Cochlear Implant myths?

StSapphire said:
Another large reason for people getting them would be because parents who are unwilling to learn ASL for their children would rather get a magical medical device that will magically make them hearing again.
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yep heres my story with magic surgical to cure deafness

we have conduction hearing loss in the family(back in '93 i dont think they had audio bone headphones) and stuff

3 days b4 my 1st bday its tubes surgery to fix my hearing um it made it worse

now my parents wanted a magic fix hearing but ive never had surgery to fix ny other medical issuses WTF

a cast on a badly tumb was neccessary and would have done for an ab
 
just a drill in the skill
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My vote for best typo of the day. I'd HOPE that anyone drilling into my head was truly "in the skill." I don't want any unskilled drillers!
 
GrendelQ said:
And yet, at CI conferences -- where something like AD is an unknown entity for the most part -- the majority have signed or do sign with their children. It's just usually not their primary means of communication.
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Again the "sweep it under the carpet" community is not represented there. We will probably never know what the size of that community is, and it's probably a diminishing proportion of CI users in recent years as the realities are more widely circulated. In the early days of "miracle implant makes deaf hear again" media coverage there were many who leapt on the bandwagon. The parents of my implanted friend remortgaged their house to get her a CI to "make her deafness go away" (from their own perspective at least) and there is no chance they'd dream of attending any CI conference or indeed any non-mandatory medical appointment whatsoever, it's too much like admitting she's deaf and therefore (in their minds) defective. Even though she hated the CI and never wore it as soon as she reached her majority and resents her parents for even putting it in her (because of their motives and method, not the sheer fact she was implanted) they still obstinately believe that CI is a universal good that makes people hear again. What can you do with that?

There are many who are looking desperately for mainstream placements or aural/oral placements and CIs so their children are not (and this is a direct quote from a CI sugeon in a media article!!!) "condemned to a life of sign language". Because those people are not there when subsequent debates and events take place we don't know what size of a minority or possibly even a majority they are, but they are out there. How many attendees are there at the conferences compared to the pool of implanted persons who could attend? We just don't know what the others are up to.
 
"....condemned to a life of sign language...." ??
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not surprised, but saddened by that misconception that person appears to illustrate based on the the quote Rose mentions-
 
PFH: your "mythical contribution" can Cochlear Implant kill you? How does this supposedly happen? Excluding your hypothesis that one can implant and fatally injure themselves. Rechargeable batteries go "haywire"?

StShapphire-

I understand that there are far more adults than children implanted. Does that suggest that adults still need "their parents assistance" to decide to get implanted- Really? The potential benefit of "hearing" ignored: rather the "sole reason is NOT to learn say ASL? More myths?

Implanted-Sunnybrook Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07
 
Does having a Cochlear Implant help one learn ASL-easier?

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07
 
drphil said:
Does having a Cochlear Implant help one learn ASL-easier?

Implanted A B Harmony activated Aug/07
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Maybe, if you turn it off. I believe ASL is usually taught "voice off". For those of us who can hear, it's tempting to use our voice if we don't know how to sign something and have the person we're conversing with use their voice if we don't understand what they're signing.
 
If you don't talk with CI on and keeps signing then CI won't work for you.

Some professional people say that.

Signing have no affect how your CI performs.
 
Myth: CI aren't the same as HA.
To me, they are both the same as they aided you to hear better. Yes, they do their job differently but the end results is the same. I just see that statement as a political ploy to push CI on deaf population.

Some insurance won't cover 100% on HA but will cover 100% on CI.
Cochlear Implants - My Cochlear Implant Story
 
Really, the end result is the same? I thought that was not quite true.

I'm a hearing aid user and get enough benefit from them that I've been told a CI would not be necessary or particularly desirable for me. I thought the end results were somewhat different between the two.

I agree with your larger point that of course both are methods of aiding one's hearing.
 
drphil said:
If it was "so easy" for the "deaf" to"function without Cochlear Implants" for "hundreds/thousands of years-why the increase of persons getting Cochlear Implants over the last 30 years?
Note: I have been bilaterally deaf since December 20, 2006.

Implanted -Sunnybrook Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07
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You seem to overlook the fact that the vast majority of D/deaf do not have CI. And they are high functioning individuals.

On the other hand, I see at least one CI user that is low functioning.:cool2:
 
Beach girl said:
Really, the end result is the same? I thought that was not quite true.

I'm a hearing aid user and get enough benefit from them that I've been told a CI would not be necessary or particularly desirable for me. I thought the end results were somewhat different between the two.

I agree with your larger point that of course both are methods of aiding one's hearing.
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I am hearing aids user as well. I just don't like the story where one want a new hearing aid but couldn't afford it (especially high end like mine) but the insurance will cover 100% for CI.
 
LoveBlue said:
Maybe, if you turn it off. I believe ASL is usually taught "voice off". For those of us who can hear, it's tempting to use our voice if we don't know how to sign something and have the person we're conversing with use their voice if we don't understand what they're signing.
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Yes. To teach it any other way is to probably teach one of the MCE's.
 
Buffalo said:
I am hearing aids user as well. I just don't like the story where one want a new hearing aid but couldn't afford it (especially high end like mine) but the insurance will cover 100% for CI.
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That is a direct result of CI manufacturers convincing insurance companies that the CI is more cost effective in the long run. Of course, that is not true, but numbers are manipulated and illogical and false conclusions presented.
 
LoveBlue said:
Maybe, if you turn it off. I believe ASL is usually taught "voice off". For those of us who can hear, it's tempting to use our voice if we don't know how to sign something and have the person we're conversing with use their voice if we don't understand what they're signing.
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just spell out the word that you don't know the sign for and they will show you.
 
jillio said:
You seem to overlook the fact that the vast majority of D/deaf do not have CI. And they are high functioning individuals.

On the other hand, I see at least one CI user that is low functioning.:cool2:
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I would hope it's not me. :lol:
 
Buffalo said:
Myth: CI aren't the same as HA.
To me, they are both the same as they aided you to hear better. Yes, they do their job differently but the end results is the same. I just see that statement as a political ploy to push CI on deaf population.

Some insurance won't cover 100% on HA but will cover 100% on CI.
Cochlear Implants - My Cochlear Implant Story
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People seem to overlook the fact that they are both assistive devices. One is invasive, one is not.
 
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