Court of public opinion looms large in George Zimmerman murder trial

TXgolfer said:
Jiro
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right. and that's not what I was referring to.

whatdidyousay said "Zimmerman said Martin smashed his head on the sidewalk and you need to uses your hands to do that." and you replied back with "not by scratching."

smashing his head would means your fingernails dig into his scalp.. thus embedding his dna into your fingernails.
 
Jiro said:
smashing his head would means your fingernails dig into his scalp.. thus embedding his dna into your fingernails.
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It would? Are you sure? No way to smash someone's head into the ground without using fingernails??? :hmm:
 
TXgolfer said:
It would? Are you sure? No way to smash someone's head into the ground without using fingernails??? :hmm:
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*shrug* I'm not interested in this farce especially with a dishonest quibbling person.

the fact is that Zimmerman's DNA is not found in Trayvon's fingernail.
 
Jiro said:
*shrug* I'm not interested in this farce especially with a dishonest quibbling person.

the fact is that Zimmerman's DNA is not found in Trayvon's fingernail.
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Nope, it sure wasn't. :)
 
Jiro said:
it's not just the hair. it's the skin and fluid. human is constantly shedding skin every second. that's how a sniffing dog can easily find'em.

plus - Zimmerman testified that Trayvon covered his mouth to prevent him from screaming.
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Excuse me, when did he testify in court?
 
Don't forget. Zimmerman agreed to and passed multiple lie detector tests without even consulting an attorney. Too bad that is not admissible. ...might save an innocent man.
 
TXgolfer said:
Don't forget. Zimmerman agreed to and passed multiple lie detector tests without even consulting an attorney. Too bad that is not admissible. ...might save an innocent man.
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it's inadmissible because the test was misleading and vague. even I knew that.

Zimmerman passed lie detector test
Police often use a lie detector test to guide an investigation, Reep said.

Zimmerman was asked nine questions, including two related directly to the shooting: "Did you confront the guy you shot?" the tester asked. "No," Zimmerman responded. "Were you in fear for your life, when you shot the guy?" the tester asked. "Yes," Zimmerman said. The examiner concluded that Zimmerman "told substantially the complete truth."

Ron Grenier, a former FBI agent and lie detector expert, said the voice stress analysis test is not as reliable as a polygraph test. Also, he said, it's unclear what the examiner meant by "confront." Further, such tests don't measure a person's state of mind or fear at some other time, he added.

"He may have convinced himself that he was in fear of his life, but whether or not he was is not definitive," Grenier said.

Zimmerman's responses would be more meaningful, he said, if he had been asked, " 'Did Trayvon Martin attack you and knock you to the ground?' Or 'Was Trayvon Martin on top of you hitting you before you shot him?' "

Joe Navarro, a former FBI agent who teaches interviewing techniques at Saint Leo University, agreed. "You have to ask precise questions," he said. "You want to know at what point you feared for your life."
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The detective wrote that Zimmerman said he avoided speaking to Trayvon because he was afraid of him. But "later in the encounter," Serino wrote, "Zimmerman exited his vehicle, in spite of his earlier admission to investigators that he was afraid of Martin. … His actions are inconsistent with those of a person who has stated he was in fear of another subject."
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Jiro said:
then why?


not really. it was poorly administered.
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:lol: It says a lot just that he volunteered to take it. Didn't even consult with an attorney first. Obviously he felt like he had nothing to hide.
 
TXgolfer said:
:lol: It says a lot just that he volunteered to take it. Didn't even consult with an attorney first. Obviously he felt like he had nothing to hide.
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perhaps because he knew what to do and how to say it? after all... he has taken college courses in this subject...

again - it's inadmissible and the fact that a former FBI agent and lie detector expert's 25 cents carries with credible weight and experience that this test was poorly administered. that's the real expert.... not some tv armchair experts whom you frequently rooted for.
 
Jiro said:
perhaps because he knew what to do and how to say it? after all... he has taken college courses in this subject...

again - it's inadmissible and the fact that a former FBI agent and lie detector expert's 25 cents carries with credible weight and experience that this test was poorly administered. that's the real expert.... not some tv armchair experts whom you frequently rooted for.
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Yes....I'm sure he had that all planned out. :lol:
 
TXgolfer said:
Yes....I'm sure he had that all planned out. :lol:
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planned out? nope.

just prepared. for ie - he knew about Stand Your Ground law... which he claimed that he never heard of. and he used the terms and jargons that police officers typically used.
 
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Well if Zimmerman knew the selfdefense laws then was he defending himself during the past assaults? Just because someone takes a class on criminal justice doesn't make them goody two shoe. It just showed he knew what to say and how to play this.
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What is amazing is the way GZ plotted to get pinned to the ground and punched in the face. That is genius!
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What a shocker! He had a gun on him following a kid around.
 
Jiro said:
planned out? nope.

just prepared. for ie - he knew about Stand Your Ground law... which he claimed that he never heard of. and he used the terms and jargons that police officers typically used.
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I'm sure they taught him to punch himself in the face too. :lol:
 
Babyblue said:
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What a shocker! He had a gun on him following a kid around.
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And apparently, instead of going home the bigger than most men sized angry "kid" decided to confront. Bad choice.
 
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