Does it annoy you when you cannot pronouce something?

dogmom said:
oh, :ty:for understanding topic sidetrack.. and very much, HA, for explaining!:D

Very intriguing about Braile... is there anyone who still uses that Grade 1 and half system? Can a person choose to stay on with one level or another as opposed to moving up through the levels or is that just impractical <say for example only kids books are done in Grade 1 and the person is in her 40's and has no need developmentally of using a children level book?>
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You're welcome. :)

Grade 1 1/2 isn't used much anymore, but I would think that those who were brought up in the 50s and 60s still use it unless they learned Grade II Braille instead.

Blind children are usually taught Grade I Braille and then Grade II.

Blind adults are always taught the alphabet first and then proceed to Grade II. The only exception would be if a person has no interest in reading in which case they would only learn the alphabet for labeling purposes.

Almost all children's books are written in Grade II Braille. They have an awesome type of book called "Twin Vision Books" which have print on one page and a clear overlay of Braille with tactile graphics on the other. This is a wonderful way for sighted parents to read to their blind children or for blind parents to read to their sighted children. I wish I would have had something like that when I was growing up! :cool2:
 
i find it hard to say sandwich for some reason i just dunno how to say it so I usually just say butty
 
"Butty?" <confused> Is that another word for sandwich?

When I say the word sandwich, everyone says I pronounce it as sanwish. Oh well.
 
Yes Its another word for sandwich. if I say sandwich its feels so weird. I usually say samwich or sanwich
 
DeafLissa90 said:
i find it hard to say sandwich for some reason i just dunno how to say it so I usually just say butty
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Try saying it as sand + which, does that make it easier?

some people don't say the d so its just sounds like san + which.


You could try either witch or which for the second part. But if you use witch, the t sounds almost invisible so you gotta say it quickly.
 
DeafLissa90 said:
Yes Its another word for sandwich. if I say sandwich its feels so weird. I usually say samwich or sanwich
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That's a difficult word to pronounce. In my case, I think it has to do with the fact that I can't pronounce words containing the letter "S" or "R" very well. Now that I have CIs, I can hear myself just fine, but I can't pronounce those letters for the life of me.
 
naisho said:
You could try either witch or which for the second part. But if you use witch, the t sounds almost invisible so you gotta say it quickly.
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What do you mean by pronouncing the letter "T" quickly? I don't understand.
 
naisho,

The female speaker seems to say the word slower than the male speaker. Is that what you were trying to explain to Lissa? If so, what you said makes perfect sense. :ty:
 
naisho said:
Try saying it as sand + which, does that make it easier?

some people don't say the d so its just sounds like san + which.


You could try either witch or which for the second part. But if you use witch, the t sounds almost invisible so you gotta say it quickly.
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"Sounds invisible?":giggle:
 
Hear Again said:
What do you mean by pronouncing the letter "T" quickly? I don't understand.
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Invisible, like it's not there.
My way of expressing it is, when something is invisible, it's not there, right?
Or I could say silent, but I fancy the invisible term myself. ;)
 
naisho said:
Invisible, like it's not there.
My way of expressing it is, when something is invisible, it's not there, right?
Or I could say silent, but I fancy the invisible term myself. ;)
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If you would have said silent instead of invisible, I would have understood exactly what you meant because I've never heard the latter being used to describe a sound. That being said, it makes sense given the meaning of the word -- I've just never heard of it expressed that way before.

:ty: for the explanation. :)
 
I still pronounce lot my consonant clusters soft, so my "sandwich" can come out "sandwish", that was another area of extreme difficulty which the speech therapy was supposed to work on-
 
Hear Again said:
If you would have said silent instead of invisible, I would have understood exactly what you meant because I've never heard the latter being used to describe a sound. That being said, it makes sense given the meaning of the word -- I've just never heard of it expressed that way before.

:ty: for the explanation. :)
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No biggie, its all good.

I think when it comes to explaining things I always try the visual approach of explaining, because this is a deaf world and I am really visual type person. Not the politically correct type.

When I thought of silent, it makes no sense to say that to anyone who could be profound deaf, so instead when I thought of the word, invisible, it wasn't the "not able to be seen" or "deception to the eye". I was more thinking in line with the other meaning of "not prominent or readily noticeable".
 
mispronouncing stuff can be a pain in the ass.

like mispronounced the a friends wife's name. Ashley to ASSley


yeah she had a big butt and took it as a malicious insult :lol:
 
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