Difference of opinion on same issues....

Strange. You and kokonut behave more like buzzards than eagles. There's nothing noble about either of you. If it quacks like a duck, it IS a duck.. or in this case if it buzzes like a vulture... well I'm sure you get my drift. :laugh2:

that is VERY accurate :h5: :cheers:
 
to me, gaslighting for what occurs in the communication between a hearing person and a d/Deaf person is a form of abuse whch is not not yet named and I think it should be illegal, silly as this might seem, it is not. Now consider sexual harrassment, looking at 30, or 20 or even as recent 10 years ago verbal remarks on womens appearance was 'normal' and not it is not tolerated, even it could land one into court for harrassment!...the world is changing, and it continues to change. It is up to us to say "thats enought its not a joke, stop belittling us!" this abuse scars in areas of social, psychological and emotional well being of d/Deaf individuals. No one should be harmed in such a manner.
 
Shows difference of opinion. But at least your cartoons show who the birds of feathers really are.

whatever i dont really care what you say, your comments in AD are 99% inaccurate, including this one as quoted
 
Okay - I will say something here and maybe I am off-track, but I'm going anyway and I'm tired of being silent.

Yes, we have differences of opinion. That's why we were made as different individuals and each one of us is unique in our own way. We should not demoralize anyone just because they are different or have a different opinion.

I think we all know this. I also think that where some here have gotten off-track is with our own experiences. We have people, both hearing and d/hoh, who come looking for some help or ideas or whatever. They may not have the correct terminology for how they want to put their request or whatever. Yes, some of them may not have good intentions, but we may not know or may never know.

Where differences of opinion come into play and the "wars" or "in-fighting" or whatever I am trying to say, come in, is when a question is asked of the current d/hoh users and answers are given, we will have a hearing parent of a d/hoh child come in and totally say the answers are wrong. Sometimes they say that the info given is too outdated. Well, granted, it could be outdated, but keep in mind, a question was asked and most of the answers that would be given usually say somewhere of "This is what I went through" or "I am a current teacher of the deaf and this is what I see". Yes, times could have changed, but it is still there in the memories of the user involved so that they can still remember the "horror', "uncomfortable", or whatever feeling they experienced.

How is a hearing parent of a deaf child supposed to know what a d/hoh person goes through. They can NEVER know what went on. They can only go by what their child tells or shares or experiences. They will never know the true feeling or experience that a d/hoh person went through. Therefore, they should not be arguing here on AD about how the d/hoh are "wrong" or "mistaken".


I feel like I should say more, but I am beginning to get very upset and it's not worth it. there will be differences of opinion, but please, remember that we d/hoh people have lived it and the hearing parents and hearing users have not lived it daily.
 
Same discussion different thread folks... this was the whole reason this thread even exists because of the fight this has turned into... see that? :)
 
Well I'm a fan of bizarre stuff. I would say go for it. It's kinda like unique stuff that no one has heard of. There are also turbocharged 1980's Dodge minivan in drag racing as well. Plenty of people spend more on their cars than what its worth because it's their hobby and they enjoy doing it.

Someone dropped in a small block Chevy V8 in a plumber's van and put nitro to boost the power....700 horsepower, baby!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtkP07xvUUw&feature=related]9-second plumbers van vs 8-second WRX - YouTube[/ame]
 
Well I'm a fan of bizarre stuff. I would say go for it. It's kinda like unique stuff that no one has heard of. There are also turbocharged 1980's Dodge minivan in drag racing as well. Plenty of people spend more on their cars than what its worth because it's their hobby and they enjoy doing it.

Someone dropped in a small block Chevy V8 in a plumber's van and put nitro to boost the power....700 horsepower, baby!

9-second plumbers van vs 8-second WRX - YouTube

I think that there are better vans to try to turbocharge than this one. Like maybe that Toyota LE van or something. I think they were lighter than Dodge van.
 
I tried looking up "gaslighting" at Wiki but guess what....Wiki is being blacked out for 24 hours in protest of what's going on in Congress re the Internet....
 
And? Don't tell me it offends your sensibilities.

Im just saying that any time the subject is brought up it turns into an argument even in the very thread that basically protests against it. Because people have different opinions, it ALWAYS HAPPENS HERE! Offend me? No, bother me, yes. As it does everyone else.
 
I think that there are better vans to try to turbocharge than this one. Like maybe that Toyota LE van or something. I think they were lighter than Dodge van.

You mean the Toyota Van in the 1980's? The Mitsubishi and Toyota van both used the same kind of platform, mid engined and rwd. I wonder if anyone have modded the Chevy Astro van, lol. Even somebody dropped in a V8 in a Honda CRX and changed it to rwd. Crazy, eh?
 
You mean the Toyota Van in the 1980's? The Mitsubishi and Toyota van both used the same kind of platform, mid engined and rwd. I wonder if anyone have modded the Chevy Astro van, lol. Even somebody dropped in a V8 in a Honda CRX and changed it to rwd. Crazy, eh?

Yes, the Toyota Le Vans. Who would forget those Mitsubishi Expo car/van or even the Axxess from Nissan. Those would make better candidates than Chevy Astro. Astro is too boxy and heavy for turbo engine swap. That is just my opinion.

Wow, someone must have a lot of time to change CRX to RWD. I am sure CRX with RWD and v8 are faster than Eclipse GS Turbo and Talon TSI turbo with front wheel drive, so I bet they wanted edge......
 
I tried looking up "gaslighting" at Wiki but guess what....Wiki is being blacked out for 24 hours in protest of what's going on in Congress re the Internet....

Either disable the JavaScript or use the Google Cache.
 
Yes, the Toyota Le Vans. Who would forget those Mitsubishi Expo car/van or even the Axxess from Nissan. Those would make better candidates than Chevy Astro. Astro is too boxy and heavy for turbo engine swap. That is just my opinion.

Wow, someone must have a lot of time to change CRX to RWD. I am sure CRX with RWD and v8 are faster than Eclipse GS Turbo and Talon TSI turbo with front wheel drive, so I bet they wanted edge......

yeah that's why I love youtube. They got lot of information to look at. ;)

Yes, rwd cars with the same power usually are faster than cars with fwd drive. I even saw the other video with a 2000 Honda Civic changed to rwd with a Honda S2000 motor in it. No one will know it's a rwd or fwd. :lol:
 
yeah that's why I love youtube. They got lot of information to look at. ;)

Yes, rwd cars with the same power usually are faster than cars with fwd drive. I even saw the other video with a 2000 Honda Civic changed to rwd with a Honda S2000 motor in it. No one will know it's a rwd or fwd. :lol:

Wow, what if someone bought an used modded Civic?? They would think they're getting a FWD car, then they drive in snow!! They wonder why they cannot keep control?? Oops, it is a RWD after all!! No wonder they would not keep control.
 
Wow, what if someone bought an used modded Civic?? They would think they're getting a FWD car, then they drive in snow!! They wonder why they cannot keep control?? Oops, it is a RWD after all!! No wonder they would not keep control.

Yeah, if they didn't open the hood to be sure lol.
 
Same discussion different thread folks... this was the whole reason this thread even exists because of the fight this has turned into... see that? :)

let's rephrase it.
Same shit, different smell...from different folks...lol...so...we argue whats that smell? or rather how the smell should be, or how it should be taught?....LOL
 
Well I'm a fan of bizarre stuff. I would say go for it. It's kinda like unique stuff that no one has heard of. There are also turbocharged 1980's Dodge minivan in drag racing as well. Plenty of people spend more on their cars than what its worth because it's their hobby and they enjoy doing it.

Someone dropped in a small block Chevy V8 in a plumber's van and put nitro to boost the power....700 horsepower, baby!

9-second plumbers van vs 8-second WRX - YouTube

right, id tell that sparky who lives across the road for some ideas to do up his work van LOL
 
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