Does religion really matter?

[Cheri]

Oh God can't defeat Satan. Satan has more power than God does, did you know that?

No Satan does not have more power than God. God even took away some of Satan's power after Jesus died on the cross for us.

Where it says that Satan is a "fallen angel" in the scripture?, prove me please..

No problem!! Lucifer aka Satan’s fall from heaven is described in (Isaiah 14:12)

"How art thou afallen from bheaven, O cLucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the dnations!"

 

[GarnetTigerMom]

Dinosaurs were around when Adam and Eve were around, In bible (Genesis 1:29-30) the animals God created were vegetarians. When Adam rebelled against God bringing sin into the world, they all got kicked out of the Garden of Eden. Dinosaurs die on their own, God did not kill them.

Funny to mention the dinosaurs, And yeah that true the were here first on earth but they sure were not listed in the bible. But the a giant asteroid crashed into the coast of Mexico nearly 65 million years ago. That what really killed the dinosaurs.

 

[Cheri]

WTF? No they die out due to asteriod impact. If Dinosaurs are still roaming on the earth, I dont think human would surivive unless God send fireball to earth to wipe out dinosaurs to allow human civilization to grow.

I don't believe Dinosaurs died from asteriod impact, It was never prove as accurate. It's a mystery on how Dinosaurs really had died.

 

[Boult]

Question:

What do some people beleive about religion?

How do you think God feels about what religion have done during war time?

How do you feel that many people kill each other due their different religion belief?

Did God accept people´s form of religion?

Were the religious leaders who were trying to kill Jesus worship God?

What about the hundreds of religion at present time?

Do you agree that those religion are false?

How do you know worship to God in the way to be acceptance?

Do you really beleive that the church is acceptance to God?

How do you know that your religion´s bible is correct ?

see my post;
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[lumbingmi]

I don't believe Dinosaurs died from asteriod impact, It was never prove as accurate. It's a mystery on how Dinosaurs really had died.

Are u kidding me? How MANY huge creatures could die in one swoon fall? It take reallly mass destruction to wipe out nearly all HUGE creatures and it has been proved that dinosaurs were wiped by asteroid among scientists community. I think i ll take their words over your word.

By the way, if you believe that fossils are real then you should know that the age of dinosaurs' fossils are in same period or years.

 

[Cheri]

Are u kidding me? How MANY huge creatures could die in one swoon fall? It take reallly mass destruction to wipe out nearly all HUGE creatures and it has been proved that dinosaurs were wiped by asteroid among scientists community. I think i ll take their words over your word.

By the way, if you believe that fossils are real then you should know that the age of dinosaurs' fossils are in same period or years.

I never claimed that you should take my word for it, I'm just stating on what I believe. Ok?

And second of all anyone can make a mistake even scientists so do I trust everything scientists says? no.

 

[VamPyroX]

Religion is simply a form of worship or belief that people have in a god or gods.

There's "God", "Buddha", "Allah", etc... but who is the real god?

What if there's actually more than one god? What if there is no god?

If we look at history... there are Roman gods, Greek gods, Indian gods, Mayan gods, etc.

What if they are simply forms of advanced beings from other planets, the future, or people who simply had advanced knowledge of technology.

Magic is misunderstood or unknown technology.

Suppose I go back and meet a caveman. I simply pull out a lighter and light it up. *gasps* I'm now labeled as a Fire God! A religion has been born!

 

[Liebling:-)))]

for post to share your interesting POV on my thread here. I am going to quote the question of my thread first before quote part of your posts later.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Question:

I already answered those question in my post #3. All for that I quoted each question to answer.

What do some people beleive about religion?

Well, the people are being brainwashed to become kind of religion because they think one of many bibles are right and true for them. If they are happy what they are then is good for them.

How do you think God feels about what religion have done during war time?

Why should God feel about those religion war because he has nothing do with those war but the people themselves!!!

How do you feel that many people kill each other due their different religion belief?

Very sad - Religion is mainly blame why they kill/hate each other... .

Did God accept people´s form of religion?

No, God has nothing do with religion but the people themselves who created form of religion.

Were the religious leaders who were trying to kill Jesus worship God?

Yes

What about the hundreds of religion at present time?

Unfortunlately yes, they choose kind of religion what they think is right for them and beleive their bible are true.

Do you agree that those religion are false?

No, I don't want to agree that those religion are false but respect their choice of become religion believers.

How do you know worship to God in the way to be acceptance?

I only know that worship God EVERYWHERE, not in the church or worship idols, etc.

Do you really beleive that the church is acceptance to God?

Accord my bible - No.

How do you know that your religion´s bible is correct ?

That's why I can't answer to this question because I don't know which bible of different religion is correct but collect different bibles and repsect their beleif when I beleive different as them. I beleive in reality.

 

[Secretblend]

Funny to mention the dinosaurs, And yeah that true the were here first on earth but they sure were not listed in the bible. But the a giant asteroid crashed into the coast of Mexico nearly 65 million years ago. That what really killed the dinosaurs.

Number 1: Carbon dating is flawed.

THE PROBLEMS WITH CARBON-14 DATING

Number 2: Dinosaurs were mentioned in the Bible.

Are Dinosaurs in the Bible? Behemoth Dinosaur Creation Evolution

Are u kidding me? How MANY huge creatures could die in one swoon fall? It take reallly mass destruction to wipe out nearly all HUGE creatures and it has been proved that dinosaurs were wiped by asteroid among scientists community. I think i ll take their words over your word.

By the way, if you believe that fossils are real then you should know that the age of dinosaurs' fossils are in same period or years.

Please provide proof that the scientist has of dinosuars being killed by asteroids.

 

[Reba]

What about the dinosaurs that God destroyed?

Since the day that sin entered the world thru the disobedience of Adam and Eve, death has been present in the world.

Millions upon millions of people and animals have died since that time for all kinds of reasons.

We should thank God that He planned a long time ago for the dinosaurs to die. That's how we have our petroleum now, right?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I guess I am going to answer as best as I can.

I appreciate your honest POV on this each question.

Some people feel like their religion was a truth for them, and some of them feel need something to be faith into, which makes them to have a religion. That's my opinion..

Yes, it depend on people's feeling. If they choose to positive their belief then is good for them.

I don't know about God's view about the wars, even God himself had war before. So I don't know about that...

Your answer is an exactly because God didn't ask for war - none of bibles mention war... but the people themselves .

They absolutely have no respect!

Therefore yes, they fighting over their belief and think their belief are right and other belief are wrong...

Yes, believe it or not. There are many of people (especially Islam) who believe God which are against Christinaity is because they believe that the old testament is God's final word and the New Testament are just a man making it up, which was Jesus. Please correct me if I was wrong on this one.

Check my post # 6 - how religion started.

Yea, there are. They are just the religion that people feel like whichever was right for them.

Well accusing other religion that they are all wrong, false teaching, bullshit, etc are not really my thing..

I don't worship to God, or anyone, nor anything.

Well I don't know about that.. JW believe Christianity are wrong, and Christianity believe JW are wrong, Mormon believe JW are wrong, etc etc while they all use the same book so I don't know which was right.

Exactly

By my own heart, but to the Dharma, not the bible

You stand what you beleive in is great!

 

[Reba]

...how does one know their religion is right and so on.

By not depending on a "religion" but having a personal relationship with the LORD of the universe. After establishing a relationship with the LORD thru salvation, then the Holy Spirit will guide one to fellow believers and good Bible preaching and teaching.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

These false religions brainwashed many people, but this true religion does not.

Do you mean that your belief is true religion and other religions are false?

You pick up: The ACCURACY or the CORRUPT -- which Bible do you prefer?

Why should I pick when I don't know which correct bibles are?

Why do you think JW is true?

I never said that JW is true. I only use them as an example that the people who have different beliefs and said each other that their bibles are wrong/right.

Yes, the Bible is FACTUAL history. The Old Testament tells you about the history of Jews only. The New Testament tells you about Jesus and YOU, even the church. Remember that ALL the people is under the Bible.

Yes, I know and do not against OT and NT. I only need to focus the reality because it's interesting to know why they have OT and NT... I still have bibles here with me. I accept the bibles and never say that the bible is bad. If I say the bible is bad then I would throw bible away to trash but I didn't. I still read the bible sometimes. I would accept the bibles from ANY religions because I am interesting to know what they beleive in as long as they respect my belief as the same as I respect their belief as well.

I can see difference between OT and NT. At OT, God is cruel and at NT God is loving.

Why are you interested in different religions MORE than the Bible?

Just one bible? No, there're many bibles of different religion authors. I see why not to collect any religion beliefs's view why they beleive different as our belief. Is it forbidden to share different religions who beleive their own bibles than our belief?

I thought you have a religion is Christianity? Please correct if I am mistake. Your post sound that you don't have any religion?

I don't have any religion myself but neutral to any religions.

 

[Reba]

Weak people need something to believe in. Weak people like to be led rather than taking their own actions. Weak people are afraid of what will happen to them afterlife. Weak people are easily brainwashed. Weak people are perfect candidate for zealots, leaders, or prophet.

So yes religion does matter.

Nice try. No one likes to be called "weak", so it would seem to be an effective slam.

However:

All humans are weak. That's why we easily fall into temptation, and why we depend on pride to carry us thru.

Admitting our short comings and overcoming pride, peer pressure and mockings requires strength of character.


II Corinthians 12
9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

II Corinthians 13
3 Since ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me, which to you-ward is not weak, but is mighty in you. 4 For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you.

Philippians 4
13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.


People who trust God and know the teachings in the Bible are the hardest to "brainwash" and lead astray. They aren't afraid of "the after life" or opposition.

It's the people who don't have a firm foundation in Christ who are easily led by false prophets (religious, philosophical, political).

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Not only that, but others as well..

Yes, that's right. It's more than just Noah Ark.

 

[Cheri]

Yes, that's right. It's more than just Noah Ark.

Where's your source?

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Question:

for answer each interesting question.

I was used to attend the church, Christians and Pastor said to me that The church will save christians and even rapture them after church destory by the wicked world. Thats why christians had been brianwashed by pastor. sad *sigh*

Yes, I remember you mentioned many posts in different religion threads why you are a former Christian.

Yeah

No, I don't think so God feel about situation's war times. People created the religion done during war times. look at Islam, Followers and Islam leader made war against jews and even against christian followers. Like Germany and catholic created religion to made war against jews who live in gremany.

EXACTLY

Oh Definitely True!

Mmmm..

To me, Yes the religion jewish leaders were trying to kill him which worship God.

Yes, that's right.

I never thought of this question you bring up.

I respect other religion's own, which is not my things.

Exactly, its about respect each other but I see nothing wrong when we debated agree to disagree in respectfully way.

Like Abel and Cain's story in Genesis 4 chapter.

I will check Genesis 4 chapter when I am home from work.

To me, I don't. Most christans said that the church is acceptance to God and serve God.

Yes, same with me as well but I can't say anything against if Christian beleive in what they think is right. We can't change them but themselves.

I don't have any religion nor church goers. I am biblical believer only.

Yes, same with me as well but can you care to explain me what exact bibical beleiver? which bible belongs to non-religion if you say that you don't have religion.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Where's your source?

How many has God killed? (Complete list and estimated total) « flux 64

 

[Reba]

Funny to mention the dinosaurs, And yeah that true the were here first on earth but they sure were not listed in the bible. But the a giant asteroid crashed into the coast of Mexico nearly 65 million years ago. That what really killed the dinosaurs.

Yes, dinosaurs are described in the Bible. Yes, they were created the day before Man was. Most died during the Flood but some survived on the Ark or in the ocean. There were still dinosaurs walking the earth at the time of Job because they are described in his book. We find many dinosaur fossils now because their bodies were quickly covered by the mud produced by the Flood.