Can you bear the truth?

[Angel]

I'm a Christian myself here, and I could never want to hurt anyone's feeling whether or not it is against what I believe in, I had a divorce, and living with someone who I am not married, so go ahead and judge me , tell me I will go to hell, do whatever you want to say, cause I don't care what you think, God only know what is in my heart, and you don't....

Now, members are going to start keeping their stories to themselves cause people like you just shovel the bible right at their face or what you believe in and then end up hurting their feelings....NICE!...

 

[FeistyChick]

The difference is whether or not we admit it was a "mistake" (sin), and repent (change our ways).

Here is the proper Christian attitude:
I admit that I committed sins. I admit that my mistakes were sins, that they were wrong. Then I ask God to forgive me, and help me turn away from those sins and not repeat them. I know my sins are NOT OK.

Here is the different attitude:
People say they made mistakes but those are not sins. They don't want to change, and they just continue making the same "mistake" again. They want people to accept their sins as OK.

I can judge by seeing mothers who had an abortion,
and then these same mothers still got pregnant again
as an unwed mother who did not learn any lessons...
However, I cannot call them "Sluts" or "Whores" because
that would be too harsh so I try to think of
a better word maybe "Jezebel" or women with low morals >>> quoted by Y

she says she can judge by seeing mothers who had abortions blah blah but can't call them a slut/whores, etc blah blah cuz it is too harsh.. it is STILL JUDGING regardless.. sheesh! so people need to keep things/their opinions/beliefs to themselves regardless..

 

[FeistyChick]

So you are calling these women sluts who had abortions because they were raped??????

So you are calling these women sluts who had abortions because their boyfriends ran off? Men do LIE and many run off, refusing to be responsible for their sperm donation.

So you are calling tehse women sluts who had abortions because ythey were in teens and never got any proper public health information about sex and most may have parents who neglected them and they didn't know any better??

You should stop judging the WHOLE population and look at case by case situation. Each situation is unique. Yes, abortion is horrible but so are the circumstances leading up to it with a few exceptions. You need to stop judging the whole population.

I suggest that you spend a weekend at an abortion clinic and talk to these women and put yourself in their shoes before you feel you are entitled to pass out harsh judgements.

Morality does not always play a role in this - many women have abortions despite their morals but because of socioencomoical status, educationl, age, lack of male support, etc.

well said meggie!! i couldn't have said it better!

 

[FeistyChick]

Now, members are going to start keeping their stories to themselves cause people like you just shovel the bible right at their face or what you believe in and then end up hurting their feelings....NICE!...

i thought this is a place where we can come to have share our laughs and experiences/stories .. but with people like you shoving it like angiepoo stated in above.. will make people not want to share their experiences/stories.. sheesh.. i am VERY DISAPPOINTED in those who are HEARTLESS AND INSENSITIVE to others! knock it off!!

 

[Angel]

i thought this is a place where we can come to have share our laughs and experiences/stories .. but with people like you shoving it like angiepoo stated in above.. will make people not want to share their experiences/stories.. sheesh.. i am VERY DISAPPOINTED in those who are HEARTLESS AND INSENSITIVE to others! knock it off!!

Actually I know why this member is doing this on purpose cause she keeps talking bad about you girls, want to hurt you girls and that not Christianable to me!...

Yep, I'm going to tell them the truth Y!...I won't stand here and let you keep doing this to them in private OR in the open forum! tsk tsk

 

[FeistyChick]

As a Christian myself, I want to make this clear
that I do have the right to judge them by
see the actions while only the Lord can judge
them through their hearts inside. What did I mean
about judge others ? For example, I judge against
any woman who murdered her baby "Abortion"
EXCEPT the ones who had an abortion (for medical reasons)

I can judge by seeing mothers who had an abortion,
and then these same mothers still got pregnant again
as an unwed mother who did not learn any lessons...
However, I cannot call them "Sluts" or "Whores" because
that would be too harsh so I try to think of
a better word maybe "Jezebel" or women with low morals.
It's so obvious when an unwed mother has a child then
that's a proof enough what she did
with the Father of the child ? Pre-marital sex.
Obviously why did she open her legs in the first place ?
And, then get an abortion/murder...
Aw come on, gimme a break.
Any murderers should go to Jail / Prison....

and the funny thing is.. you say you are a "TRUE" christian?????? hmmm.... But you BACKSTAB me and others... so thats two timer.. which is very interesting because i believe it is a BIG in the bible!! so go ahead say bad things about me.. i don't really care cuz you can't hurt me..

 

[FeistyChick]

Actually I know why this member is doing this on purpose cause she keeps talking bad about you girls, want to hurt you girls and that not Christianable to me!...

Yep, I'm going to tell them the truth Y!...I won't stand here and let you keep doing this to them in private OR in the open forum! tsk tsk

ANGIEPOO.. it is ok honey.. take it easy.. don't let her get to you.. she can't hurt us.. we know better than that.. she is HURTING herself more and more by doing this.. TRUST ME on this, dear.. let her run her mouth/fingers.. and make a fool/an ass out of herself.. tsk tsk and i think the reason why she is doing this is because she is MISERABLE.. and not WELL-LIKED by anyone just like we are?? ever think about that??

 

[Gemtun]

Actually I know why this member is doing this on purpose cause she keeps talking bad about you girls, want to hurt you girls and that not Christianable to me!...

Yep, I'm going to tell them the truth Y!...I won't stand here and let you keep doing this to them in private OR in the open forum! tsk tsk

Perfect example of a hypocrite Christian who gets delight out of judging others harshly or talking bad about others to make HERSELF feel good. Calling a woman slut or Jezebel is very insulting - Jesus never called Madgalene a slut. Instead, Jesus embraced her and helped her improve herself. Jesus never tried to undermine anyone.

I don't give a damn what she says about me. I know who I am and will remain true to myself.

 

[Angel]

ANGIEPOO.. it is ok honey.. take it easy.. don't let her get to you.. she can't hurt us.. we know better than that.. she is HURTING herself more and more by doing this.. TRUST ME on this, dear.. let her run her mouth/fingers.. and make a fool/an ass out of herself.. tsk tsk

ok *tears*....

 

[Gemtun]

ok *tears*....

Angel, there are people like that out in the world who tries to get power out of putting others down.

I know you want to see everyone embrace everyone with love, compassion and respect but this is cold hard reality.

 

[FeistyChick]

ok *tears*....

here is a she is not worth to cry over dear!! laugh your ass off at her!! be strong like i am with her..

 

[FeistyChick]

Perfect example of a hypocrite Christian who gets delight out of judging others harshly or talking bad about others to make HERSELF feel good. Calling a woman slut or Jezebel is very insulting - Jesus never called Madgalene a slut. Instead, Jesus embraced her and helped her improve herself. Jesus never tried to undermine anyone.

I don't give a damn what she says about me. I know who I am and will remain true to myself.

well said meggiepoo!! just like what i was trying to say too!! (similar!) those people are worthless..

 

[Cheri]

BIG THUMBS FOR YOU!

I knew you were going to agree with that comment, I think you should take your signature off, You mocking God. You are no Christen in my eyes. Those people who are Christen who judged, should be shamed of themselves if they read the bible daily and is a true Christen, and judged and calling someone names or muderer, It wasn't anyone rights to judge, Only God. Do you still do it? Yes. I guess you Christen haven't learn your lesson. Good Grief!

 

[Reba]

So you are calling these women sluts who had abortions because they were raped??????

I prefer to stay away from calling names.

Morality does not always play a role in this - many women have abortions despite their morals but because of socioencomoical status, educationl, age, lack of male support, etc.

The factors that go into the abortion decision vary, but the final decision is a moral one. The factors might be socioeconomic but the decision is a moral choice. The moral question is, "What is more important to me, the baby's life or my socioeconomic status?" "What is more important to me, the baby's life or my lifestyle?" "What is more important to me, the baby's life or my education?"

 

[Cheri]

The difference is whether or not we admit it was a "mistake" (sin), and repent (change our ways).

Here is the proper Christian attitude:
I admit that I committed sins. I admit that my mistakes were sins, that they were wrong. Then I ask God to forgive me, and help me turn away from those sins and not repeat them. I know my sins are NOT OK.

Here is the different attitude:
People say they made mistakes but those are not sins. They don't want to change, and they just continue making the same "mistake" again. They want people to accept their sins as OK.

How do you know that we never committed our sins? What do you mean by changing out ways are you talking about abortion or are you talking about unweb mothers who have children?

 

[Gemtun]

I prefer to stay away from calling names.



The factors that go into the abortion decision vary, but the final decision is a moral one. The factors might be socioeconomic but the decision is a moral choice. The moral question is, "What is more important to me, the baby's life or my socioeconomic status?" "What is more important to me, the baby's life or my lifestyle?" "What is more important to me, the baby's life or my education?"

Reba, I wasnt referring to you who did the name calling. It was to Y. Yes she is entitled to her opinions but there is no need to do name callings.

Like I suggested to Y, you need to spend a weekend at an abortion clinic to put yourself in their shoes. You will be amazed by their heartbreaking answers. Not everyone were raised like you, Reba. You are fortunate not to have to face such situations and your faith keeps you going. But there are many other women who are not fortunate like you and have to resort to such situations. Thus, there is no need to assume that the whole population is without any moral conscience when doing the procedure. Just remember that not everyone are like you, Reba. Poverty is a huge factor. Lack of male support is a huge factor. Youth is a huge factor. Lack of education is a factor. I could go on and on. It does not always boil down to morality when someone is down on rock bottom, desperately seeking a solution that is not always wise but nonetheless seem feasible for time being. I have counseled many women who had abortions. Every single of them carrys HUGE guilt. Every single of them will never forget it.

 

[Y]

Excuse me? If you want to call someone a slut then say it. What makes you so damn perfect anyway? You are no better than me or anyone else who are unwed, We do not get married because there a child involved. You get married out of love. No wonder why there too many divorce in the United States because people rush to get married. You have no right to judge, You were not in our feet to walk the steps.

Cheri,

Yes, I do have the right to make judgements by
just looking at your actions/behaviors only as an example,
but as long as the Lord makes the final judgements himself.
I never said that I'm so damn perfect anyway. (Hugs)

 

[Gemtun]

Cheri,

Yes, I do have the right to make judgements
by just looking at your actions/behaviors, but
as long as the Lord makes the final judgement himself.
I never said that I'm so damn perfect anyway. (Hugs)

Why give Cheri a hug when you have done nothing but backstabbed her? Please no more being 2 faced.

 

[Cheri]

Cheri,

Yes, I do have the right to make judgements by
just looking at your actions/behaviors only as an example,
but as long as the Lord makes the final judgements himself.
I never said that I'm so damn perfect anyway. (Hugs)

My action and my behaviors explain that?

 

[Gemtun]

I bow out of this thread. I am dangerously close to losing my temper.

Peace to you all.