Canada Election 2011

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Yup, I'm worried about how Conservatives treat GLBT people in Canada and hopefully they won't take marriage away.

However, I see Conservative as less evil than Republican Party.

Our Conservative Party is generally seen as being somewhat liberal.
 
It's official: Ignatieff lost his own riding. Liberal leadership convention to follow...
 
If she only hold out in the debate on T.V. but the broadcasting company turned her down. No wonder she did not have a chance to express her feeling about her topic and debate with the four men candidates. That is discrimination on their parts including the broadcasting company. :mad:

Yep, it look like the Conservation is winning over NDP. To me, it is not good. :ugh:

The media did nothing.

If you don't know: the Conservatives, Liberals and NDP threatened to walk out if the Green Party showed up at the debates. This is why Farley Mowat started supporting the Green this year because according to him, a truly tolerant and democratic nation would not make such threats.

So it got nothing to do with the media, it has to do with the other three parties.
 
The media did nothing.

If you don't know: the Conservatives, Liberals and NDP threatened to walk out if the Green Party showed up at the debates. This is why Farley Mowat started supporting the Green this year because according to him, a truly tolerant and democratic nation would not make such threats.

So it got nothing to do with the media, it has to do with the other three parties.

Mowat deserves kudos for his support for a tolerant and democratic nation.
 
Well...

On the one hand, am glad the NDP didn't win majority since I was hoping for a NDP/Liberals coalition, since I don't think Canada is ready to be a democratic socialist country like Finland, Germany et cetera, and a minority government with the moderate Liberals to balance out the playing field would be good for Canada. To be fair, NDP isn't that far left-leaning since they are still somewhat more conservative than the Democrats on the grand scale of thing, the only difference is the NDP is a labour rights party; the United States will never see a labour rights party rise to power.

However, the idea of a Tory majority scares me. Not because of human rights, or anything like that. It's more fear of their historical tendency of favouring corporates over small businesses. Oh well, maybe we will see the gun registry repelled and shut down. However I doubt they will toss out the Firearms Act though since the Liberals would reinstate it in the next election if Harper touches it.

Now that I think about it, the NDP is a better Opposition Party than the Liberals are anyway. The Liberals are too moderate to take a solid stand against Harper. The whole set up is kind of like the British two-party system: one stands for labour rights, and the other is a conservative. I can't imagine anything more perfect than that.
 
Well...

On the one hand, am glad the NDP didn't win majority since I was hoping for a NDP/Liberals coalition, since I don't think Canada is ready to be a democratic socialist country like Finland, Germany et cetera, and a minority government with the moderate Liberals to balance out the playing field would be good for Canada. To be fair, NDP isn't that far left-leaning since they are still somewhat more conservative than the Democrats on the grand scale of thing, the only different is the NDP is a labour rights party; the United States will never see a labour rights party rise to power.

However, the idea of a Tory majority scares me. Not because of human rights, or anything like that. It's more fear of their historical tendency of favouring corporates over small businesses. Oh well, maybe we will see the gun registry repelled and shut down. However I doubt they will toss out the Firearms Act though since the Liberals would reinstate it in the next election if Harper touches it.

Now that I think about it, the NDP is a better Opposition Party than the Liberals are anyway. The Liberals are too moderate to take a solid stand against Harper. The whole set up is kind of like the British two-party system: one stands for labour rights, and the other is a conservative. I can't imagine anything more perfect than that.
While I agree that a labor rights party is unlikely to rise in US given the current climate, I wouldn't say it would never happen.

Sometimes I think the Democrats are too milquetoast but on the other hand I would not want to follow the example of someone like Trump or G.W. Bush.
 
Ignatieff, Duceppe step down. I was so happy to see the separatist party get destroyed. It has no place in federal politics.
 
Like Souggy, I would not have minded a NDP/Liberal coalition. It was when they were getting the Bloc involved that I was not happy.
 
Well...

On the one hand, am glad the NDP didn't win majority since I was hoping for a NDP/Liberals coalition, since I don't think Canada is ready to be a democratic socialist country like Finland, Germany et cetera, and a minority government with the moderate Liberals to balance out the playing field would be good for Canada. To be fair, NDP isn't that far left-leaning since they are still somewhat more conservative than the Democrats on the grand scale of thing, the only difference is the NDP is a labour rights party; the United States will never see a labour rights party rise to power.

However, the idea of a Tory majority scares me. Not because of human rights, or anything like that. It's more fear of their historical tendency of favouring corporates over small businesses. Oh well, maybe we will see the gun registry repelled and shut down. However I doubt they will toss out the Firearms Act though since the Liberals would reinstate it in the next election if Harper touches it.

Now that I think about it, the NDP is a better Opposition Party than the Liberals are anyway. The Liberals are too moderate to take a solid stand against Harper. The whole set up is kind of like the British two-party system: one stands for labour rights, and the other is a conservative. I can't imagine anything more perfect than that.

Same here, the reason why I'm not too thrilled about having a Tory majority is due to their favouritism toward the corporations rather than the small business owners and average taxpayers. As far I am concerned, the middle class and below have not benefited from having a Tory minority government.

Not to mention that we have one of the lowest corporate taxes in the world. Every time they lower the corporate tax, more small businesses go out of business due to the intense competition.
 
Yup, I'm worried about how Conservatives treat GLBT people in Canada and hopefully they won't take marriage away.

However, I see Conservative as less evil than Republican Party.

:facepalm:

Our Conservative government will NOT ban the gay marriages and rights in any ways and degrees! PM Harper already repeatedly said that he would not do it because of the Supreme Court of Canada ruling that he greatly respects.

Even they will NOT ban or block the women's rights to have abortion because of the Supreme Court of Canada ruling.

They have done great to new Canadians (immigrants) by simplifying the immigration procedure and making the guideline more clear for them to understand and follow.

That is why 65 percent of Chinese Canadians and more or less 54 percent of new Canadians voted for the Conservatives.
 
Thank God the stupid coalition is dead as a stone.

It clearly shows that many Canadians got pissed off with too many elections in seven years. I hope the Conservative majority government will set their path clear to show what they will do with our issues in next four years. They have deserved a chance to have a majority government.
 
Ignatieff, Duceppe step down. I was so happy to see the separatist party get destroyed. It has no place in federal politics.

Sadly the defeated BQ M.P.s will receive their federal pensions.
 
Same here, the reason why I'm not too thrilled about having a Tory majority is due to their favouritism toward the corporations rather than the small business owners and average taxpayers. As far I am concerned, the middle class and below have not benefited from having a Tory minority government.

Not to mention that we have one of the lowest corporate taxes in the world. Every time they lower the corporate tax, more small businesses go out of business due to the intense competition.

At least they have managed our economy well and we are the first G8 and G20 country to get out of recession. If they corporations are heavily taxed, you will see them lay off thousands of employees.
 
:facepalm:

Our Conservative government will NOT ban the gay marriages and rights in any ways and degrees! PM Harper already repeatedly said that he would not do it because of the Supreme Court of Canada ruling that he greatly respects.

Even they will NOT ban or block the women's rights to have abortion because of the Supreme Court of Canada ruling.

They have done great to new Canadians (immigrants) by simplifying the immigration procedure and making the guideline more clear for them to understand and follow.

That is why 65 percent of Chinese Canadians and more or less 54 percent of new Canadians voted for the Conservatives.

Hey, please don't facepalm at me, Stephen Harper tried to do it in 2005-2006 but failed because conservatives aren't majority at earlier and now, they are majority so made me to worry about situation with GLBT rights, especially same-sex marriage that Harper doesn't support but he has no problem with same-sex unions.
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I don't know about requirement to change the constitution to override the Canada Supreme Court ruling.
 
There have had several significant events which happened last night:

- Most female MPs - 69

- Many well-known Liberal incumbents were defeated especially in Ontario.

- Most aboriginal MPs - 7

- The vote turnout was slightly increased.

- It is the first time in the Canadian election history that two opposition leaders lost in their respective riding.

- At least four Conservative cabinet ministers lost their seats.

- One NDP candidate won her riding in Quebec while she was vacationing in Las Vegas during the campaign.
 
At least they have managed our economy well and we are the first G8 and G20 country to get out of recession. If they corporations are taxed, you will see them lay off thousands of employees.

Um, the corporations are already being taxed. It's just that they shouldn't be lowering it when it's already pretty low to start with. 16.5% is pretty low, it was lowered from 18% a few months ago. In the USA, the federal corporate tax is 15% to 35%, although 15% is for $50,000 and below. Above $50,000, it's 25% plus $7,500. For an income of at least $15 million, they will charge $5,150,000 plus 38%.

Source: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1120.pdf

However, the low corporate tax in Canada isn't stopping them from laying off a lot of their employees. Here's a little known fact, the more employees a CEO fire, the bigger the bonus they receive. The worst part is, a lot of these corporations weren't having financial troubles in the first place. So why are they firing all these people? They clearly have no interest in supporting the economy.

Try to not fool yourself into thinking that the low corporate tax results in a higher employment rate because it doesn't. Every time they lower the corporate tax, more small businesses go out of business. Therefore, these people end up having to work for the corporations because they don't have much of a choice.

The Tories didn't have much of a hand in the recovery. The banks did. Thanks to the regulations that were made for the banks in Canada, we didn't have to take a hard punch in the gut like the USA did. Jim Flaherty isn't that great of a Finance Minister. I mean, he did leave us with a deficit of $6 billion in Ontario. He's not exactly a honest fellow either regarding the economy.
 
Don't facepalm at me, Stephen Harper tried to do it in 2005-2006 but failed because conservatives aren't majority at earlier and now, they are majority so made me to worry about situation with GLBT rights, especially same-sex marriage that Harper doesn't support but he has no problem with same-sex unions.
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I don't know about requirement to change the constitution to override the Canada Supreme Court ruling.

You are wrong again. It would not make any difference because the SCOC will overrule it anyways. Harper knows it damn well.

I have followed the Canadian politics very heavily for a long time and that is why I am very familiar with the parties and where they stand on issues.
 
Hey, please don't facepalm at me, Stephen Harper tried to do it in 2005-2006 but failed because conservatives aren't majority at earlier and now, they are majority so made me to worry about situation with GLBT rights, especially same-sex marriage that Harper doesn't support but he has no problem with same-sex unions.
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I don't know about requirement to change the constitution to override the Canada Supreme Court ruling.

ssssshhhhhhh - it's best not to argue with a Canadian if you're not very familiar with Canadian government system
 
You are wrong again. It would not make any difference because the SCOC will overrule it anyways.

I have followed the Canadian politics very heavily for a long time and that is why I am very familiar with the parties and where they stand on issues.

Well, what about Stephen Harper? He doesn't support gay marriage but only for civil unions, that what his view stands for and link about his view doesn't lie.

Does Canada have any way to override Canada Supreme Court decision? In US, we can by pass the new amendment but require 2/3 in congress and 1/3 from states.
 
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