Disciplining the children

Well, the Bible also says that you should not beat your children. Technically, the Bible changed. The Old Testament favored beatings while the New Testament opposes beatings.
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Okay, first of all, there is a difference between “beating” and “spanking”. Second, could you please point out in the New Testament where it once says you should not physically discipline your children? I have been reading the bible since I was young and even went to a bible college where we were required to memorize verses throughout college, and yet I do not recall ever coming upon such a verse. Please substantiate your statement with proper documentation.

I only spank my children when they are openly defiant. Otherwise, other forms of discipline will suffice. I also discontinue spanking when I feel they are too mature for it (between 10-12 yrs of age). I doubt you will be seeing any of my children in a prison cell in the future, because they have respect for authority and fear for the consequences of their deviant behavior.
 
Eve said:
Okay, first of all, there is a difference between “beating” and “spanking”.

I only spank my children when they are openly defiant. Otherwise, other forms of discipline will suffice. I also discontinue spanking when I feel they are too mature for it (between 10-12 yrs of age). I doubt you will be seeing any of my children in a prison cell in the future, because they have respect for authority and fear for the consequences of their deviant behavior.
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I agree. I grew up with with spankings as a child, but my parents also imployed other forms of discipline as well, and we didn't end up hardened criminals. lol

However, spanking shouldn't be something you do as a matter of habit. If a child is openly defiant, and other forms of discipline haven't worked, then spanking may be called for. What we are really talking about here is respect, and if your three year old is openly defying you, you need to nip that in the bud then! Waiting until the child is 10 yr old is too late! By then, the kid may already be out of control.
 
My daughter get's spanked (which in our book is three swats on her diaper that NEVER even leave a mark) when she is doing something dangerous. Either to herself or others. She threw something at my friend's newborn and you better believe she got spanked. We never spank out of anger either.
 
i don't believe in spanking or beating kids... they'll just think its ok to do that to someone else because you're doing it,and they look up to you.
 
Eve said:
Okay, first of all, there is a difference between “beating” and “spanking”. Second, could you please point out in the New Testament where it once says you should not physically discipline your children? I have been reading the bible since I was young and even went to a bible college where we were required to memorize verses throughout college, and yet I do not recall ever coming upon such a verse. Please substantiate your statement with proper documentation.

I only spank my children when they are openly defiant. Otherwise, other forms of discipline will suffice. I also discontinue spanking when I feel they are too mature for it (between 10-12 yrs of age). I doubt you will be seeing any of my children in a prison cell in the future, because they have respect for authority and fear for the consequences of their deviant behavior.
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Our view is very similar to this. I agree spanking is a form of punishment mostly reserved for defiant behavour as well outright stupid acts (i.e., running out in the street without looking both ways...). A good parent doesn't need to use spanking very often (and as Eve stated you don't use it after a certain age - decided by parents). There are many ways to discipline children and parents have to tailor the discipline to the action. It is not easy to do as you have to keep your emotions out of it (as much it is possible) so that whatever you do...it (consequences) will be understood by the kids.

Eve makes another good point about doing this to help her kids not end up in jail at some point in the future. That is our reason as well. If kids don't understand that they must have respect for authority, they are much more likely to have problems in the future over this. Freedom is a two-edged sword. It doesn't mean that I'm can do what darn well please without concern how it effects others. Rather it means I have the freedom to do so many things along as it doesn't hurt somebody else and be responsible for my actions. Too many people today and children now growing up didn't grow up learning consequences for their actions and they (and others) are paying for it now. Just look at society today...so many stupid crimes over what? They didn't get their way...and decided to handle it in such a immature manner. **Shudder** Sounds like kids who never grew up and didn't have good parents to guide them.
 
I don't believe in spanking my kids. I was never spanked by my parents and I turned out very well self displicine.

Only time I ever got spanked by one teacher and counselors at residental school. It caused me to have some emotional problems.

One day my neighbor got in trouble for used twig to displince their kids cuz they were following the bible.
 
I was hit as a kid and i didn't turn out fine i'm scared that if i say no a guy is gonna hit me now so i don't believe in spanking or hitting for disapline i believe in creative alternitve ways comes with teaching kids who don't respond to yelling
 
Oh, believe me, I use extremely creative means of discipline. Spanking is generally as a last resort. Since my oldest daughter is beyond the age that I feel spanking is no longer acceptable, I find more interesting means of discipline. When she slammed her door on me, she found she no longer had a door. When she decided she didn't have to turn in work to a teacher she didn't care for, I decided that she simply didn't know the teacher well enough and just needed to get to know her better. Therefore, she spent an hour a day each day after school with that teacher until all of her past due work was turned in and she had successfully completed enough extra credit to bring up her grade to the point it would have been if she had turned in all that work in a timely manner. My daughter has been grounded from electricity (no phone, no computer, no curling iron, not a single modern-day luxury). Believe me, I can be creative!
 
Eve said:
Oh, believe me, I use extremely creative means of discipline. Spanking is generally as a last resort. Since my oldest daughter is beyond the age that I feel spanking is no longer acceptable, I find more interesting means of discipline. When she slammed her door on me, she found she no longer had a door. When she decided she didn't have to turn in work to a teacher she didn't care for, I decided that she simply didn't know the teacher well enough and just needed to get to know her better. Therefore, she spent an hour a day each day after school with that teacher until all of her past due work was turned in and she had successfully completed enough extra credit to bring up her grade to the point it would have been if she had turned in all that work in a timely manner. My daughter has been grounded from electricity (no phone, no computer, no curling iron, not a single modern-day luxury). Believe me, I can be creative!
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Now that's the first I'd agree with you. My opinion of spanking is anything but neutral however I'd consider spanking as a last resort.
 
Lil_country_gal said:
I was hit as a kid and i didn't turn out fine i'm scared that if i say no a guy is gonna hit me now so i don't believe in spanking or hitting for disapline i believe in creative alternitve ways comes with teaching kids who don't respond to yelling
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Don't equate hitting with spanking...two different things. Sounds like you got abused and that a whole another issue. A spanking is not hitting your child especially if it is a measured response to a serious transgression (and the rules have already been laid out). Like I said earlier, it is only used in extreme circumstances. There are so many other ways to discipline kids. The real problem is a balance in discipline and recognition where your child is in the development process. It isn't about "lording" it over your kids. That is the worst thing one can do and it is sure to alienate them. When they leave home or run away, they don't want to come back. What you want to do is be a role model yourself and instill love, respect, and responsibility into your kids. This is not an easy job no matter how good you may be as a parent. Kids have a way of trying each and every parent in the world. Some kids are easier than others and some much more difficult to bring up. Good parents recognize that they themselves aren't perfect and need to confess to their children when they are wrong. That will bring about stronger relationships with your children...
 
jazzy said:
I don't believe in spanking my kids. I was never spanked by my parents and I turned out very well self displicine.

One day my neighbor got in trouble for used twig to displince their kids cuz they were following the bible.
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Don't equate hitting with spanking...two different things. Sounds like you got abused and that a whole another issue. A spanking is not hitting your child
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Yes, I consider it´s the same as hitting.

I know what it´s alike.. It´s very hurtful to receive my Dad´s spankling hand on me.

There are so many other ways to discipline kids.
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Yes that´s right but without HURT the children. It´ll be okay and less when you have a good patience with your children.
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The Bible says many things. One thing I ask- why should I believe what's written in the Bible?

Fuzzy
 
my mom spank spank spank my sister when she was a little girl...
My mom spank her so hard all the time.
my sister would cry a lot....

Then doctor told mom that my sister has a lot of earwax in
her ears, that why she can't hear and need to stop
spanking her.
 
Kids need discipline, period, for their own sake. It is every parent/guardian's right to tailor the discipline to the best of their integrity and values.

However - I think if parents discipline them out of anger (not speaking of different methods here, but how one executes them), that could easily spiral into abuse.
 
Exactly, Liza


The Bible says many things. One thing I ask- why should I believe what's written in the Bible?

Fuzzy
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Yes, I´m bible belief but it doesn´t mean that I HAVE to follow what the bible says. Why should I?

Depend how different behavior the children has thru their parents´s form of discipline.
 
AMEN!!! That is the main reason why I do NOT believe in bible! These bibles aren't really written by god, but by man! My belief of the orgins of bible is to have the king control their kingdom. The king usually use the bible to convience the people and make them believe that the king has connection with god so therefore they have to obey the king.

Believe it or not, there is part in catholic bible that mention that the world was flat! Yea, right! Pope finally got it removed in early 1990! Why they wait so long to remove the false information, and WHO wrote that info that the world is really flat? Word from god? Your must be kidding!

I am not here to discredit the bible, there are some pointer in bible that does help us make a better perspective of our life.


Liebling:-))) said:
Yeah, I notice that the kind of author who wrote the bibles is their own opinion...

Example like this.

Religion and Discipline

http://www.stophitting.com/religion/diana.php
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Yes, I´m bible belief but it doesn´t mean that I HAVE to follow what the bible says. Why should I?
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That is certainly your prerogative. Only God will judge you now. If you believe and yet discredit, that is rather hypocritical.
 
diehardbiker65 said:
AMEN!!! That is the main reason why I do NOT believe in bible! These bibles aren't really written by god, but by man! My belief of the orgins of bible is to have the king control their kingdom. The king usually use the bible to convience the people and make them believe that the king has connection with god so therefore they have to obey the king.

Believe it or not, there is part in catholic bible that mention that the world was flat! Yea, right! Pope finally got it removed in early 1990! Why they wait so long to remove the false information, and WHO wrote that info that the world is really flat? Word from god? Your must be kidding!

I am not here to discredit the bible, there are some pointer in bible that does help us make a better perspective of our life.
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Exactly but it doesn´t mean that I don´t beleive Bible. Yes, I do beleive God and Jesus. I only beleive what the bible story (history) is what the story wrote. I still have 2 bibles here and enjoy to read their stories.

I began to notice that most autors use the kind of bible to write anything how to discpline the children, against homesexual, sex before marriage etc. etc. That´s why I´m not for it but accept what everyone at present are and what they learn... instead of say: "I has to follow what the bible says......", "Because the bible says......" blah blah blah... I had the feeling that the autors use the bible as an excuse. That´s why I rather to have real Bible story.... period.

See, Eve. ;)
 
These bibles aren't really written by god, but by man!
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Exactly. A Man writes and man add what man wants.

Anyway, if there was ONLY the Bible... But ther is Quran, the holy book of Islam, the Vedas of Hinduism, Tanakh, of Judaism.. to name w few.
There is at least 11 major World Religions:

http://www.omsakthi.org/religions.html#Judaism

Think how many smaller sections of these religions must exist.

I believe The Bible alone was adjusted according to any Christian religion - there is Greek Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Russian Orthodox, Jehova Witnesses, Anglican Chruch, Baptist..

Everyone is ready to die for his beliefs.... the questions is - which one is THE ONE?


Fuzzy

ps. the part of the Earth being flat and the Sun evolving around Earth is a good example how mistakes can be found in anything.. even holy scripts..
 
Tell me why was the bible created? What for? What purpose?

You tell me and think about it. ;)


So I don't follow what Bible says. Just as long as I believe in God and Jesus that's all it matters.
 
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