Dem: Senate has 'gun to our head' on health

Don't you love it when someone's best argument is hearsay evidence consisting of what a friend of a friend allegedly said? :squint:
 
sallylou said:
Don't you love it when someone's best argument is hearsay evidence consisting of what a friend of a friend allegedly said? :squint:
Click to expand...

What are you talking? No idea.

For situation with Medicaid, I'm just speaking about my experience with Medicaid and had received a numerous treatment and one surgery under Medicaid so I don't feel like more satisfied as private insurance does.

Otherwise, I support health care reform, especially side with senate's bill like I said in other thread.
 
kokonut said:
All emotions without much facts to it. And a red herring, too. Just irrelevant.

We have Medicare, Medicaid, and SCHIP programs.

http://www.bazelon.org/issues/healthreform/issuepapers/FederalPrograms.pdf

It's better to reform what we have than to create even more bureacracy.
Click to expand...

We are considered to be in the low economy or poor class, but we are still over-qualified for Medicaid and Food Stamps. Hubby has a job and I get disability, therefore we are over-qualified in Florida.
 
KristinaB said:
We are considered to be in the low economy or poor class, but we are still over-qualified for Medicaid and Food Stamps. Hubby has a job and I get disability, therefore we are over-qualified in Florida.
Click to expand...

Obviously, he wouldn't care either.

I'm sorry about you have been hit so hard.

I believe that treatment via Medicaid is better than NHS in UK due waiting period, however Medicaid isn't equal in every states so reform is needed to make change the Medicaid to have same in all states, just like Medicare is administered by federal.

For example, Medicaid in NY will cover Protonix (generic version) but AL won't cover.
 
kokonut said:
Where have I said I don't care? Pre-existing conditions shouldn't be a reason to cancel an insurance holder.
Click to expand...

Just seems... because you don't show your support on health care reform, not about democrat plan but just with your own views like what kind of thing that you want to be reformed.
 
Foxrac said:
Just seems... because you don't show your support on health care reform, not about democrat plan but just with your own views like what kind of thing that you want to be reformed.
Click to expand...

The health care bill is shoddy shit piece of a bill, hastily done with reams and reams of hidden porks, pay offs to special interest groups, and bribes to senators!!!!!!!!!!!!! All hastily done without proper review by all parties involved!! These things need to be looked at one section at a time and this was never, never done. They did the most irresponsible thing. I don't believe in govt control on health insurance. I certainly don't believe in giving govt control over 1/6 of our economy, either.

If they have huge problems with Medicare, Medicaid, Veteran care and so on, what makes you think that the govt can make this into a successful health care package?? They can't. Focus on the ones we have and improve it rather than stuff pork after pork inside a bill that has NOTHING to do with health care *INSURANCE*
Oink, Ouch: Pork in the Health Care Bill - AIP Blog - American Issues Project
 
kokonut said:
The health care bill is shoddy shit piece of a bill, hastily done with reams and reams of hidden porks, pay offs to special interest groups, and bribes to senators!!!!!!!!!!!!! All hastily done without proper review by all parties involved!! These things need to be looked at one section at a time and this was never, never done. They did the most irresponsible thing. I don't believe in govt control on health insurance. I certainly don't believe in giving govt control over 1/6 of our economy, either.

If they have huge problems with Medicare, Medicaid, Veteran care and so on, what makes you think that the govt can make this into a successful health care package?? They can't. Focus on the ones we have and improve it rather than stuff pork after pork inside a bill that has NOTHING to do with health care *INSURANCE*
Oink, Ouch: Pork in the Health Care Bill - AIP Blog - American Issues Project
Click to expand...

I am for health care by the government. But definitely not for this plan at all.

Oh, Thats right. Good point -
Foxrac - If they have "huge problems" with Medicare, Medicaid, Vet Care, etc, how do you expect the government to be good about the Health Care Reform?

Kinda contradicting yourself here, eh?
 
kokonut said:
The health care bill is shoddy shit piece of a bill, hastily done with reams and reams of hidden porks, pay offs to special interest groups, and bribes to senators!!!!!!!!!!!!! All hastily done without proper review by all parties involved!! These things need to be looked at one section at a time and this was never, never done. They did the most irresponsible thing. I don't believe in govt control on health insurance. I certainly don't believe in giving govt control over 1/6 of our economy, either.

If they have huge problems with Medicare, Medicaid, Veteran care and so on, what makes you think that the govt can make this into a successful health care package?? They can't. Focus on the ones we have and improve it rather than stuff pork after pork inside a bill that has NOTHING to do with health care *INSURANCE*
Oink, Ouch: Pork in the Health Care Bill - AIP Blog - American Issues Project
Click to expand...

Are you referred as current bill that created by democrat? I don't understand why republican don't fix the health care or have reform during G.W. Bush admin so it make me feel like not trust with either of democrat or republican because they don't fix it by together on time.

Would you support bill that simplify about ban on pre-existing condition and deny or cancellation of insurance coverage by insurance companies WITHOUT any government control, even no mandatory coverage? I means 2 sentences so simply.

If republicans does fix it during G.W. Bush Admin so we wouldn't have worry about liberal democrat to bring about increase of government control in near future, that's how does happened today.
 
posts from hell said:
I am for health care by the government. But definitely not for this plan at all.

Oh, Thats right. Good point -
Foxrac - If they have "huge problems" with Medicare, Medicaid, Vet Care, etc, how do you expect the government to be good about the Health Care Reform?

Kinda contradicting yourself here, eh?
Click to expand...

May or may not, I don't have any prediction until it has seen on my own.

That's why I blame on congress for not fix any situation with Medicare, Medicaid, VA, etc on time, over billion dollars fraud in Medicare is just outrage and need be fix so badly.
 
Banjo said:
The real question should be... do you have any idea what you are talking about?
Click to expand...

Thanks, Banjo.

PFH, Do you have any idea about what are you talking about?
 
then what makes you think, Foxrac, that the govt can do "better" with this health care reform bill at the national level all across the U.S.? Despite billions of dollars worth or pork hidden away in this bill that has nothing to do with insurance?
 
Back
Top