Convicted cop killer executed in Texas

hoichi said:
the article says he killed a cop. unless i misread it.
as for getting executed for killing a police pooch thats an outrage of justice in my opinion!!
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no. he killed a cop (either an animal or human).

this is not an ordinary dog... this is a police dog that actually does a job for the public safety like... hunting you down when you run away from the law and finding an illegal drug that will save people's lives from being killed by you or your drug
 
I agreed, if there no smart criminals exists, we won't have tons of unsolved cases. So, since we got tons of unsolved cases, these crooks must be very smart but sadly, they screwed society instead.

hoichi said:
being an illegal isnt the point. i doubt citizenship mattered here
well the world is full of smart criminals.
wake up
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sonocativo said:
BUT you forgets... we are an animal, a very dangerous animal. We are the only animal that can reason... Fact !
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i never forgot that. now how is it reasonable another species whom you admit cannot reason be considered "a person" or "human" knowing it cannot itself reason?

indeed we are a very dangerous animal. how true.
but we are human, dogs are dogs. why the need to make either humans or dogs something we are not?
a dog is a dog
a person is a person
a dog is not a member of our species
i understand some here have difficulty with accepting the above. and im willing to learn here if someone can use reason and critical thinking to articulate an argument to sway me.
until then
regardless of what laws or definitions or political whim dictate reason that 'fact" cited in the quote tells me otherwise
 
ChicagoBlue2 said:
If I didn't know better, I'd say he has issues he needs to deal with.
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thats right. you don't know any better. show me where anything i have stated is unreasonable? we have differing opinions on some issues. its a discussion forum. we discuss issues, and topics. why do you have a hard time accepting that/


perhaps you need to look in the mirror. to thine own self be true. a little less striving to know me and little more striving to know thyself is in order.
 
Jiro said:
no. he killed a cop (either an animal or human).

this is not an ordinary dog... this is a police dog
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its a dog. a tool. we have bred and trained to do our bidding. it is a domesticated and highly trainable animal. it is a dog. it does not matter what "job" it has. it still is a dog. and a dog it will until its end remain. regardless on how much training or commands we give or teach it.

Jiro said:
that actually does a job for the public safety like... hunting you down when you run away from the law
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yes it is a trained wardog for the state. yes

Jiro said:
and finding an illegal drug that will save people's lives from being killed by you or your drug
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right. like prohibition has made drugs safer..
 
hoichi said:
i never forgot that. now how is it reasonable another species whom you admit cannot reason be considered "a person" or "human" knowing it cannot itself reason?

indeed we are a very dangerous animal. how true.
but we are human, dogs are dogs. why the need to make either humans or dogs something we are not?
a dog is a dog
a person is a person
a dog is not a member of our species
i understand some here have difficulty with accepting the above. and im willing to learn here if someone can use reason and critical thinking to articulate an argument to sway me.
until then
regardless of what laws or definitions or political whim dictate reason that 'fact" cited in the quote tells me otherwise
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We are a Mammal, an animal, classified as Humans. We unlike other mammals can reason and only one other shares a resemblence of having sex for pleasure is a dolphin... all other mammals mate purely to reproduce.
Yes a dog may be a dog, but if it has ajob and is trained as a partner, it would be treated equally. Dogs are even used in the Military for the very same reason to protect its partner. Sadly they get killed as well, but are also given the same service. If your child/family was to have one as a partner, would you object and rather them be the first line of defense? A dog is faster, more aggressive and can even distract from its partner.
 
Id rather have an attack trained alley cat, they can really do some damage !
 
sonocativo said:
We are a Mammal, an animal, classified as Humans. We unlike other mammals can reason and only one other shares a resemblence of having sex for pleasure is a dolphin... all other mammals mate purely to reproduce.
Yes a dog may be a dog, but if it has ajob and is trained as a partner, it would be treated equally. Dogs are even used in the Military for the very same reason to protect its partner. Sadly they get killed as well, but are also given the same service. If your child/family was to have one as a partner, would you object and rather them be the first line of defense? A dog is faster, more aggressive and can even distract from its partner.
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Some people do not believe that human is animal.
 
sonocativo said:
We are a Mammal, an animal, classified as Humans. We unlike other mammals can reason and only one other shares a resemblence of having sex for pleasure is a dolphin... all other mammals mate purely to reproduce.
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(drags cigarette, inhales deeply, exhales smoke int he shape of donkey kong.....)
ok

sonocativo said:
Yes a dog may be a dog, but if it has ajob and is trained as a partner, it would be treated equally. Dogs are even used in the Military for the very same reason to protect its partner. Sadly they get killed as well, but are also given the same service. If your child/family was to have one as a partner, would you object and rather them be the first line of defense? A dog is faster, more aggressive and can even distract from its partner.
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yes thats why dogs are used for those purposes. they are dogs. no one has denied the above. long before the idea of a police force or even a "state" we have been using dogs for the purpose of defense and war. no doubt
if that was an attempt to use reason to argue why police dogs should be considered human you failed.
 
hoichi said:
its a dog. a tool. we have bred and trained to do our bidding. it is a domesticated and highly trainable animal. it is a dog. it does not matter what "job" it has. it still is a dog. and a dog it will until its end remain. regardless on how much training or commands we give or teach it.



yes it is a trained wardog for the state. yes



right. like prohibition has made drugs safer..
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So, your arguement would validate we are a tool as well, we are trained and we fight for a higher up as well ( our government )
No different as a dog trained to fight for us, a higher up...
Just a domino effect. We are a war dog... no difference other than we walk upright, reason and can make things because we have evolved differently to adapt.
 
hoichi said:
(drags cigarette, inhales deeply, exhales smoke int he shape of donkey kong.....)
ok



yes thats why dogs are used for those purposes. they are dogs. no one has denied the above. long before the idea of a police force or even a "state" we have been using dogs for the purpose of defense and war. no doubt
if that was an attempt to use reason to argue why police dogs should be considered human you failed.
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Ok, you go first, Ill stand behind you with my dog. Dont want the dog to get hurt. Take donky kong with you, youll need it
 
sonocativo said:
So, your arguement would validate we are a tool as well, we are trained and we fight for a higher up as well ( our government )
No different as a dog trained to fight for us, a higher up...
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obviously human biengs can be used as tools by other human biengs and or entitie such as states. yes indeed how true.
but there is a difference. human beings can be used as tools. dogs can be used as tools. we are still completely different beings
humans
dogs

sonocativo said:
Just a domino effect. We are a war dog... no difference other than we walk upright, reason and can make things because we have evolved differently to adapt.
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no difference ah?
can we mate successfully with a pooch yet? further really biology aside. do you truly believe there is no difference between your mother, or you yourself and some old ladies pissing poodle?
really?
(drags cigarette, exhales smoke in the form of cujo.....)
 
well youre gonna die of lung cancer if you keep huffing on that cancer stick for starters, No, there are differences between us and dogs. We are all mammals but fall into different classifications. Simular to races.... there are differences. I wouldnt know about mating with a mutt, oviously you might? but we all start out as Females and once a horomone takes over then the sex is decided of male/female and thats why males have nipples. So you failed on that test.
 
yes your right. i did fail the test. a si really ave no clue what your on about

(drags cigarette...breaths deeply..exhales.....)

you did mention you knew about mating with pooches or something
.....
oic
 
hoichi said:
its acceptable humans have sex with other humans. (within age constraints)
it is never acceptable to have sex with a beats

it is acceptable to eat beasts for food. dogs, ect.
it is not acceptable to kill a human and eat a human for food.

we are discussing an animal, a k9, a beast. a domesticated animal. which also sin some people eyes meets the criteria as bieng a human.
ok then
fine
train a dog, strap a badge to it its now a person.
would you have sex with him/her?

even if the pooch,she /him was smookin cute?

why not?

i thought its a person? a human?
i thought theres no difference? some Buddhist thingamijig or something
what goes around and all that.......i thought the badge makes the beast now human
...
mmmm
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It used to be a hanging offense in Texas to steal a horse. I do think it is really quite simple ... if you do not want to be executed by the State of Texas, don't kill a police dog.
 
sonocativo said:
cause youd rather get shot first. Since you dont think a dog is good enough
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Here's something else. Many police departments are having bulletproof vests made specifically for dogs, so it'd be harder to kill them, unless the criminal had bullets that could go right through a bulletproof vest (among other things). Used to be they didn't, but now they're taking more precautions to protect their investments.
 
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