy to get them tucked in every day
of the year!
Merry Christmas all!:giggle:
 
PJ cues Merry Christmas

This video is of the kids playing a board game Christmas
morning. Yesterday PJ and I had practiced cueing
Merry Christmas all day. We had to use a hand shape
we haven't learned yet and we also noticed that each
of the 3 face positions had hand shape 3 at the end.
PJ has exagerated the last movement here because
he wanted to look at his hand due to the new hand
shape that we learned for this out of order. This postion
for the uh sound is done to the side of the face not
exactly like he did it here. There was no practice for
this one. He remembered them from yesterday, (and
again I had to look!). I'm not even certain if I did
it correctly but here is how I understood it.
Meh (hand shape 5 with face position 2 {chin})
Ree (hand shape 3 with face position 1 {side of face})
Kris (hand shape 2 with face position 3 {throat} hs 3 fp 3)
Mus (hand shape 5 with fp 4 {side} hs 3

Hope I taught him this correctly so we don't have to relearn it.
(He won't have any trouble but I would!):giggle:

click below to see PJ cue his first word

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
 
correction

After watching the video I noticecd that PJ
placed his hand closer to fp 1 then fp 2 (chin)
as he should have. We will have to work on that.
 
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Test Break

My sister in law who has been interpreting professionally
for 25 plus years just reminded me that I need to stop
and document the kids current reading levels. I will
do that this week. She thinks it may be an excellent
way to facilitate reading in hearing children and we
all know the current state of reading in the public
school system is deplorable. In our state anyway.
I am not a licensed tester and promise to resist
prompting the kids in my parental ways, in order
to get accurate results. heehee So this will not
be an official kind of anything. Just a curiodity that
might spur more research or help a parent teach a
child who is struggling.
 
vallee said:
How do you test their reading level?
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I purchased a book that has one minute reading tests.
By following the guide lines, (and resisting the mommy urge to prompt)
you can get a fairly accurate estimation of their current reading levels.
It has charts to follow so you can even determine their percentile
level for their age and grade level.
There is even a one minute test for students with dyslexia though I
haven't quiet figured out how to interpret the results yet. I'm just
begining to research that. There are also several free sights on line.
Just google something like " free reading tests online"
or "free reading comprehension tests"
sometimes you will see links to other things you might want to test
for. If you don't understand a reference just look that up in Wiki and
start over again. (Man I LOVE the internet!)
Or you could pay some tester to do it, but I try to always do things
myself. A matter of pride I guess.
 
fredfam1 said:
I purchased a book that has one minute reading tests.
By following the guide lines, (and resisting the mommy urge to prompt)
you can get a fairly accurate estimation of their current reading levels.
It has charts to follow so you can even determine their percentile
level for their age and grade level.
There is even a one minute test for students with dyslexia though I
haven't quiet figured out how to interpret the results yet. I'm just
begining to research that. There are also several free sights on line.
Just google something like " free reading tests online"
or "free reading comprehension tests"
sometimes you will see links to other things you might want to test
for. If you don't understand a reference just look that up in Wiki and
start over again. (Man I LOVE the internet!)
Or you could pay some tester to do it, but I try to always do things
myself. A matter of pride I guess.
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As long as you use the same tests and the same procedure in doing your post tests, you should get reasonably valid results for your kids. But be a bit wary of the tests you find on the Internet, like online reading tests and I.Q. tests, etc. There is no standardization of these tests, and by and large, they are neither valid nor reliable.
 
jillio said:
As long as you use the same tests and the same procedure in doing your post tests, you should get reasonably valid results for your kids. But be a bit wary of the tests you find on the Internet, like online reading tests and I.Q. tests, etc. There is no standardization of these tests, and by and large, they are neither valid nor reliable.
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Thanks Jillio, yes I am aware of the need to use the same tests.
Just for curiosity I gave each of the kids a one min reading test
designed for dyslexics. PJ is 7 and so far I can't tell if he is dyslexic
or not. Chris is 12 and though conventional tests place him at or just
below grade level he has continued to amaze and astound people with his
verbal skills and tirades on evolution verses creation, (a topic of
intrest to him) but he is definitely dyslexic. He and I have struggled
with his reading for many years. He is above grade level in math
At 10 Liz is definately not dyslexic and several months ago tested at 12th grade 2nd month in reading.
This Dyslexic test gave scores different from the standardized tests but it is easy to administer and if I use it at the end it should show an increase if there is one. I will do another standardized test too.

Here are the scores
Dyslexia Test ------- Standardized test
PJ 6 grade 6th month --------- 2nd grade 1st month age 7
Liz 10th grade 5th month ----------- 12th grade 2nd month age 10
Chris 9th grade 10th month ----------- 4th grade 2nd month age 12

I do not think PJ is dyslexic.
Liz is not dyslexic.
Chris is dyslexic.

So we will see what they do at the end of this experiment.
 
jillio said:
As long as you use the same tests and the same procedure in doing your post tests, you should get reasonably valid results for your kids. But be a bit wary of the tests you find on the Internet, like online reading tests and I.Q. tests, etc. There is no standardization of these tests, and by and large, they are neither valid nor reliable.
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Thanks Jillio, yes I am aware of the need to use the same tests.
Just for curiosity I gave each of the kids a one min reading test
designed for dyslexics. PJ is 7 and so far I can't tell if he is dyslexic
or not. Chris is 12 and though conventional tests place him at or just
below grade level he has continued to amaze and astound people with his
verbal skills and tirades on evolution verses creation, (a topic of
intrest to him) but he is definitely dyslexic. He and I have struggled
with his reading for many years. He is above grade level in math
At 10 Liz is definately not dyslexic and several months ago tested at 12th grade 2nd month in reading.
This Dyslexic test gave scores different from the standardized tests but it is easy to administer and if I use it at the end it should show an increase if there is one. I will do another standardized test too.

Here are the scores
Dyslexia Test Standardized test
PJ 6 grade 6th month 2nd grade 1st month age 7
Liz 10th grade 5th month 12th grade 2nd month age 10
Chris 9th grade 10th month 4th grade 2nd month age 12

I do not think PJ is dyslexic.
Liz is not dyslexic.
Chris is dyslexic.

So we will see what they do at the end of this experiment.
 
Also this is hard to read, I typed it with spaces but it didn't come out that way.
 
fredfam1 said:
Also this is hard to read, I typed it with spaces but it didn't come out that way.
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The editor removes extra spaces... you'll need to use dots or something else

Here are the scores
...................... Dyslexia Test ................ Standardized test
PJ ......... 6th grade, 6th month .......2nd grade, 1st month age 7
Liz ....... 10th grade, 5th month .......12th grade, 2nd month age 10
Chris ..... 9th grade, 10th month .......4th grade, 2nd month age 12
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fredfam1 said:
I purchased a book that has one minute reading tests.
By following the guide lines, (and resisting the mommy urge to prompt)
you can get a fairly accurate estimation of their current reading levels.
It has charts to follow so you can even determine their percentile
level for their age and grade level.
There is even a one minute test for students with dyslexia though I
haven't quiet figured out how to interpret the results yet. I'm just
begining to research that. There are also several free sights on line.
Just google something like " free reading tests online"
or "free reading comprehension tests"
sometimes you will see links to other things you might want to test
for. If you don't understand a reference just look that up in Wiki and
start over again. (Man I LOVE the internet!)
Or you could pay some tester to do it, but I try to always do things
myself. A matter of pride I guess.
Click to expand...


Thanks - I have to say I am so impressed everything you posted. I also do the one minute fluency checks as well. I can't think of the name of the program we use. I don't want to put something and have it wrong so I will wait until I get to school(I'm out of town). I have had one child with dyslexia in my classroom. It is a challenge. So for my reference what do you do to improve reading skills and comprehension?

I love the internet too - I use so much to teach all subjects too. My favorite is Jefferson County, Tennessee. They have a fantastic set of powerpoints and science resources. bbc.org also has some great stuff.
 
Wow, your hearing daughter signs so well. impressed!! I enjoy reading your posts in this thread, find it very interesting, and you're right about those of us who hasn't experiences or tried CS, wouldn't know if we like it or not.
 
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