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kokonut said:
Are you saying you're a hearing, hh or Deaf person? (noticing you only said "d"eaf).

Regardless, heck, anyone can join. I think..... :shock:
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I thought you didn't use labels.:cool2:
 
Hohtopics said:
This is a "deaf and hard of hearing" forum to begin with. I don't even use "HOH" in accounts or forums that has nothing to do with hearing loss. While I do know of some of the deaf that pretty much have "deaf" in every one of their screenames even in accounts or forums that has nothing to do with deafness or hearing loss, like when opening up a stock account or something.
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So? You have a problem with people who are proud of their identity?
 
koko,

i did not mean to say that but i want to say, "get real" you ve been there at gallaudet for three years. you knew exactly what you are doing here on AD. I suppose you had some issues during your gally years, but please do not bring the "old" issues from your own experiences from gally to here this AD. Deafhood is about each of us, not because of your experiences during your gally years. Just let the " rejection issues go" sometimes during college life and outsideof college life can be different. I know you know how or what deafhood is all about. You ve been associate with pure asl users many times. No offensive here.
 
DeafCaroline said:
Sure I would talk to them about it if they're interested but what you're saying is akin to telling blind people that they shouldn't call people who wear eyeglasses blind and that they should talk to them to see how they feel.

I am not following your argument here. I'm lost.
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No.

Suppose "blindhood" existed, what do you think it would be about and what it means? Think in the context of how people would perceive the meaning of the word "deaf" versus what "blind" would mean to them. It's all about about taking it literally. Say, you wear glasses for your 20/25 vision, then that means you're blind, right? But you say, "No, not true." And they'll say, "well, you're on your blindhood journey."

Am I making it clear?
 
kokonut said:
No.

Suppose "blindhood" existed, what do you think it would be about and what it means? Think in the context of how people would perceive the meaning of the word "deaf" versus what "blind" would mean to them. It's all about about taking it literally. Say, you wear glasses for your 20/25 vision, then that means you're blind, right? But you say, "No, not true." And they'll say, "well, you're on your blindhood journey."

Am I making it clear?
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Are you blind?
 
kokonut said:
No.

Suppose "blindhood" existed, what do you think it would be about and what it means? Think in the context of how people would perceive the meaning of the word "deaf" versus what "blind" would mean to them. It's all about about taking it literally. Say, you wear glasses for your 20/25 vision, then that means you're blind, right? But you say, "No, not true." And they'll say, "well, you're on your blindhood journey."

Am I making it clear?
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That is for the blind to determine, not you. This has nothing to do with any other disability.

No one here takes anything literally except you.
 
kokonut said:
No.

Suppose "blindhood" existed, what do you think it would be about and what it means? Think in the context of how people would perceive the meaning of the word "deaf" versus what "blind" would mean to them. It's all about about taking it literally. Say, you wear glasses for your 20/25 vision, then that means you're blind, right? But you say, "No, not true." And they'll say, "well, you're on your blindhood journey."

Am I making it clear?
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It's not really a good parallel. Blindness legally ranges over quite a distance.

Low vision, SLP, NLP, etc... And there isn't a huge fight to reject anyone in blindness either.
 
jillio said:
That is for the blind to determine, not you. This has nothing to do with any other disability.

No one here takes anything literally except you.
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Maybe me. :wave:
 
kokonut said:
No.

Suppose "blindhood" existed, what do you think it would be about and what it means? Think in the context of how people would perceive the meaning of the word "deaf" versus what "blind" would mean to them. It's all about about taking it literally. Say, you wear glasses for your 20/25 vision, then that means you're blind, right? But you say, "No, not true." And they'll say, "well, you're on your blindhood journey."

Am I making it clear?
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wow..... how many times are you going to repeat that? I'm about to go blind....
 
DeafCaroline said:
Sure I would talk to them about it if they're interested but what you're saying is akin to telling blind people that they shouldn't call people who wear eyeglasses blind and that they should talk to them to see how they feel.

I am not following your argument here. I'm lost.
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So is he. That's the sad part.
 
Bottesini said:
Maybe me. :wave:
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Maybe you literally, or maybe you to determine what blind means to you?:lol:

But no, I see you using very non-concrete language and examples. (If literally is what you meant.)
 
DeafCaroline said:
"And lastly, for someone so resistant to identifying with Deafhood, you sure like being in the culture and community of the deaf for you are here posting every single day. "

And where did I say people who don't embrace Deafhood should leave? you're putting words in my mouth.
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Alright, perhaps I was a little harsh in my assessment of that post and apologize to you DeafCaroline!
 
jillio said:
Maybe you literally, or maybe you to determine what blind means to you?:lol:

But no, I see you using very non-concrete language and examples. (If literally is what you meant.)
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:lol: I guess both , but I was talking about being a literal thinker.

But, now I feel empowered by knowing I use non-concrete language!
 
Deafhood applies to D E A F people. just deaf people, as in people who can't hear. Period. Not people with mild hearing loss because by definition, they are NOT deaf.

And by the way, I've always tried to speak to you with respect and courtesy and I never insulted you personally - instead, tried to stick to the debate itself

Why are you being so rude to me - "are you blind?" If you are going to be speaking to me like that on a regular basis, then I'm disengaging from any further dialogue with you. I love a good healthy and even passionate debate but personal insults, not so much.
 
"Alright, perhaps I was a little harsh in my assessment of that post and apologize to you DeafCaroline! "

Thank you HOHtopics! I appreciate that. :)
 
DeafCaroline said:
Deafhood applies to D E A F people. just deaf people, as in people who can't hear. Period. Not people with mild hearing loss because by definition, they are NOT deaf.

And by the way, I've always tried to speak to you with respect and courtesy and I never insulted you personally - instead, tried to stick to the debate itself

Why are you being so rude to me - "are you blind?" If you are going to be speaking to me like that on a regular basis, then I'm disengaging from any further dialogue with you. I love a good healthy and even passionate debate but personal insults, not so much.
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Why is "are you blind?" rude?? Or an insult?
 
jillio said:
So? You have a problem with people who are proud of their identity?
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And to throw you a little bit of a curveball jillio. And there are those that may also feel a little good about their "d"eaf identity. And that's when the "A" word usually gets thrown at them. ;)

In another word it's only okay for the Deaf to feel good about their identity. But if the deaf do the same, they're just being audists, right?
 
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