Explicit 'Banned Book' Infuriates Virginia Father...

I think these types of books should be out there, it shows a perspective different from the All-American view. With this book being banned, the school is essentially stiffling out the homosexual student population, the sexually active student population, as well as the drug-addicted student population. He's basically saying by pulling this book from the shelves is that any student that falls into this category isn't worthwhile. And to be honest I think most students around 11th grade are quietly questioning their options but are waiting until they are off to college before they begin experimenting. but as far as being sexually active goes, it doesnt shock me a bit to hear that 12 year olds are becoming sexually active. Most if not all students have had sex by age 14 or 15 at least. I'm willing to bet that 90% of high school students are not virgins when they graduate high school.
 
It is a very sad commentary on our society that children are "sexually active"--that is, fornicating, and we aren't even shocked by that. It's heartbreaking. :(
 
Reba said:
It is a very sad commentary on our society that children are "sexually active"--that is, fornicating, and we aren't even shocked by that. It's heartbreaking. :(
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Why is it heart-breaking? Humans have been fornicating since the institution of marriage was ever created. It's just more talked about nowadays.
 
CJB said:
Why is it heart-breaking? Humans have been fornicating since the institution of marriage was ever created. It's just more talked about nowadays.
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That's what is heart-breaking. That adults believe it's OK for children to be sexually involved with each other.
 
CJB said:
Why is it heart-breaking? Humans have been fornicating since the institution of marriage was ever created. It's just more talked about nowadays.
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People have been fornicating before the insitution of marraige was ever created. People have been fornicating since the beginning of male and female. It isn't a matter at all of whether it is "okay" or not. It is simply a matter of being realistic. It happens, whether one gives their approval or not.
 
jillio said:
People have been fornicating before the insitution of marraige was ever created. People have been fornicating since the beginning of male and female. It isn't a matter at all of whether it is "okay" or not. It is simply a matter of being realistic. It happens, whether one gives their approval or not.
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Oh, I was going by the "sex before marriage" definition of fornicating, in which it would only be possible once "marriage" was defined. But in the sense of having sex at a young age, you're absolutely right.
 
CJB said:
Oh, I was going by the "sex before marriage" definition of fornicating, in which it would only be possible once "marriage" was defined. But in the sense of having sex at a young age, you're absolutely right.
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Ahhh...gotcha. I thought, after I posted, that was probably your perspective. I was just pointing out that sex never has been, nor is it now, something that is dependent upon wedding vows. To think that, at any time in human history, sex has not occured outside of marraige is terribly naive.
 
jillio said:
Ahhh...gotcha. I thought, after I posted, that was probably your perspective. I was just pointing out that sex never has been, nor is it now, something that is dependent upon wedding vows. To think that, at any time in human history, sex has not occured outside of marraige is terribly naive.
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Tell me about it.
 
Since marriage has been around since the first couple was created, any people having sex with persons other than their spouses were either fornicating or commiting adultery.

Regardless, it is the innocent children I'm concerned about. I stand by my statement that it's a sad commentary on a society that is no longer shocked when their children are "sexually active."
 
Reba said:
Since marriage has been around since the first couple was created, any people having sex with persons other than their spouses were either fornicating or commiting adultery.
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Can we get a source on this?
 
Reba said:
Since marriage has been around since the first couple was created, any people having sex with persons other than their spouses were either fornicating or commiting adultery.

Regardless, it is the innocent children I'm concerned about. I stand by my statement that it's a sad commentary on a society that is no longer shocked when their children are "sexually active."
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Hmmm....not exactly. In order for a marraige to be marraige, it has to be civilly recognized. That is why the sects that practice polygamy have only one recognized marraige, despite their claims of many spiritual unions.

Children who are having sex are not nearly so innocent as you might think. Nor do they need instruction from books in order to figure it out.
 
CJB said:
I think I have a pretty good idea of the answer. Thanks for the offer though.

:whistle:
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Exactly. And because this country doesn't endorse any specific religion, and the citizens are members of various religions, we cannot adopt the views of one religion in deciding what is acceptable reading material for all.
 
eh in few years time, things considered taboo right now in schools probably would be the norm later on.

looking at our history.... it'll change and people are always going to have an opinion what is right and wrong.

I really don't see a difference between explaining the war stories in graphic detail than a sexual adventure, drug experiences and whatnot. War kills, drugs kill, even sex kills, same goes for the positive aspects of the war, the drugs, the sex.

they're all the same in the end its all about human experiences and living history every second of our lives

I really feel bad for the son of that complaining father. Poor guy probably gotta go thru some flak for what his father is upset about. I understand parents got the rights and if they dont like how the school is run then they can might as well homeschool their children and shelter the kid from the reality of the world.
 
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Reba said:
It is a very sad commentary on our society that children are "sexually active"--that is, fornicating, and we aren't even shocked by that. It's heartbreaking. :(
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I agree completely Reba that comment just exact how I felt but then I had to step back and think about our real world history.

Do you realize how many kids are "interested" in showing their parts to the opposite gender? it's all about "learning" why they're different than the boys or the girls whatever it is.

Kids were having kids a couple hundred years ago, it was widely accepted :shock: look at our brides ages and our grooms ages in some situations. History isn't dainty and pretty- they just make it nice and pretty in our schools so we're not :shock:our innocent children.

Kids mimic and learn what their parents do its a given. What do you think kids saw at night when their parents thought they were sleeping in the tents, in the one bedroom cabin, hut, wagon, outdoors and whatnot all over the world's history?
 
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