Ever own a poisonous species?

rockin'robin said:
I'm parnoid of brown recluse spiders...and they like dark places...so I took the doors off all our closets :lol:...and always smack my shoes together several times before putting them on...
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Same here, brown recluse spiders are most scariest spider that I had seen, so I have seen some people lost limb because of bite from brown recluse.

There is no brown recluse spider in our house, nor in our subdivision, however Alabama is in brown recluse spider territory, so some areas are infested with those spiders, especially deaf school.

For me, it is easy to identify the brown recluse spider.
 
Foxrac said:
I believe climate change is man made and we have very strong evidence about global warming, so you can find it over the internet.

I'm not going continue to argue about climate change due to different philosophies. Instead of ruin the point of thread, I'm going to move on.
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I haven't seen any strong evidence..... and I minored in geography...
 
Foxrac said:
Well, they can flock to your home and hide it - they are very reclusive. They can hide in your suitcase if you are in Texas and bring to New Jersey.

Missouri and Kansas are colder but they are nothing to brown recluse spiders because they hide very deeper, especially in the houses.

I learned about they won't survive in extreme heat, so the global warming will transform our state into extreme heat, especially summer.
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not really. that's really far-fetched.
 
Jiro said:
I haven't seen any strong evidence..... and I minored in geography...
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There are a lot of evidences on wikipedia and internet, so you have to look for that.
 
Jiro said:
not really. that's really far-fetched.
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The article that I posted say it is possible due to climate change.

Not believe? Not my problem. Tell to someone who published the article.

2050 is very long time from now, though.
 
Foxrac said:
The article that I posted say it is possible due to climate change.

Not believe? Not my problem. Tell to someone who posted the article.

2050 is very long time from now, though.
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you misunderstood the article. in fact, it did not even say what you've just said.

We delineate range boundaries and demonstrate that under future climate change scenarios, the spider's distribution may expand northward, invading previously unaffected regions of the USA, reads the article.
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The authors of the article aim to spread knowledge of the brown recluse's distribution, so that medical professionals are better prepared to diagnose its bite.
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and author's background
Ryan Villarreal reports on foreign affairs with a focus on Latin America. He also covers human rights and environmental issues worldwide.

A native of the San Francisco Bay Area, he grew up with temperate, dry summers and rainy, green winters, but has taken a liking to the four seasons experienced in the Northeast.

He holds an M.S. degree from Columbia University's Graduate School of Journalism.
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did I mention that I minored in geography? not journalism... that means I have a pretty good scientific understanding of "climate change" and the truth behind "global warming".

You will not find any single statement from experts and scientific community saying that there is a direct correlation between "global warming" and mankind.
 
Foxrac said:
There are a lot of evidences on wikipedia and internet, so you have to look for that.
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I don't need to because I already have an academic background in it. I've learned all these stuff from the real experts, not wikipedia or internet.

since you're getting your info from wikipedia or internet.... like what my professors warned - these sources contain inaccurate information and/or many people easily misunderstood these information.

FACT - global warming is an unusual phenomenon. there is no direct correlation that it is caused by men. none whatsoever. what's been acknowledged is that there is a climate change going on and that we need to take care of our environment and surroundings.
 
Jiro said:
FACT - global warming is an unusual phenomenon. there is no direct correlation that it is caused by men. none whatsoever. what's been acknowledged is that there is a climate change going on and that we need to take care of our environment and surroundings.
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This is almost exactly what I said to the "Save The Bay" people when they asked "Why are you volunteering if you don't believe in man made global warming?"

I also added "I am here because there is trash that needs to be picked up, I don't need an over baked conspiracy theory to convince me to do it."

They actually appreciated that. They also liked me because I am stronger than the rest of the mom jeans wearing hippies and they needed someone to row the boat! :lol:
 
Jiro said:
you misunderstood the article. in fact, it did not even say what you've just said.

and author's background

did I mention that I minored in geography? not journalism... that means I have a pretty good scientific understanding of "climate change" and the truth behind "global warming".

You will not find any single statement from experts and scientific community saying that there is a direct correlation between "global warming" and mankind.
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first paragraph - oh well, that's okay, it is about scenarios so we will see.

last paragraph - keyword is philosophies.

Based on your logic, there will be no fixes to stop the climate change or threaten to the land. (sink due to sea level increase)

Based on person's logic about climate change related to man made - the fixes will be reduce the CO2 and plant more trees to absorb the trees, and watch any climate change goes stable or not. (If not stable then this logic is failure)

I chose to believe that climate change is fairly related to man made.
 
Jiro said:
I don't need to because I already have an academic background in it. I've learned all these stuff from the real experts, not wikipedia or internet.

since you're getting your info from wikipedia or internet.... like what my professors warned - these sources contain inaccurate information and/or many people easily misunderstood these information.

FACT - global warming is an unusual phenomenon. there is no direct correlation that it is caused by men. none whatsoever. what's been acknowledged is that there is a climate change going on and that we need to take care of our environment and surroundings.
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In bold, It means we have to reduce the CO2 to take care of environment and surrounding to keep climate from changing? Yes or No
 
Foxrac said:
first paragraph - oh well, that's okay, it is about scenarios so we will see.

last paragraph - keyword is philosophies.
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what? philosophies???

Foxrac said:
Based on your logic, there will be no fixes to stop the climate change or threaten to the land. (sink due to sea level increase)
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nope. incorrect.

Earth is not under threat. it never was. the only threat is asteroid coming our way or alien invasion :lol:

the only thing that is under threat is human. Earth does not care if sea level is rising or if it has gotten hotter. Earth does not care at all because it has been here for billions of years and humans has been here for what? a mere hundred thousands years?

remember what Darwin's all about? adaptation. whatever's happening in this world... we humans can either adapt or die. simple as that. if the sea level is increasing, then we'll just climb higher or build a sea city. if we can't adapt, then we die.

Foxrac said:
Based on person's logic about climate change related to man made - the fixes will be reduce the CO2 and plant more trees to absorb the trees, and watch any climate change goes stable or not. (If not stable then this logic is failure)

I chose to believe that climate change is fairly related to man made.
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incorrect.

there is a direct correlation with human's impact on environment.... it's at micro-level.... meaning - during rush hour in LA, there will be a smog... at evening, the smog will clear out.

at macro-level.... there's no direct correlation with human's impact on world.. meaning - 7 billion people is far too tiny to even cause an impact like global warming on this huge planet. it's like saying an ant colony in playground is having a direct impact on entire state.

planting more trees will help your local area but it won't do much for entire planet unless we wipe out trees from an entire continent.
 
Foxrac said:
In bold, It means we have to reduce the CO2 to take care of environment and surrounding to keep climate from changing? Yes or No
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nope. not at all. nothing has to do with that.
 
Jiro said:
eh *shrug*

our cold weather will just kill them off.
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Thats why we cant keep having mild winters. I know it is nice to have them but they invite these spiders, then lets have subzero winters!
 
shel90 said:
Thats why we cant keep having mild winters. I know it is nice to have them but they invite these spiders, then lets have subzero winters!
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these spiders are extremely sensitive to environmental change and cannot survive here at all even in mild winters.

even if you catch a few spiders and release them here... it'll just die. that's why scary poisonous spiders are limited to few southern states. I'm glad they're not very adaptive and persistent like mosquitos and cockroaches.
 
Jiro said:
these spiders are extremely sensitive to environmental change and cannot survive here at all even in mild winters.

even if you catch a few spiders and release them here... it'll just die. that's why scary poisonous spiders are limited to few southern states. I'm glad they're not very adaptive and persistent like mosquitos and cockroaches.
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Brown recluse spiders are harder to colonize and they will die after go outside of dominant territory. During Dust Bowl era, many people move to California and they have brown recluse spiders that hidden in furnitures and the boxes, however they didn't colonized the region, but only infest one place (one house). There are different species of reclusive, so specify for brown recluse spiders in southeastern states and midwestern states are "reclusa". Most of Florida isn't one of them because of harder to colonize so they are limited to those region that I gave above.
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There was one documentaries on Animal Planet about one house in North Indiana is infested with a lot of brown recluse spiders, so it was very unusual movement because North Indiana wasn't part of their territory but it was possible for previous family (from southern state) induced the brown recluse spiders to infest one house, so moved out and left one house as infested.

You could get one if you order furnitures or transport the boxes from southern states, so you have to inspect those stuff to eradicate those spiders before they infest your place.
 
but notice with 'global warming' we're also getting COLDER and nastier snow storms...cold winters, and not to mention COLD springs , often with late summers,,,global warming? hardly but "global hastened weather swishing" definitely yes!
 
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Having such a warm winter in FL the past few years. I am sure the released non native species are miltiplying like crazy. I remember 4 years ago it gotten so cold in South Fl that Inguanas were falling from trees.
 
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