Deaf child hears for the first time

[diehardbiker]

Again, I am not saying that we prohibit CI, or oral. That is not where I stand. Where I stand on is educate Hearing parents that never heard of Deaf and their child is Deaf. That is the whole point that I stand behind. Majority of hearing people have no clue what Deaf is like, that is something we can not change. But what we can change is educate these medical professionals because most hearing medical professional never met Deaf or unheard of it and have no idea what they are. That part needs to be changed to make difference.

And Nah, don't need to be sorry. Its not your fault.

See you're an example of someone that wouldn't have benefited speech therapy and oral skills. I am sorry you had to go through that, I really am. They should have recognized the futility of it early on. BUT, just because you couldn't benefit from it doesn't mean other children wouldn't, do think it's fair to hold that approach against all parents and doctors when there are children that will benefit from it? That they should have those tools in their tool box if they can use it?

 

[TXgolfer]

You don't know squat about the child's deafness especially CI. You are suppose to pay attention to the deaf child's needs first before you make decisions. The adopted parents don't care about his deafness and his needs. They went ahead getting him to get brain stem implant like a guinea pig and hoping that he will hear clearly like a hearing person. The little boy was not responding to his father when he tried to communicate with him. He completely ignored him.

They are testing him like being in the experiment lab. Geeze. I don't like your thinking. You have to accept the child being deaf. If you don't, he or she will turn against you if you force your child to do your bidding. I don't know why you are here if you don't understand and agree with us. We have been through it and you have no idea how we suffered under the oralism method . You have no right to be here if you keep making the denial about it.

None of this has anything to do with what I said. And none of this changes the fact that EACH parent has the RIGHt to raise THEIR child as they see fit. You may disagree with their choice, but other highly educated people agree with it.

Note that I was able to respond without insulting you personally.

 

[TXgolfer]

Like I said before, whatever you believe. U haven't lived with the negative impact of the dr's decisions like many of us did.

Did Drs make the decisions? Usually parents make the decisions.

 

[TXgolfer]

Anyone who does -not- believe words and the actions that can come from them- have the power to lead to oppression - is living in a fantasy land.

"Parent's choice" is crap. Parents aren't gods and they aren't right simply because they're parents.

Nobody said parents were "Gods" or "right." That doesn't change the fact that it is a parent's job to make decision for their child.

 

[VacationGuy234]

I think we all agree it needs to be a combination of oral/ASL teaching for children to fully learn and integrate into society.

I don't think you can blame either side for the individual short coming of using only one approach.

And, I do think people on both sides of the issue want to sincerely help the child.

 

[Foxrac]

I think we all agree it needs to be a combination of oral/ASL teaching for children to fully learn and integrate into society.

I don't think you can blame either side for the individual short coming of using only one approach.

And, I do think people on both sides of the issue want to sincerely help the child.

If my future child is deaf so I will goes with ASL only.

 

[diehardbiker]

Not just that child but for ALL child that was, and will be born Deaf, plus those late deafened as well. Nobody needs blame game, but a serious real change is needed especially with medical professionals because they are generally the "First responder" when parents seek assistance and advices.

I think we all agree it needs to be a combination of oral/ASL teaching for children to fully learn and integrate into society.

I don't think you can blame either side for the individual short coming of using only one approach.

And, I do think people on both sides of the issue want to sincerely help the child.

 

[VacationGuy234]

If my future child is deaf so I will goes with ASL only.

I would not recommend it. Adults who've gone voice off have lost friends and family over it so you can imagine what life would be like for a kid. An all or nothing view really does not work out, in my opinion.

 

[Foxrac]

I would not recommend it. Adults who've gone voice off have lost friends and family over it so you can imagine what life would be like for a kid. An all or nothing view really does not work out, in my opinion.

I'm deaf and if my wife is deaf, given a deaf child, so we goes with ASL only because oral isn't work for us.

I went with oral and it didn't work for me.

 

[VacationGuy234]

I'm deaf and if my wife is deaf, given a deaf child, so we goes with ASL only because oral isn't work for us.

I went with oral and it didn't work for me.

That is fine for within the immediate family if they are all deaf, but what about the rest of the world or for your extended family? Surely, the child will have extended family members who are not deaf.

 

[CrazyPaul]

I would not recommend it. Adults who've gone voice off have lost friends and family over it so you can imagine what life would be like for a kid. An all or nothing view really does not work out, in my opinion.

As Txgolfer said, that's a parent's decision. Therefore that's Foxrac's decision when he becomes a parent.
Don't tell him what to do or not to do.

What? Please clarify your statement in red.

 

[CrazyPaul]

That is fine for within the immediate family if they are all deaf, but what about the rest of the world or for your extended family? Surely, the child will have extended family members who are not deaf.

Oh, come on. Deaf kids are doing fine. When I was little, I had many hearing friends in the neighborhood. We played sports and hang out thousands times. No big deal! Are you trying to say that deaf kids have no life?

 

[Foxrac]

That is fine for within the immediate family if they are all deaf, but what about the rest of the world or for your extended family? Surely, the child will have extended family members who are not deaf.

Get a friend or relative who willing to interpret, or typing or writing to communicate with extended families.

The oral language isn't always work for all deaf people - case by case basis.

Did you read about my past with oral language - there are plenty of posts that you probably missed it.

 

[Foxrac]

As Txgolfer said, that's a parent's decision. Therefore that's Foxrac's decision when he becomes a parent.
Don't tell him what to do or not to do.

What? Please clarify your statement in red.

 

[Jane B.]

I think what some are suggesting is that if you have a deaf child you don't do the opposite of the "No ASL" that so many have complained about by enforcing a rule of not learning and at times using "speech".

 

[Calvin]

Ok let's take a breathing room here.... and let's get back on the topic. I wouldn't want to have to lock this thread. If someone get offended and other apologizes, I suggest we move on or resolve it in PMland.

Thanks

 

[Foxrac]

Ok let's take a breathing room here.... and let's get back on the topic. I wouldn't want to have to lock this thread. If someone get offended and other apologizes, I suggest we move on or resolve it in PMland.

Thanks

It is fine now - I just simply moved on before moderator get involved.

 

[shel90]

I would not recommend it. Adults who've gone voice off have lost friends and family over it so you can imagine what life would be like for a kid. An all or nothing view really does not work out, in my opinion.

Oh pls...:roll:

The oral only method was tried on my brother. He wasn't able to develop speech skills so at 5 years old, he finally was allowed to learn ASL. His life improved after that ...all his behavior problems completely ceased once he was placed in the deaf school.

I hate the "oral-only view and ASL later if all fails" that most parents tend to follow.

 

[TXgolfer]

Oh pls...:roll:

The oral only method was tried on my brother. He wasn't able to develop speech skills so at 5 years old, he finally was allowed to learn ASL. His life improved after that ...all his behavior problems completely ceased once he was placed in the deaf school.

I hate the "oral-only view and ASL later if all fails" that most parents tend to follow.

He is saying basically the same thing. No one is advocating for oral only.

 

[VacationGuy234]

Oh, come on. Deaf kids are doing fine. When I was little, I had many hearing friends in the neighborhood. We played sports and hang out thousands times. No big deal! Are you trying to say that deaf kids have no life?

How did you communicate with your hearing friends if you were voice off?

There are members here who have tried this which I will not name and it didn't work out.