Does Society Treat the Blind any different and the Deaf?

Hear Again said:
You're entitled to your opinion Aleser, but I don't consider any of those things as being a hassle.
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I don't think dogs are at all an inferior option- I'm just saying that they're too much work for me right now. Sorry if my slight humor came off as rude.
 
Aleser said:
I don't think dogs are at all an inferior option- I'm just saying that they're too much work for me right now. Sorry if my slight humor came off as rude.
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completely understandable. some people just simply don't like dogs. Maybe you are a cat type.. or maybe not lol.
 
Wokamuka said:
No one need say that but too many give the impression that I am (even, one, suggesteed that I was a lowly janitor).

Don't backtrack.
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which is why i said "I kid... I kid..."
 
No problem, Aleser! :) I guess i had a little difficulty interpreting the tone of your message which is probably why I took it in the manner that I did. I completely understand and respect your decision not to use a dog. At least I give you credit for acknowledging that instead of being trained with a dog you will never use.
 
Wokamuka, I can understand the "fight or flight" syndrome that you may or may not be struggling with.

I only have to ask you to really consider how you word your sentences when you claim to be a former employee of the NFB.

So far, your actions here really badly reflect off the NFB.
 
Mrs Bucket said:
Wokamuka, I can understand the "fight or flight" syndrome that you may or may not be struggling with.

I only have to ask you to really consider how you word your sentences when you claim to be a former employee of the NFB.

So far, your actions here really badly reflect off the NFB.
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Exactly, Mrs. Bucket.
 
I was consider about get a guide dog in future. I am not ready for it yet. I never experience with guide dog before.
 
~♥~Pinky~♥~ said:
I was consider about get a guide dog in future. I am not ready for it yet. I never experience with guide dog before.
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You need excellent white cane skills before any respectable guide dog school will glance at your application.

Since you're in complete denial about being deafblind.. I'm going to guess you're still not agreeable to O&M.. it makes much more sense to travel unsafely, or better yet, hide in the house after sunset. Completely rational.
 
I agree with Aleser.

If I were you Pinky, I'd contact your vocational rehabilitation counselor (if you have one) and ask where you can receive O&M training.

One thing that's important for you to understand is that traveling with a guide dog is *much* different than traveling with a cane.

For instance, with a guide dog, you don't have as many landmarks available to you which means you have to learn how to interpret your dog's movements in harness as well as the tactile characteristics of the ground underneath your feet. With a cane, you can at least come into direct contact with objects to find out what they are, but with a guide dog, you are virtually traveling in space since you have no tactual way of finding landmarks except by giving your dog the "find it" command (i.e. find the chair, find the counter, find the door, find the curb, etc.) and/or knowing what landmarks are near you according to the route your dog travels (i.e. left-right, right-left, left-right-left, right-left-right, etc.).

If you don't mind my asking, how do you travel now? Do you use sighted guide? How do you cross streets safely? Are you able to see traffic lights?
 
Hear Again said:
I agree with Aleser.

If I were you Pinky, I'd contact your vocational rehabilitation counselor (if you have one) and ask where you can receive O&M training.

One thing that's important for you to understand is that traveling with a guide dog is *much* different than traveling with a cane.

For instance, with a guide dog, you don't have as many landmarks available to you which means you have to learn how to interpret your dog's movements in harness as well as the tactile characteristics of the ground underneath your feet. With a cane, you can at least come into direct contact with objects to find out what they are, but with a guide dog, you are virtually traveling in space since you have no tactual way of finding landmarks except by giving your dog the "find it" command (i.e. find the chair, find the counter, find the door, find the curb, etc.) and/or knowing what landmarks are near you according to the route your dog travels (i.e. left-right, right-left, left-right-left, right-left-right, etc.).

If you don't mind my asking, how do you travel now? Do you use sighted guide? How do you cross streets safely? Are you able to see traffic lights?
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yep. i dont think i could ever have a dog. i need my landmarks. I tried that once.
 
typeingtornado19 said:
yep. i dont think i could ever have a dog. i need my landmarks. I tried that once.
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Did you? Out of curiosity, what guide dog school did you go to? I received both of my dogs from Leader Dogs for the Blind in Rochester Hills, Michigan since they had a trainer on staff who knew sign and specifically worked with the deafblind.

Incidentally, I also had the same trainer both times. What surprised me about that was the fact he gave me an extremely hyper dog (a 65 pound golden retriever named "Sugar") the first time and a calm, laid back, mellow dog (a 45 pound yellow lab named "Tigger") the second time. Go figure! :giggle:
 
Hear Again said:
Did you? Out of curiosity, what guide dog school did you go to? I received both of my dogs from Leader Dogs for the Blind in Rochester Hills, Michigan since they had a trainer on staff who knew sign and specifically worked with the deafblind.

Incidentally, I also had the same trainer both times. What surprised me about that was the fact he gave me an extremely hyper dog (a 65 pound golden retriever named "Sugar") the first time and a calm, laid back, mellow dog (a 45 pound yellow lab named "Tigger") the second time. Go figure! :giggle:
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i didnt. they had a thing at an NFB convention. it was cool. but i need a cane for landmarks. plus my mom loves dogs way too much and if i had one harness or not she would be all over it.
 
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