Deafhood

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jillio said:
What would you know about the identity and communities of any person with a disability. You can't see past your own nose.:roll:
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All those other conditions DO NOT have a language of their own. Deafness does and that is why it ROCKS!
 
And now it's about measurements then? A language requirement. Says who? Sounds more like an ideological purity test of some sorts before a "hood" can be applied to a condition.
 
shel90 said:
All those other conditions DO NOT have a language of their own. Deafness does and that is why it ROCKS!
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Exactly. But that is what happens when you get someone who knows nothing about culture trying to talk about it.:roll: They ask really stupid questions.
 
kokonut said:
And now it's about measurements then? A language requirement. Says who? Sounds more like an ideological purity test of some sorts before a "hood" can be applied to a condition.
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Says cultural anthropology. Open a book, for God's sake.
 
kokonut said:
And now it's about measurements then? A language requirement. Says who? Sounds more like an ideological purity test of some sorts before a "hood" can be applied to a condition.
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norom, 'hood' is used in a sense like as a neighbourhood, you learn to like or dislike your neighbours but anyway you get along and acknowledge your place and theirs. Obviously you can't.

deafhood is political yes, it is for a global recognition of the existence of d/Deaf people by that, if the numbers becomes significant, then we can stand up and say for our Deaf Rights...blacks had it, gays had it, women had it, and shouldnt be hard to guess why they had it, its because the strengths is in numbers. So, canvesting the range of deaf/hi.hoh/Deaf people share the pains and dissapointment of how we endure hardship in the uncaring, cold, selfish hearing world.... This is the basis of consolidation as a 'population' of an Ethnic group, after all for quite a long time now (20 years +) Deaf academics, actvisits, leaders, supporters, fellow members, deaf children, deaf teens have been speaking out that 'we're another group oppressed under the normative ideology which governs the infrastructure of the world which we live. We have been described numerous times that we are a enthic minority, but have no power, unless we PROVE we are More than mere theory, or 'cutlure talk' as a quaint topic, damn it, we are REAL, we have REAL issues and have REAL potential too...
Thats the whole point.
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If you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. you obviously dont like what's is cooking...
 
:hmm: this is completely different than the definition given in the other thread. I wonder if you will get a "duh" for this. According to the other thread deafhood is about the individual. :dunno:

Grummer said:
norom, 'hood' is used in a sense like as a neighbourhood, you learn to like or dislike your neighbours but anyway you get along and acknowledge your place and theirs. Obviously you can't.

deafhood is political yes, it is for a global recognition of the existence of d/Deaf people by that, if the numbers becomes significant, then we can stand up and say for our Deaf Rights...blacks had it, gays had it, women had it, and shouldnt be hard to guess why they had it, its because the strengths is in numbers. So, canvesting the range of deaf/hi.hoh/Deaf people share the pains and dissapointment of how we endure hardship in the uncaring, cold, selfish hearing world.... This is the basis of consolidation as a 'population' of an Ethnic group, after all for quite a long time now (20 years +) Deaf academics, actvisits, leaders, supporters, fellow members, deaf children, deaf teens have been speaking out that 'we're another group oppressed under the normative ideology which governs the infrastructure of the world which we live. We have been described numerous times that we are a enthic minority, but have no power, unless we PROVE we are More than mere theory, or 'cutlure talk' as a quaint topic, damn it, we are REAL, we have REAL issues and have REAL potential too...
Thats the whole point.
and,
If you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. you obviously dont like what's is cooking...
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Hmm...and I was speaking for myself, too. About my own personal journey that need no definition because mine is unique. Each of our own journey is unique as I have said countless times. Don't like my opinion? TFB.
 
kokonut said:
Hmm...and I was speaking for myself, too. About my own personal journey that need no definition because mine is unique. Each of our own journey is unique as I have said countless times. Don't like my opinion? TFB.
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Each of our journey is, of course, unique... which is what we have been saying for the whole time.

But we are asking what your definition of deafhood is. that's all.
 
kokonut said:
Hmm...and I was speaking for myself, too. About my own personal journey that need no definition because mine is unique. Each of our own journey is unique as I have said countless times. Don't like my opinion? TFB.
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Again, Again and Again...your own personal journey as a deaf or hh person is considered to be Deafhood. Each person's experience is unique.

You are demonstrating great wilfulness to Deafhood. Here is a metaphor for you: Hitting baseballs from a pitching machine is a metaphor for willingness. Like the pitching machine keeps throwing balls at you, life throws reality at you. You need to keep your eye on the ball to hit it and swing. As each ball comes, focus on giving it your best shot. Willfulness, crying, defiance or denial does not stop the ball. If you stand in the way of the ball, BAM!, the ball hits you. You will not hit any balls if you stand there doing nothing. Ignoring the ball does not make it stop coming. Willingness is taking your best swing at the ball.

:grouphug:
 
jillio said:
How the hell would you know?:lol:

And koko had problems fitting into the Deaf world for the same reason he has problems fitting in here and everywhere: his attitude.
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Just for the record, I've had more experience with the Deaf than some of you think or realize.
 
BecLak said:
That's a sugar-coated quinine pill if ever I saw one! This is typical of the 'attitude' we are talking about.
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Well some of the AD'ers including DeafCaroline went as far as saying that if one doesn't embrace Deafhood, he or she should leave the forum. Sometime you have to see beyond the surface to see the cause and effect.
 
jillio said:
And do paraplegics or dyslexics use a different language to communicate? Duh. Culture is built on language. Go back to school.
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Theoretically speaking you could say they could. There's more than one language than just English in this world, you know. Just saying.
 
Hohtopics said:
Well some of the AD'ers including DeafCaroline went as far as saying that if one doesn't embrace Deafhood, he or she should leave the forum. Sometime you have to see beyond the surface to see the cause and effect.
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I agree with that if you dont embrace Deafhood you should find the nearest exit.

If you don't embrace being deaf, why are you here? Why are you wasting time on a deaf forum?
 
I haven't read all of this, but this sounds surprisingly a lot like that "Is deafness an ethnic group?" thread. So... exactly how many more labels do y'all want? So far we've got:
-Deaf
-Deaf community
-deaf community
-Ethnically Deaf
-Culturally Deaf
-Deafhood

....anything else?
 
Daredevel7 said:
I haven't read all of this, but this sounds surprisingly a lot like that "Is deafness an ethnic group?" thread. So... exactly how many more labels do y'all want? So far we've got:
-Deaf
-Deaf community
-deaf community
-Ethnically Deaf
-Culturally Deaf
-Deafhood

....anything else?
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Why the negative tone?
 
posts from hell said:
Why the negative tone?
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It DOES get tiring. I'm not particularly fond of labels. People think that they bring some sort of unison/community feeling but, to me, they just bring more headaches and discord among the community. It's one thing to share feelings and experiences and identifying with each other and another thing to create labels and arguing over the rules for one to "qualify" for that labeled group.

Labels are meant for easy identification without lengthy explanation, not for classifying people into groups.
 
Daredevel7 said:
It DOES get tiring. I'm not particularly fond of labels. People think that they bring some sort of unison/community feeling but, to me, they just bring more headaches and discord among the community. It's one thing to share feelings and experiences and identifying with each other and another thing to create labels and arguing over the rules for one to "qualify" for that labeled group.

Labels are meant for easy identification without lengthy explanation, not for classifying people into groups.
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In regards of Deafhood, its a concept that was coined, not a label.

Otherwise how could we know it's Ladd's book we're talking about, how could we know it's that particular class we're taking.

If it bothers you, you can leave it be. No need to wade through the threads. :)
 
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