CI--Deaf or Hearing?

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Shoshana said:
I can see you are trying to make me say it "cut and dry" when it can not be put in such a way--I hear SOUNDS but can not determine what it is, or where it is coming from....just SOUND....is that hearing? Where is the line from hearing noise and hearing/understanding speach, and other enviromental sounds?

If a car was coming from my left side I will turn to my right, in the time to react Id probley get hit by a car. (THANK GOD FOR SERVICE DOG!)

Sometimes there are benifits sure, to being able to hear some sounds (without understanding) like--The base of some music--no words and no insturments but just the core beat part (I dont know what this is called?) but by far the cons here outweight the "good".


I was saying, Id rather not hear NOISE, if I was anticipating to HEAR.

Its anoying.


I do think parents and other people need to know this, Ive met many people who think because I have the implant I hear perfectly, far from it! I think many people and parents go into having operation with the expectation that after all is said and done they will be Hearing. Hear perfectly or close to it. Need no other assistance.

MAYBE this IS true for SOME people, but not most im sure.

I recently met a woman who was late deafened and we started talking about the CI--She was expecting it to sound perfect, hear everything--Would it be right to falsley lead her on to believe this WILL happen when even with the CI she will at best reach HOH levels and MIGHT not hear such and such and such? and IF she was able to hear, who is to say it will be ANYTHING like she remembers (expecting)?
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Audiofuzzy said:
Not about speech, she didn't.

Very vaguely, she said about hearing sound in general.

I specifically asked Shoshana if she can hear SPEECH with CI on better.

Fuzzy
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This better? If she says she can't determine what the sound is, then I would assume that she would not be able to understand speech very well. She also said, she relies on lipreading.
 
Beach girl said:
So true. I find it really bizarre when a hearing person tells a HoH or deaf person that the hearing person knows all about what HoH/deaf people should do, and that somehow the HoH/deaf person is "doing it wrong" if his/her experience of many years is different from what the hearing person thinks it should have been.
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Boy, are you confused about what sallylou was referring to!:lol:
 
Beach girl said:
So true. I find it really bizarre when a hearing person tells a HoH or deaf person that the hearing person knows all about what HoH/deaf people should do, and that somehow the HoH/deaf person is "doing it wrong" if his/her experience of many years is different from what the hearing person thinks it should have been.
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I couldn't agree more. That's why I told a poster the other day that I did not like some of his posts. No hearie that has not had any or much exposure to the deaf should be telling us how it should be.
 
AlleyCat said:
I couldn't agree more. That's why I told a poster the other day that I did not like some of his posts. No hearie that has not had any or much exposure to the deaf should be telling us how it should be.
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And I feel the same way about the late deafened and HOH that attempt to tell the prelingually deafened how it is.
 
AlleyCat said:
I couldn't agree more. That's why I told a poster the other day that I did not like some of his posts. No hearie that has not had any or much exposure to the deaf should be telling us how it should be.
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jillio said:
And I feel the same way about the late deafened and HOH that attempt to tell the prelingually deafened how it is.
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I just hate everybody equally! :P
 
I would appreciate very much if everyone stop butting in and let Shoshana
answer my simple question FOR HERSELF.

It's simple YES or NO -

yes, I can understand speech better with CI on,
or NO, i can't understand speech better with CI on.

Thank you.

Fuzzy
 
Audiofuzzy said:
I would appreciate very much if everyone stop butting in and let Shoshana
answer my simple question FOR HERSELF.

It's simple YES or NO -

yes, I can understand speech better with CI on,
or NO, i can't understand speech better with CI on.

Thank you.

Fuzzy
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Oh shut up. Shoshana is the OP of this thread. She can say if she minds the rest of us having input.
 
Audiofuzzy said:
I would appreciate very much if everyone stop butting in and let Shoshana
answer my simple question FOR HERSELF.

It's simple YES or NO -

yes, I can understand speech better with CI on,
or NO, i can't understand speech better with CI on.

Thank you.

Fuzzy
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I would appreciate it if you would stop trying to play your audist word games in an attempt to get the answer you want rather than the one you got. You get really hateful when people don't buy the audist BS.
 
Dear Audiofuzzy,
You're not the boss of me. This is not your forum. Your entitled attitude is annoying.

Sincerely yours.
 
Glad that I can provide some comic relief. :lol:
 
jillio said:
What it is in reality is wishful thinking.
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Yep. I can hear at 20 dbs with my CI but if there's any background noise or if I don't know the person well, I have to depend on lip reading.
 
deafskeptic said:
Yep. I can hear at 20 dbs with my CI but if there's any background noise or if I don't know the person well, I have to depend on lip reading.
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Which is true for a lot of prelingually deaf adults who have been implanted.

YES, they hear environmental sounds well, but, their SPEECH PERCEPTION is often dodgy; even in the most ideal environments.
 
Frisky Feline said:
LOL I have not met a deaf audiologist yet. :lol:
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There's a deaf audiologist who himself has at least one CI that I know of (not sure if he has one or two). He is awesome in the sense that he knows what he is talking about, and he does not push anything on parents or patients. He is by far the one of the most professional and unbiased person in the deaf field I know.

Now, imagine sitting and listening to him - this person who is clearly educated in the field of audiology who himself is deaf plus uses a CI to tell the audience that CI does NOT do the things that many people say they do.

I LOVE it. I cannot express how badly I wish he was a member of this forum. He's too busy (yes, I've asked him!).
 
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