No. It made me puzzled why you posted that retarded post from another community. I decided to check the source out and found it. You are the one who obsessed about it, you have been posting the AOL posts around here time to time in the past under your old SN.
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Magatsu said:
So now you believe me right. You don't have to brag about it and posted
that person name on here. Shame on you.
How would you like me to do the same to you.
Then DON'T post the posts from another community WITHOUT sources. It is against the general rules. Simple eh?
You just don't like it when I turned the table on you when I posted the source.
Edit: I don't care if you do that to me... we are in the public for damn sake :roll:
You just don't like it when I turned the table on you when I posted the source.
Edit: I don't care if you do that to me... we are in the public for damn sake :roll:
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I'm pretty depressed by the whole Terri Schiavo situation. I really feel bad for her poor parents. 
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you need to get a job working with a private eye... you are good at it. 
It may be surprise to you but I start to be unsure about this situation.Toonces said:I'm pretty depressed by the whole Terri Schiavo situation. I really feel bad for her poor parents.
But I get this feeling that something or somehow will plug her in soon or later. Call it a 'gut'.
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I just saw Larry King on TV tonight. Michael Schiavo and his lawyer and Terri's sister and the family lawyer, Mr. Gibbs, were on it. Man...Michael gave me the creeps the way his face looked emotionless. O_o However, Mr. Gibbs said that the congress are still wrangling over the bill, and could possibly pass it on Monday. I don't know....we'll just see what happen on Monday, I guess.
Oops... here's the link with more info about this case:
House lawyers appeal Schiavo case to Supreme Court
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Oops... here's the link with more info about this case:
House lawyers appeal Schiavo case to Supreme Court
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I just found this irony that they would push the bill to do something about this yet they refused to push the bill to save the environment and such from well-known and repeatly-proved hazard chemcials which caused massive of health problems among in children for many years (plus thousands and thousands of deaths). I can say about this: "Only in America".
Go figure.
Go figure.
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This is for people who feel strongly that Terri Schiavo deserved to be saved and not be starved to death NEED to go to this http://www.nrlc.org/ and ask U.S. House of Representatives and Senate to resolve their differences in order to pass the law ASAP to save her. Time is of essence!
And for the other people who thinks Terri should be left alone to die can just ignore this announcement and don't have to post your opinion about it here...but if you must do something to express your opinion, you may call your representatives in your State and in Congress as well and tell them you support Terri's right to die.
And for the other people who thinks Terri should be left alone to die can just ignore this announcement and don't have to post your opinion about it here...but if you must do something to express your opinion, you may call your representatives in your State and in Congress as well and tell them you support Terri's right to die.
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Magatsu said:
It is ironic. It's also maddening. What Congress wants to do is take these kinds of decisions out of the hands of families and doctors. This is wrong! Not only that, but if they craft a law specific only to Terri Schiavo, it won't stand. It's unconstitutional.
Hate to tell you all, but nothing more can legally be done to keep this woman alive. Congress will try and pass legislation, but it will be struck down due to constitional reasons. The government simply has no say in this. They are butting in simply out of political reasons. Meanwhile, Terri is still pawn in all this, and any move at reinserting the tube will only delay the inevitable.
It's sad.
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Is terri's death process painful?
I found what I had been hoping to find. I found an article that disputes the assertion that Terri's death by starvation and dehydration will be painful.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Schiavo/story?id=531907&page=1
I found what I had been hoping to find. I found an article that disputes the assertion that Terri's death by starvation and dehydration will be painful.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Schiavo/story?id=531907&page=1
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This is not how Kate Adamson experienced when she had her feeding tube removed for 8 days while she was in a 70-days coma after suffering double stroke. She said the hunger pains was worse than anything she ever experienced.
Sorry to disagree with you, Oceanbreeze, but I don't think the doctors ever knew personally what it is like to be starving. So what do they know?
Here's the link: Kate Adamson Fights for Terri Schiavo
More of this at http://www.rense.com/general44/vege.htm
and http://www.discardedlies.com/entries/2005/03/kate_adamson_speaks_out_on_terri.php
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Sorry to disagree with you, Oceanbreeze, but I don't think the doctors ever knew personally what it is like to be starving. So what do they know?
Here's the link: Kate Adamson Fights for Terri Schiavo
More of this at http://www.rense.com/general44/vege.htm
and http://www.discardedlies.com/entries/2005/03/kate_adamson_speaks_out_on_terri.php
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Tousi said:
I know, Tousi. Sad, isn't it?
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Another update on the Terri Schiavo case in case anyone are still following it:
Schiavo Mom Seeks Action on Feeding Tube
Mar 19, 1:33 PM (ET)
By MITCH STACY
PINELLAS PARK, Fla. (AP) - The mother of Terri Schiavo appealed Saturday to politicians to take action requiring reconnection of the feeding tube that was removed from the severely brain-damaged woman on court order.
"Please, please, please, save my little girl," Mary Schindler said outside the hospice where her daughter lives.
Schindler called upon President Bush, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, members of Congress and state lawmakers to do whatever they could to prevent Schiavo from dying. Republican leaders on Capitol Hill, who failed Friday in a bid to use congressional subpoena powers to circumvent court orders, said they would work throughout the weekend to find a way to do that.
"Mrs. Schiavo's struggle to live, our fight to save her and the American people's prayers will all continue," said House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas.
Schiavo, 41, could linger for one to two weeks, if no one intercedes and gets the tube reinserted - something that has happened twice before. The tube was disconnected Friday afternoon.
Schiavo's husband, Michael, said Terri Schiavo's wishes were being carried out. "I am 100 percent sure," he said Saturday on NBC's "Today."
"It felt like some peace was happening for Terri," Michael Schiavo said. "And I felt like she was finally going to get what she wants, and be at peace and be with the Lord."
As activists kept up their vigil for Schiavo, three men were arrested on misdemeanor trespassing charges for allegedly trying to enter the hospice Saturday to give her bread and water. Although she cannot eat or drink, supporters of keeping her alive said the move had symbolic value.
"A woman is being starved to death, and I have to do something," said Brandi Swindell, 28, from Boise, Idaho. "There are just certain things that you have to do, that you have to try."
A spokesman for Schiavo's parents, Paul O'Donnell, later told reporters that they do not want supporters to engage in civil disobedience on their daughter's behalf.
"The family is asking that the protests remain peaceful," said O'Donnell, a Roman Catholic Franciscan monk.
The removal signals that an end may be near in a decade-long feud between Schiavo's husband and her devoutly Roman Catholic parents, Bob and Mary Schindler. The parents have been trying to oust Michael Schiavo as their daughter's guardian and keep in place the tube that has kept her alive for more than 15 years.
Michael Schiavo says his wife told him she would not want to be kept alive artificially. Her parents dispute that, saying she could get better and that their daughter has laughed, cried, smiled and responded to their voices. Court-appointed physicians testified her brain damage was so severe that there was no hope she would ever have any cognitive abilities.
David Gibbs III, the Schindlers' attorney, said he would work through the weekend to prepare another appeal for a federal appellate court.
On Friday, Republicans on Capitol Hill issued a subpoena demanding that Terri Schiavo be brought before a congressional hearing, saying that removing the tube amounted to "barbarism." Michael Schiavo's attorney shot back at a news conference, calling the subpoenas "nothing short of thuggery."
"Terri Schiavo has a right to die in peace," attorney George Felos said.
The judge presiding over the case ruled in Michael Schiavo's favor and rejected the request from House attorneys to delay the removal, which he had previously ordered to take place at 1 p.m. EST.
"I have had no cogent reason why the (congressional) committee should intervene," Circuit Judge George Greer told attorneys in a conference call, adding that last-minute action by Congress does not invalidate years of court rulings.
Gov. Jeb Bush said the judge's decision "breaks my heart" and noted it often takes two decades for a death row inmate's appeals to go through the system.
"There's this rush to starve her to death," Bush said.
Michael Schiavo said Bush and other lawmakers have no business interfering in a personal, family matter. "These people are pandering for votes. That's all," he told NBC.
Late Friday, the Supreme Court, without comment, denied an emergency request from the House committee that issued the subpoenas to reinsert Schiavo's feeding tube while the committee files appeals in the lower courts to have its subpoenas recognized.
Schiavo suffered severe brain damage in 1990 when a chemical imbalance apparently brought on by an eating disorder caused her heart to stop beating for a few minutes. She can breathe on her own, but has relied on the feeding and hydration tube to keep her alive.
Both sides accused each other of being motivated by greed over a $1 million medical malpractice award from doctors who failed to diagnose the chemical imbalance.
The Schindlers also said Michael Schiavo wants their daughter dead so he can marry his longtime girlfriend, with whom he has young children. They have begged him to divorce their daughter, and let them care for her.
The case has encompassed at least 19 judges in at least six different courts.
In 2001, Schiavo went without food and water for two days before a judge ordered the tube reinserted when a new witness surfaced.
When the tube was removed in October 2003, the governor pushed through "Terri's Law," and six days later the tube was reinserted. The Florida Supreme Court ruled in September 2004 that Bush had overstepped his authority and declared the law unconstitutional.
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Source: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20050319/D88U70TO0.html
Schiavo Mom Seeks Action on Feeding Tube
Mar 19, 1:33 PM (ET)
By MITCH STACY
PINELLAS PARK, Fla. (AP) - The mother of Terri Schiavo appealed Saturday to politicians to take action requiring reconnection of the feeding tube that was removed from the severely brain-damaged woman on court order.
"Please, please, please, save my little girl," Mary Schindler said outside the hospice where her daughter lives.
Schindler called upon President Bush, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, members of Congress and state lawmakers to do whatever they could to prevent Schiavo from dying. Republican leaders on Capitol Hill, who failed Friday in a bid to use congressional subpoena powers to circumvent court orders, said they would work throughout the weekend to find a way to do that.
"Mrs. Schiavo's struggle to live, our fight to save her and the American people's prayers will all continue," said House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas.
Schiavo, 41, could linger for one to two weeks, if no one intercedes and gets the tube reinserted - something that has happened twice before. The tube was disconnected Friday afternoon.
Schiavo's husband, Michael, said Terri Schiavo's wishes were being carried out. "I am 100 percent sure," he said Saturday on NBC's "Today."
"It felt like some peace was happening for Terri," Michael Schiavo said. "And I felt like she was finally going to get what she wants, and be at peace and be with the Lord."
As activists kept up their vigil for Schiavo, three men were arrested on misdemeanor trespassing charges for allegedly trying to enter the hospice Saturday to give her bread and water. Although she cannot eat or drink, supporters of keeping her alive said the move had symbolic value.
"A woman is being starved to death, and I have to do something," said Brandi Swindell, 28, from Boise, Idaho. "There are just certain things that you have to do, that you have to try."
A spokesman for Schiavo's parents, Paul O'Donnell, later told reporters that they do not want supporters to engage in civil disobedience on their daughter's behalf.
"The family is asking that the protests remain peaceful," said O'Donnell, a Roman Catholic Franciscan monk.
The removal signals that an end may be near in a decade-long feud between Schiavo's husband and her devoutly Roman Catholic parents, Bob and Mary Schindler. The parents have been trying to oust Michael Schiavo as their daughter's guardian and keep in place the tube that has kept her alive for more than 15 years.
Michael Schiavo says his wife told him she would not want to be kept alive artificially. Her parents dispute that, saying she could get better and that their daughter has laughed, cried, smiled and responded to their voices. Court-appointed physicians testified her brain damage was so severe that there was no hope she would ever have any cognitive abilities.
David Gibbs III, the Schindlers' attorney, said he would work through the weekend to prepare another appeal for a federal appellate court.
On Friday, Republicans on Capitol Hill issued a subpoena demanding that Terri Schiavo be brought before a congressional hearing, saying that removing the tube amounted to "barbarism." Michael Schiavo's attorney shot back at a news conference, calling the subpoenas "nothing short of thuggery."
"Terri Schiavo has a right to die in peace," attorney George Felos said.
The judge presiding over the case ruled in Michael Schiavo's favor and rejected the request from House attorneys to delay the removal, which he had previously ordered to take place at 1 p.m. EST.
"I have had no cogent reason why the (congressional) committee should intervene," Circuit Judge George Greer told attorneys in a conference call, adding that last-minute action by Congress does not invalidate years of court rulings.
Gov. Jeb Bush said the judge's decision "breaks my heart" and noted it often takes two decades for a death row inmate's appeals to go through the system.
"There's this rush to starve her to death," Bush said.
Michael Schiavo said Bush and other lawmakers have no business interfering in a personal, family matter. "These people are pandering for votes. That's all," he told NBC.
Late Friday, the Supreme Court, without comment, denied an emergency request from the House committee that issued the subpoenas to reinsert Schiavo's feeding tube while the committee files appeals in the lower courts to have its subpoenas recognized.
Schiavo suffered severe brain damage in 1990 when a chemical imbalance apparently brought on by an eating disorder caused her heart to stop beating for a few minutes. She can breathe on her own, but has relied on the feeding and hydration tube to keep her alive.
Both sides accused each other of being motivated by greed over a $1 million medical malpractice award from doctors who failed to diagnose the chemical imbalance.
The Schindlers also said Michael Schiavo wants their daughter dead so he can marry his longtime girlfriend, with whom he has young children. They have begged him to divorce their daughter, and let them care for her.
The case has encompassed at least 19 judges in at least six different courts.
In 2001, Schiavo went without food and water for two days before a judge ordered the tube reinserted when a new witness surfaced.
When the tube was removed in October 2003, the governor pushed through "Terri's Law," and six days later the tube was reinserted. The Florida Supreme Court ruled in September 2004 that Bush had overstepped his authority and declared the law unconstitutional.
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Source: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20050319/D88U70TO0.html
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What do you call a country that sentences its prisoners to death by starvation and dehydration?
Barbaric, inhumane perhaps?
Fasts, even hunger strikes, often are self-imposed for periods of time. However, no one in his right mind passes up fluids.
Death by dehydration is a painful, agonizing and arduous process that takes 10 to 14 days.
In addition to feeling the pangs of hunger and thirst, the skin, lips and tongue crack. The nose bleeds because of the drying of the mucus membranes. Heaving and vomiting may ensue because of the drying out of the stomach lining. The victim may experience seizures.
As the fluid level in the body goes down, the blood pressure goes down and the heart rate goes up. Respiration often increases as blood is shunted from the periphery to the central part of the body in a desperate attempt to sustain the primary organs. The hands and feet become extremely cold.
Compared to starvation and dehydration, death by hanging, firing squad, even the electric chair seems humane.
What kind of country imposes such a death, even on those guilty of the most heinous crimes?
Look in the mirror! We the people of the United States of America now are guilty of allowing this kind of death sentence to be carried out – not against murders, rapists and child molesters, but on some of the most disabled in our midst.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34416
MOST OF THE TIME, we never know for sure what a starved or dehydrated person experiences. But in at least one case--that of a young woman who had her tube feeding stopped for eight days and lived to tell the tale--we have direct evidence of the agony that forced dehydration may cause.
At age 33, Kate Adamson collapsed from a devastating and incapacitating stroke. She was utterly unresponsive and was diagnosed as being in a persistent vegetative state (PVS). Because of a bowel obstruction she developed, her nourishment was stopped so that doctors could perform surgery.
Adamson eventually recovered sufficiently to author "Kate's Journey: Triumph Over Adversity," in which she tells the terrifying tale. Rather than being unconscious with no chance of recovery as her doctors believed, she was actually awake and aware but unable to move any part of her body voluntarily. (This is known as a "locked-in state.") When she appeared recently on "The O'Reilly Factor," host Bill O'Reilly asked Adamson about the dehydration experience:
O'REILLY: When they took the feeding tube out, what went through your mind?
ADAMSON: When the feeding tube was turned off for eight days, I thought I was going insane. I was screaming out in my mind, "Don't you know I need to eat?" And even up until that point, I had been having a bagful of Ensure as my nourishment that was going through the feeding tube. At that point, it sounded pretty good. I just wanted something. The fact that I had nothing, the hunger pains overrode every thought I had.
O'REILLY: So you were feeling pain when they removed your tube?
ADAMSON: Yes. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. To say that--especially when Michael [Schiavo] on national TV mentioned last week that it's a pretty painless thing to have the feeding tube removed--it is the exact opposite. It was sheer torture, Bill.
O'REILLY: It's just amazing.
ADAMSON: Sheer torture . . .
In preparation for this article, I contacted Adamson for more details about the torture she experienced while being dehydrated. She told me about having been operated upon (to remove the bowel obstruction) with inadequate anesthesia when doctors believed she was unconscious:
The agony of going without food was a constant pain that lasted not several hours like my operation did, but several days. You have to endure the physical pain and on top of that you have to endure the emotional pain. Your whole body cries out, "Feed me. I am alive and a person, don't let me die, for God's Sake! Somebody feed me."
Unbelievably, she described being deprived of food and water as "far worse" than experiencing the pain of abdominal surgery. Despite having been on an on an IV saline solution, Adamson still had horrible thirst:
I craved anything to drink. Anything. I obsessively visualized drinking from a huge bottle of orange Gatorade. And I hate orange Gatorade. I did receive lemon flavored mouth swabs to alleviate dryness but they did nothing to slack my desperate thirst.
Apologists for dehydrating patients like Terri might respond that Terri is not conscious and locked-in as Adamson was but in a persistent vegetative state and thus would feel nothing. Yet, the PVS diagnosis is often mistaken--as indeed it was in Adamson's case. And while the courts have all ruled that Terri is unconscious based on medical testimony, this is strongly disputed by other medical experts and Terri's family who insist that she is interactive with them. Moreover, it is undisputed that whatever her actual level of awareness, Terri does react to painful stimuli. Intriguingly, her doctor testified he prescribes pain medication for her every month during the course of her menstrual period.
BEYOND THE TERRI SCHIAVO CASE, it is undisputed that conscious cognitively disabled patients are dehydrated in nursing homes and hospitals throughout the country almost as a matter of routine. Dr. Cranford, for example, openly admitted in his Wendland testimony that he removes feeding tubes from conscious patients. Thus, many other people may also have experienced the agony described by Adamson and worse, given that dehydrating to death goes on for about a week longer than she experienced.
AT THIS POINT, defenders of removing feeding tubes from people with profound cognitive disabilities might claim that whatever painful sensations dehydration may cause, these patients receive palliating drugs to ensure that their deaths are peaceful. But note: Adamson either did not receive such medications, or if she did, they didn't work. Moreover, because these disabled people usually can't communicate, it is impossible to know precisely what they experience. Thus, when asked in a deposition what he would do to prevent Robert Wendland from suffering during his dehydration, Dr. Cranford responded that he would give morphine but that the dose would be "arbitrary" because "you don't know how much he's suffering, you don't know how much aware he is . . . You're guessing at the dose." At trial, Cranford suggested he might have to put Wendland into a coma, a bitter irony considering that he had struggled over many months to regain consciousness.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/370oqiwy.asp?pg=2
Barbaric, inhumane perhaps?
Fasts, even hunger strikes, often are self-imposed for periods of time. However, no one in his right mind passes up fluids.
Death by dehydration is a painful, agonizing and arduous process that takes 10 to 14 days.
In addition to feeling the pangs of hunger and thirst, the skin, lips and tongue crack. The nose bleeds because of the drying of the mucus membranes. Heaving and vomiting may ensue because of the drying out of the stomach lining. The victim may experience seizures.
As the fluid level in the body goes down, the blood pressure goes down and the heart rate goes up. Respiration often increases as blood is shunted from the periphery to the central part of the body in a desperate attempt to sustain the primary organs. The hands and feet become extremely cold.
Compared to starvation and dehydration, death by hanging, firing squad, even the electric chair seems humane.
What kind of country imposes such a death, even on those guilty of the most heinous crimes?
Look in the mirror! We the people of the United States of America now are guilty of allowing this kind of death sentence to be carried out – not against murders, rapists and child molesters, but on some of the most disabled in our midst.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34416
MOST OF THE TIME, we never know for sure what a starved or dehydrated person experiences. But in at least one case--that of a young woman who had her tube feeding stopped for eight days and lived to tell the tale--we have direct evidence of the agony that forced dehydration may cause.
At age 33, Kate Adamson collapsed from a devastating and incapacitating stroke. She was utterly unresponsive and was diagnosed as being in a persistent vegetative state (PVS). Because of a bowel obstruction she developed, her nourishment was stopped so that doctors could perform surgery.
Adamson eventually recovered sufficiently to author "Kate's Journey: Triumph Over Adversity," in which she tells the terrifying tale. Rather than being unconscious with no chance of recovery as her doctors believed, she was actually awake and aware but unable to move any part of her body voluntarily. (This is known as a "locked-in state.") When she appeared recently on "The O'Reilly Factor," host Bill O'Reilly asked Adamson about the dehydration experience:
O'REILLY: When they took the feeding tube out, what went through your mind?
ADAMSON: When the feeding tube was turned off for eight days, I thought I was going insane. I was screaming out in my mind, "Don't you know I need to eat?" And even up until that point, I had been having a bagful of Ensure as my nourishment that was going through the feeding tube. At that point, it sounded pretty good. I just wanted something. The fact that I had nothing, the hunger pains overrode every thought I had.
O'REILLY: So you were feeling pain when they removed your tube?
ADAMSON: Yes. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. To say that--especially when Michael [Schiavo] on national TV mentioned last week that it's a pretty painless thing to have the feeding tube removed--it is the exact opposite. It was sheer torture, Bill.
O'REILLY: It's just amazing.
ADAMSON: Sheer torture . . .
In preparation for this article, I contacted Adamson for more details about the torture she experienced while being dehydrated. She told me about having been operated upon (to remove the bowel obstruction) with inadequate anesthesia when doctors believed she was unconscious:
The agony of going without food was a constant pain that lasted not several hours like my operation did, but several days. You have to endure the physical pain and on top of that you have to endure the emotional pain. Your whole body cries out, "Feed me. I am alive and a person, don't let me die, for God's Sake! Somebody feed me."
Unbelievably, she described being deprived of food and water as "far worse" than experiencing the pain of abdominal surgery. Despite having been on an on an IV saline solution, Adamson still had horrible thirst:
I craved anything to drink. Anything. I obsessively visualized drinking from a huge bottle of orange Gatorade. And I hate orange Gatorade. I did receive lemon flavored mouth swabs to alleviate dryness but they did nothing to slack my desperate thirst.
Apologists for dehydrating patients like Terri might respond that Terri is not conscious and locked-in as Adamson was but in a persistent vegetative state and thus would feel nothing. Yet, the PVS diagnosis is often mistaken--as indeed it was in Adamson's case. And while the courts have all ruled that Terri is unconscious based on medical testimony, this is strongly disputed by other medical experts and Terri's family who insist that she is interactive with them. Moreover, it is undisputed that whatever her actual level of awareness, Terri does react to painful stimuli. Intriguingly, her doctor testified he prescribes pain medication for her every month during the course of her menstrual period.
BEYOND THE TERRI SCHIAVO CASE, it is undisputed that conscious cognitively disabled patients are dehydrated in nursing homes and hospitals throughout the country almost as a matter of routine. Dr. Cranford, for example, openly admitted in his Wendland testimony that he removes feeding tubes from conscious patients. Thus, many other people may also have experienced the agony described by Adamson and worse, given that dehydrating to death goes on for about a week longer than she experienced.
AT THIS POINT, defenders of removing feeding tubes from people with profound cognitive disabilities might claim that whatever painful sensations dehydration may cause, these patients receive palliating drugs to ensure that their deaths are peaceful. But note: Adamson either did not receive such medications, or if she did, they didn't work. Moreover, because these disabled people usually can't communicate, it is impossible to know precisely what they experience. Thus, when asked in a deposition what he would do to prevent Robert Wendland from suffering during his dehydration, Dr. Cranford responded that he would give morphine but that the dose would be "arbitrary" because "you don't know how much he's suffering, you don't know how much aware he is . . . You're guessing at the dose." At trial, Cranford suggested he might have to put Wendland into a coma, a bitter irony considering that he had struggled over many months to regain consciousness.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/370oqiwy.asp?pg=2
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This is heartbreaking. Again, this article is too long, so I'll just post the link here.
ATTORNEY’S LAST VISIT WITH TERRI SCHIAVO
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Reba said:
No. I would NOT support trying to hand-feed Terri. This woman expressed a wish to die if some kind of catastrophic event took place. To try and give her nourishment would, in my mind, go against her wishes.