DOD Asks: How Would You Feel Showering With Gays?

CJB said:
Money doesn't remove social outlooks. It's an invalid question.
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Not sure of that.

Alexander the Great faced a situation where racial tension was extreme. His solution? To give "mixed" marriage couple a house and five years of no taxation.

It was another successful campaign for him.
 
It would be nice if the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy was removed, but I seriously doubt it will happen during this administration. I think we should be a nation that protects individual freedoms while also being a moral nation that enforces proper conduct. We can protect your personal freedom to marry a same-sex spouse, but we also ask that you conduct yourself morally in such that we don't want to see you getting hot and heavy in the mall, etc. The same moral standard that one would expect of a heterosexual couple. JMHO.
 
Steinhauer said:
the issue is forcing someone to accept something they do not see as moral. It is infringement.

You may not have a problem with it, but someone else may have religious issues.
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Don't you get that forcing gays to be closeted is also imposing one person's morals on another? It works both ways.

How would you feel if most people believed your religion is immoral? And if they wanted to force you to never talk about it, not indicate in anyway that you believe in it? How would you feel if you had to either not observe your religious practices or had to do so in secret with the risk of losing your job or being socially ostracized? How would you like if anyone could have their religion accepted by the state, could benefit from tax breaks, insurance benefits, and the social recognition of their beliefs except you? How would that make you feel?
 
Berry said:
Not sure of that.

Alexander the Great faced a situation where racial tension was extreme. His solution? To give "mixed" marriage couple a house and five years of no taxation.

It was another successful campaign for him.
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That's more than just money though. That's people moving in with each other. But hey, that's not a bad idea. Maybe we should give tax breaks to anyone who moves in with a gay, lesbian, bi, or trans person. :giggle:
 
Dixie said:
It would be nice if the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy was removed, but I seriously doubt it will happen during this administration. I think we should be a nation that protects individual freedoms while also being a moral nation that enforces proper conduct. We can protect your personal freedom to marry a same-sex spouse, but we also ask that you conduct yourself morally in such that we don't want to see you getting hot and heavy in the mall, etc. The same moral standard that one would expect of a heterosexual couple. JMHO.
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Well, duh. I don't think gay people are asking en masse for the right to engage in public sexual activities.

Although I must say it would be nice if all heterosexuals practiced that standard as well.
 
The implied question here is "are you comfortable with your own sexuality?"

I've got no problem with lesbians in the locker room. I do catch older boys peeking in the women's locker room on occasion, and I tell them to stop it because they need to learn appropriate boundaries.
 
Steinhauer said:
the issue is forcing someone to accept something they do not see as moral. It is infringement.

You may not have a problem with it, but someone else may have religious issues.
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but.... many soldiers have something that other soldiers may have religious issues with like death penalty, abortion, premarital sex, etc and yet..... they shower together.
 
Exactly, sallylou. It is much ado about nothing, really.
 
sallylou said:
The implied question here is "are you comfortable with your own sexuality?"

I've got no problem with lesbians in the locker room. .
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Ditto......I too have no problem showering with Lesbians!
 
Personally, I'm not comfortable sharing shower facilities with anyone other than Hubby. I felt that way in high school and when I was on active duty in the Navy, during which times I wasn't a Christian, so it had nothing to do with religion. Sometimes we had "open bay" showers; that is, no separate stalls. Ugh!

I prefer private clean-up and prep time.
 
Reba said:
Personally, I'm not comfortable sharing shower facilities with anyone other than Hubby. I felt that way in high school and when I was on active duty in the Navy, during which times I wasn't a Christian, so it had nothing to do with religion. Sometimes we had "open bay" showers; that is, no separate stalls. Ugh!

I prefer private clean-up and prep time.
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it's the cultural thing. In America - they're very private about it. They prefer privacy and private bathroom.

In Asia and Europe (probably especially Greece/Italy) - it's shared but separated by gender - a very common activity especially at spa and public bath facility. I don't have a problem being naked and bathing in a facility full of naked men. I did that at spa in NYC last year and in Korea when I was little.
 
Jiro said:
it's the cultural thing. In America - they're very private about it. They prefer privacy and private bathroom.

In Asia and Europe (probably especially Greece/Italy) - it's shared but separated by gender - a very common activity especially at spa and public bath facility. I don't have a problem being naked and bathing in a facility full of naked men. I did that at spa in NYC last year and in Korea when I was little.
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It reminds me of a story I heard, and I dunno if it is true or not. A businessman visited a friend in Japan, and to his surprise and embarrassment, the friend and his whole family joined him in a bath. There was a pretty Japanese daughter that sat next to him, and to make conversation, the man said "I hope you sit next to me at the dinner table." The daughter replied, "Oh, no, I couldn't. I do not know you well enough." It somehow rings true, lol.
 
Beowulf said:
It reminds me of a story I heard, and I dunno if it is true or not. A businessman visited a friend in Japan, and to his surprise and embarrassment, the friend and his whole family joined him in a bath. There was a pretty Japanese daughter that sat next to him, and to make conversation, the man said "I hope you sit next to me at the dinner table." The daughter replied, "Oh, no, I couldn't. I do not know you well enough." It somehow rings true, lol.
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joined him in the bath? hmmm..... you mean home bath?
 
Beowulf said:
Sorry. Home bath, lol.
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that is........ awkward. lol. I wasn't sure - the public bath (or spa) or home lol

can't imagine a whole family including daughter joining me at bath :ugh:
 
I changed into a swimsuit in front of my girlfriends who are straight, bi, and lesbains today...until this thread, I never gave much thought of it and to me, it is like "oh well.."
 
Yeah, shel, I used to skinnydip with practically hundreds of others. Where did they all go?
 
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