Deaf child hears for the first time

shel90 said:
I was referring to the real world with hundreds and hundreds of deaf children.
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Interesting. But the post that you replied to was not.
 
TXgolfer said:
This is what oppression means...

The Dr has no power. He is only giving his opinion. It is up to parents to decide if they will accept that opinion or seek more advice.
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Well, that what my parent said and they were very pushed by first ENT doctor to took his advice.

That was back in 1990 so I think first ENT doctor already retired nowadays.
 
ambrosia said:
And how do you know that they are doing this now? Do you personally know any toddlers implanted that their families have discouraged to use ASL? Or are you thinking of past experiences? Because evey single new member of this forum that has been in the process of having their child implanted has said they were encouraged to teach them ASL, the toddler I personally knew had intervention and they were encouraged to learn it. The guy I went to school and worked with that had a CI knows ASL.....I'm 2 for 2 here. :dunno2: And given what the parents on here were told, it looks like it's encouraged now. I've only known 3 people with CI, those 2 and a late deafened man.

Like that article diehardbiker posted a link to....I don't know when it was written but all the books that were referenced were 20-30 years old....not exactly current information....and who knows when the information was formulated that is in the books...10 years before that?
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I think you must not have understood what I just told you about my family.
 
Bottesini said:
I don't give identifying information.
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Oh because if I saw a kid with an implant I'd be all "oh that must be bottesini's grandkid"??? okay

See here's the thing, what you say contradicts all the evidence that I have seen, this is you just claiming something, to support assertions, so I pretty have to take it with a grain of salt.
 
ambrosia said:
Oh because if I saw a kid with an implant I'd be all "oh that must be bottesini's grandkid"??? okay

See here's the thing, what you say contradicts all the evidence that I have seen, this is you just claiming something, to support assertions, so I pretty have to take it with a grain of salt.
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Okay, no problem.
 
Just because you never see or heard any doctor discourage ASL at any hospital, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It DOES happen. STILL!

Last month, I have my good friend, my former classmate, was heavily criticized for not discouraged ASL and teaching oral-only skills on her 2 Deaf boys because they chose to teach both speech skills and ASL. She was almost reported for "terrible" mother, too. She's from Washington... It was started with the hospital, but they left her family alone when the family refused to listen their recommendation. Then later, something clinic (she won't mentioned it, tho) made a report against her. Luckily, it was dropped out, tho.

She said she was so stressful to worry about her boys being not "behaved" normally. She almost lost her mind and her self for some time. I can't find her FB post, but I know what's common among Deaf families. Well, I know you're guys late-deafened that you never experience the real oppression. But, still, it does happens...

Also, there are some cases where you can learn about their families lost their newborns to adoption or foster at hospital because they're "unfit" parents. I believe one former AD'er had mentioned about that...

EDIT: I think she deleted her story on FB, so I just tried to remember what she said, tho...
 
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KarissaMann05 said:
Just because you never see or heard any doctor discourage ASL at any hospital, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It DOES happen. STILL!

Last month, I have my good friend, my former classmate, was heavily criticized for not discouraged ASL and teaching oral-only skills on her 2 Deaf boys because they chose to teach both speech skills and ASL. She was almost reported for "terrible" mother, too. She's from Washington... It was started with the hospital, but they left her family alone when the family refused to listen their recommendation. Then later, something clinic (she won't mentioned it, tho) made a report against her. Luckily, it was dropped out, tho.

She said she was so stressful to worry about her boys being not "behaved" normally. She almost lost her mind and her self for some time. I can't find her FB post, but I know what's common among Deaf families. Well, I know you're guys late-deafened that you never experience the real oppression. But, still, it does happens...

Also, there are some cases where you can learn about their families lost their newborns to adoption or foster at hospital because they're "unfit" parents. I believe one former AD'er had mentioned about that...
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And it happened to several of my deaf and hearing friends who have deaf children. SC must be a very special place. In will tell all of them to move there so they won't face that kind of criticism and pressure from society about using ASL with their deaf children who have CIs.
 
shel90 said:
And it happened to several of my deaf and hearing friends who have deaf children. SC must be a very special place. In will tell all of them to move there so they won't face that kind of criticism and pressure from society about using ASL with their deaf children who have CIs.
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It could be... I think it is illegal for doctor to give a biased opinion about CI in state of South Carolina or they will prosecuted for perjury. :hmm: :lol:
 
KarissaMann05 said:
Last month, I have my good friend, my former classmate, was heavily criticized for not discouraged ASL and teaching oral-only skills on her 2 Deaf boys because they chose to teach both speech skills and ASL. She was almost reported for "terrible" mother, too. She's from Washington... It was started with the hospital, but they left her family alone when the family refused to listen their recommendation. Then later, something clinic (she won't mentioned it, tho) made a report against her. Luckily, it was dropped out, tho.
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I think that person was probably telling a fib. I don't think CPS is going to even take a report on a parent teaching their kid to be bilingual. Perhaps there was another reason. :dunno:
 
KarissaMann05 said:
Just because you never see or heard any doctor discourage ASL at any hospital, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It DOES happen. STILL!

Last month, I have my good friend, my former classmate, was heavily criticized for not discouraged ASL and teaching oral-only skills on her 2 Deaf boys because they chose to teach both speech skills and ASL. She was almost reported for "terrible" mother, too. She's from Washington... It was started with the hospital, but they left her family alone when the family refused to listen their recommendation. Then later, something clinic (she won't mentioned it, tho) made a report against her. Luckily, it was dropped out, tho.

She said she was so stressful to worry about her boys being not "behaved" normally. She almost lost her mind and her self for some time. I can't find her FB post, but I know what's common among Deaf families. Well, I know you're guys late-deafened that you never experience the real oppression. But, still, it does happens...

Also, there are some cases where you can learn about their families lost their newborns to adoption or foster at hospital because they're "unfit" parents. I believe one former AD'er had mentioned about that...
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THAT is horrible. She was doing BOTH!
 
ambrosia said:
Hmmmm I imagine even if its nit the same sounds a normal ear would hear he would still learn to recognize what he does hear. So even though it's not the same doesn't mean he doesn't interpret it the same. I could hear someone speak Spanish, but I wouldn't understand what they were saying....but if I grew up hearing it as a child I would recognize it. Does that make sense? And this doesn't pertain just to speech.....if he hears a dog barking, even if it doesn't sound the same to a hearing person he will learn to recognize THAT sound as a dog barking.
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I am talking about "noise" the CI can pick up a lot and in my case a lot of it at the beginning was painful. So speach came through but there was a ton of other noises. Because it did happen to me, I would be concerned that it could happen to a child and no one would know.
 
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TXgolfer said:
I think that person was probably telling a fib. I don't think CPS is going to even take a report on a parent teaching their kid to be bilingual. Perhaps there was another reason. :dunno:
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.....You gotta be kidding me. She is not lied about anything or made some "shits" up. If you choose ASL-only or both for your kids, you could be reported. But, as for the family who is from Washington, she didn't mention anything about CPS except she was being reported. So, I don't know what happened to her family or her but I know it's common for Deaf families, tho.

Keri's story is just different from her family; she's from Montana.
 
The only thing I can add to this thread is that I have a former co-worker whose son is deaf. It was unexpected (no family history.) He's now 8. I had quit working where I had worked with her, but we stayed in touch after. She told me about getting him the CI and that they were NOT going to introduce ASL. To this day, they still haven't introduced ASL. So even as recent as of 8 years ago, people were still telling parents not to use ASL with a CI child.
 
AlleyCat said:
The only thing I can add to this thread is that I have a former co-worker whose son is deaf. It was unexpected (no family history.) He's now 8. I had quit working where I had worked with her, but we stayed in touch after. She told me about getting him the CI and that they were NOT going to introduce ASL. To this day, they still haven't introduced ASL. So even as recent as of 8 years ago, people were still telling parents not to use ASL with a CI child.
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But of course, you will get told that u only know one and that you are wrong. I might as well get ahead of the game of "Deaf people and Deaf community are wrong wrong wrong."
 
TXgolfer said:
No, because the Dr has no power. He is giving a medical opinion.
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a Dr's recommendation IS power... think of all this court and mental health issues. it is exactly the same. A Doctor's persusaion IS a form of oppression, only off-sided...on other hand, Doctors Never see it as cruel because they truely believe it is praiseworthy to help parents to 'cure' their deaf child by science..

even the parents believe its not cruel, just hard work...however when problems arises...its comes back as a hindsight..that maybe...it was a mistake...innocent as it appears...but the drills of learning a language or two...particularly at how deaf children have to work incredibly hard just to scrap along and Still falls behind in bid to try please everyone
so...something tells me that is not right
 
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