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Banjo said:
Well, I'll ask you a more specific question...

About these different religions with different Gods, do you believe they are entitled to the same rights as Christians in the USA?
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God don't call "strange" gods people His children, because He don't know their "strange" gods. Their "strange" gods are demons. It's why we are in war in between Good and Evil ... so much just like in biblical's ancient times. See, why would the Government allow the "ungodly" laws to pass for the evil to rise and to take the good away? Why?
 
CyberRed said:
Do you understand what I meant about "common sense" is gone ? I don't think so if you catch my drift ... If, you do, then, pls do tell.
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Yes, I do catch your drift. Common sense still exist very much so in this world.

I do use my common sense because I was raised to do so. But there are too many parents who doesn't and teach their kids the wrong ideas of life.

But the problem is a lot more complicated than you'll like to think. To think that the bible has an answer for everything is too simple-minded for me.

It goes much deeper than that.

Lack of religion has absolutely nothing to do with the corruption in our society today. Ever since the USA added "Under God" to the pledge in the 50s, a lot of things changed... slowly.

It has led the society to a more serious corruption and it is no joke. We have forced our beliefs onto the others and it cause problems for them.

The USA is not to be viewed as a God's country because it isn't. The government will not function well enough under the bible because not everybody has the same beliefs.

Having a sense of moral code is pretty much what people need, not religion. People only created the religions in order to teach people the difference between rights and wrongs.

If they didn't create religions, they'll have no sense of where these "moral code" came from therefore convincing them that they are free to do whatever they want.

The truth is, people are free to do whatever they want to, but we put fear in them in order to prevent trouble.
 
CyberRed said:
God don't call "strange" gods people His children, because He don't know their "strange" gods. Their "strange" gods are demons. It's why we are in war in between Good and Evil ... so much just like in biblical's ancient times. See, why would the Government allow the "ungodly" laws to pass for the evil to rise and to take the good away? Why?
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No, I don't want God to answer my question, I want you to!

I'll ask you the question again,

About these different religions with different Gods, do you believe they are entitled to the same rights as Christians in the USA?
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I prefer to know what your answer is, not what God think of them.
 
I am surprise there are many gay people that saying about Gay marriage is crock. :shock:

I am kinda glad to hear that. What a relief.

Ready for a surprise? Something you'd never guess from watching TV or reading your daily paper? Even "gay community" papers and magazines? Here goes:

Lots of gay people think gay marriage is a crock.

Lots of us, looking at our own lives and the lives of friends around us, see that the ways many of us live do not fit the "marriage" model. As I say in a memoir here online: gay men, lesbians, queers of all kinds, have been "pioneers of unconventional arrangements rich in support, commitment, and love." Why not hold that up as a model?

It's a model -- in fact many different models; a rich array of experiments in how we might live -- that gay marriage mavens blithely ignore. Or actively disparage: varied connections, promiscuous affections; lives open to exploration, discovery, random joys -- all that is so immature. It's time we grew up, got responsible, respectable, settled down, coupled up -- and marched down the aisle to get married.

In their avid commitment to "respectable" convention, advocates of gay marriage are even willing to see us frog-marched down the aisle -- in effect if not in fact. Same-sex spousal "victories" have imposed on any two people who have lived together for a year, whatever their sexual orientation, the state's definition of "common-law" marriage -- unless they can prove they are not a "conjugal couple."
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http://www.rbebout.com/getfree/intro.htm
 
sablescort said:
Lunz would absolutely love that.......But On Topic Debates are still just the same as Lunz's Lounge so why not just re-name On_Topic Debates to Lunz's Lounge :lol:
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Oh shit! That’s an even better idea!!! :rofl:
 
Banjo said:
No, I don't want God to answer my question, I want you to!

I'll ask you the question again,



I prefer to know what your answer is, not what God think of them.
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Oh, you want to know the answer from me ? *Chuckles* Ok, the answer is NO.
 
CyberRed said:
Oh, you want to know the answer from me ? *Chuckles* Ok, the answer is NO.
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The problems wouldn't be so bad if we weren't so selfish and learned how to share.

Religions will have to be put aside in order to make that happen.
 
Integrity. Morality. Common sense. How do we cultivate these? I believe
that discernment (taking info with a grain of salt) is so important these days, in my opinion. Ask yourself if you are really promoting hate or love through your religion. I bet your heart will know.

I know Lunz would tell y'all that God was an alien being or a series of alien beings that once enslaved the human race to mine gold for the survival of his own race on another planet or spaceship. That is one perspective that could also explain why gods and goddesses AND God had been introduced in a certain time period, and why gold is so precious to us today. Our alien heritage. There has been wonderful human "masters" like Jesus, Buddha, Mohommed and probably many others that came to spread the message of love only to have that message twisted by others who have created religions in their names to fulfill selfish purposes. How? Just look for messages that make you feel scared... are those messages promoting love as Jesus and others have promoted? It is hard to just cast off our childhood programming and social brainwashing, and I do sympathize with that especially in these trying times. Hey, the original story of Cinderella supposedly has fur slippers, not glass slippers!

However, I truly believe that some people use religion in a very good way to spread unconditional love - and I admire that very much. Unfortunately not all people are like that, although I hope they will be able to change in the future.

Another perspective is that we all are co-creators and ultimately responsible for our own destinies - just not in the way you might think. I think Arthur C. Clarke's Childhood's End would explain it very well. He's the same dude who gave us Hal and Space Odssey 2001 and other two sequels in 1950's. That resonates with me very much these days.
 
Liza said:
, I truly believe that some people use religion in a very good way to spread unconditional love - and I admire that very much. Unfortunately not all people are like that, although I hope they will be able to change in the future.
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I do agree with you on that one.
 
Banjo said:
The problems wouldn't be so bad if we weren't so selfish and learned how to share.

Religions will have to be put aside in order to make that happen.
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Care to explain your views ?
 
Banjo said:
The URL you provided, the problem with it is it doesn't provide us any facts. It's just an opinion, really.
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then megladon don't have any dang url about this gay marriage ban.

:locked: :?:
 
illustrator said:
then megladon don't have any dang url about this gay marriage ban.

:locked: :?:
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Bush has said he is willing to alter the constitution to say that only a man and a woman can be married. I guess from what they said its a long ways off from happening, but thats his possition. Personaly it doesnt bother me either way. But if they are willing to tell people what they can and cant do when it doesnt hurt anyone else... where will it stop?
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I have READ that Bush has declared these opinions on marriage bans. You can find them at CNN.
 
illustrator said:
:locked: :?:
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You want this thread locked just because you don't like what you're seeing?

Tough luck, we are free to voice our opinions even if it goes against your opinion.

Note to Moderators, locking the thread is unnecessary in my opinion. There are far too much that hasn't been discussed on this thread yet.
 
Banjo said:
You want this thread locked just because you don't like what you're seeing?

Tough luck, we are free to voice our opinions even if it goes against your opinion.

Note to Moderators, locking the thread is unnecessary in my opinion. There are far too much that hasn't been discussed on this thread yet.
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No. That's just when I realized that you said there is no provide of fact from url - then megalon have no url since this is "current events" not On topic.

Either it must be locked or move to right thread. :nana:
 
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