Cochlear Implant myths?

[jillio]

I don't think those shots actually protect from viral meningitis.

You are correct. They protect from bacterial. And not even all the forms of bacterial. So, even with vaccination, there is still an increased risk.

 

[Beowulf]

Mercy me, it is a solid myth that CI's are low-maintenance.

 

[sallylou]

Myth: All late-deafened people want CIs because they cannot fit into Deaf culture.

Evidence that proves this myth is false: I'm Exhibit "A," a late-deafened person who identifies with Deaf culture and does not want CIs.

 

[jillio]

Myth: a child that is implanted as an infant will develop spoken language the same way a hearing child does.

Myth: the student using a CI will not require the same accommodations that a student using and HA will require.

 

[bbaseballboy123]

Myth: a child that is implanted as an infant will develop spoken language the same way a hearing child does.

Myth: the student using a CI will not require the same accommodations that a student using and HA will require.

1. I do actually know a few kids from camp i attended to a few years ago that had implants since they were babies, and they did indeed talk "deaf" so you are right, not all CI babies will develop speaking skills as well as a CI baby who speaks just fine.

2. I know both CI users and non-CI users have accommodations, but I think CI users use less accommodations, as you dont need an interpreter all the time ( if you struggle lip reading). I dont think a non-CI can survive mainstream education (elementary to high school) because I went 6-8 weeks without hearing, had to have an interpreter, i struggled and hated school. I actually left school early each day because I was stressing out, and grades dropped dramatically.

 

[Banjo]

I know both CI users and non-CI users have accommodations, but I think CI users use less accommodations, as you dont need an interpreter all the time ( if you struggle lip reading). I dont think a non-CI can survive mainstream education (elementary to high school) because I went 6-8 weeks without hearing, had to have an interpreter, i struggled and hated school. I actually left school early each day because I was stressing out, and grades dropped dramatically.

Um, non-CI users can survive mainstream education just fine if given the proper accommodations. You only have a negative perspective of it because you never adapted to their way of living.

 

[Mudkipz]

1. I do actually know a few kids from camp i attended to a few years ago that had implants since they were babies, and they did indeed talk "deaf" so you are right, not all CI babies will develop speaking skills as well as a CI baby who speaks just fine.

2. I know both CI users and non-CI users have accommodations, but I think CI users use less accommodations, as you dont need an interpreter all the time ( if you struggle lip reading). I dont think a non-CI can survive mainstream education (elementary to high school) because I went 6-8 weeks without hearing, had to have an interpreter, i struggled and hated school. I actually left school early each day because I was stressing out, and grades dropped dramatically.

Well what you expect? If you go to a school without hearing, you must have an interpreter and accommodations and then you'll succeed without excuses, easily. Unless the interpreter is horrible, then that's what note-takers are for, but if they are as well, then... well they shouldn't be there in the first place. :P

 

[Lissa]

A non-CI user can survive mainstream education. My school for the deaf allowed us to go to the local primary for classes to help us intergrate. I used to go over for English, and the only accomodation I had was an FM system. At the time I had bilateral hearing aids

 

[Lissa]

Myth: A implant gives you normal hearing

 

[deafskeptic]

Myth: a child that is implanted as an infant will develop spoken language the same way a hearing child does.

Myth: the student using a CI will not require the same accommodations that a student using and HA will require.

Yep. When I was in rehabitation a year or so ago due to a severe case of cellulitis, one of the PTs saw my CI and then told me about a little boy who was 3 who was unable to adjust to his CI and kept tearing it out despite mappings and efforts to make him wear it. He never developed good speech and got enrolled in a signing program.

 

[shel90]

1. I do actually know a few kids from camp i attended to a few years ago that had implants since they were babies, and they did indeed talk "deaf" so you are right, not all CI babies will develop speaking skills as well as a CI baby who speaks just fine.

2. I know both CI users and non-CI users have accommodations, but I think CI users use less accommodations, as you dont need an interpreter all the time ( if you struggle lip reading). I dont think a non-CI can survive mainstream education (elementary to high school) because I went 6-8 weeks without hearing, had to have an interpreter, i struggled and hated school. I actually left school early each day because I was stressing out, and grades dropped dramatically.

Non-CI user, profoundly deaf with a 110-120 dB loss in both ears since birth, ....was mainstreamed with no interpreters or anything but did learn. However, since getting an interpreter in college, I did exceptionally well and I was able to participate in class.

What's wrong with having a terp unless you are embarassed that you are a deaf person?

 

[bbaseballboy123]

Non-CI user, profoundly deaf with a 110-120 dB loss in both ears since birth, ....was mainstreamed with no interpreters or anything but did learn. However, since getting an interpreter in college, I did exceptionally well and I was able to participate in class.

What's wrong with having a terp unless you are embarassed that you are a deaf person?

I dont know how to read lips or know sign. All i got is a notetaker (which is enough) aand.... thats about it for accommodation at school. Thats not including the teacher for the deaf.

Again and again, i have to repeat myself on here, I dont give a fvck about being deaf, people ask, i just explain what it is, and thats it. Occationally i would joke around with deafness if its related to the topic lol. I'm never offended if they ask, im actually happy they ask as it raises awareness. But, as stated, I got a notetaker and shes pretty damn awesome, I am not embarrassed at all with her in the classroom.

Imo, the most embarrassing thing to have in school is some resource teacher in all of your classes on top of your shoulders "so you need to do this paper now" "no texting!" "come on, focus"

 

[shel90]

I dont know how to read lips or know sign. All i got is a notetaker (which is enough) aand.... thats about it for accommodation at school. Thats not including the teacher for the deaf.

that is what I always have a problem with the philosophy of AVT...ban ASL and lipreading skills from deaf CI users.

It is not good to solely rely on your CI 100%. You need other skills and so do many other children with CIs. You all are not hearing people.

 

[bbaseballboy123]

that is what I always have a problem with the philosophy of AVT...ban ASL and lipreading skills from deaf CI users.

It is not good to solely rely on your CI 100%. You need other skills and so do many other children with CIs. You all are not hearing people.

Sorry about the edit

 

[shel90]

Sorry about the edit

I am referring to the AVT specialists and speech therapists who hold that view, not you. I have seen many other children in your shoes left unable to function without their CIs when many deaf people for hundreds of years have done fine without CIs.

 

[drphil]

If it was "so easy" for the "deaf" to"function without Cochlear Implants" for "hundreds/thousands of years-why the increase of persons getting Cochlear Implants over the last 30 years?
Note: I have been bilaterally deaf since December 20, 2006.

Implanted -Sunnybrook Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07

 

[StSapphire]

If it was "so easy" for the "deaf" to"function without Cochlear Implants" for "hundreds/thousands of years-why the increase of persons getting Cochlear Implants over the last 30 years?

Well, for one, it's a technology that was only made commercially available in the past 30 years, so naturally more people are going to get them since they were invented than before they were.

Another large reason for people getting them would be because parents who are unwilling to learn ASL for their children would rather get a magical medical device that will magically make them hearing again.

 

[GrendelQ]

Well, for one, it's a technology that was only made commercially available in the past 30 years, so naturally more people are going to get them since they were invented than before they were.

Another large reason for people getting them would be because parents who are unwilling to learn ASL for their children would rather get a magical medical device that will magically make them hearing again.

Do you think there are fewer hearing parents learning ASL to communicate with their deaf children than 30 years ago? That would surprise me.

At CI conferences, I'd say a majority of parents said they had at some point or still do use some sign with their children. All of the parents of kids with CIs here on AD have used or now use sign with their child. Among the Deaf here without CIs, it seems that most came frm families that did not sign. Maybe CIs are producing an increase in signing families.

 

[RoseRodent]

All of the parents of kids with CIs here on AD have used or now use sign with their child.

Most people who make a prolonged commitment to an environment like AD are people who actively engage with the deaf community. There are many more who shy away from it, try to hide it. I think the magical curative device phenomenon is probably more prevalent than people who use a CI as part of a range of communication methods.

 

[GrendelQ]

Most people who make a prolonged commitment to an environment like AD are people who actively engage with the deaf community. There are many more who shy away from it, try to hide it. I think the magical curative device phenomenon is probably more prevalent than people who use a CI as part of a range of communication methods.

And yet, at CI conferences -- where something like AD is an unknown entity for the most part -- the majority have signed or do sign with their children. It's just usually not their primary means of communication.

It's pretty much only those who aren't all that intimate with CIs who think of them as "magical curative devices." Most of those of us who live with them think of them as great tools -- we know that we or our children are deaf, not "cured".