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CyberRed said:
You want to talk about ME ? Well, like I said earlier before this thread.. I don't agree for gay to marry. And of course, God says to love one another, but God is against Gay people's lifestyles in relationship. That's sin and wrong in the eyes of God.
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if these ppls want to have that sort of relationship...it's their choice...their freedom to do whatever they want to. As we all know that everyone don't share the same religions and it should not be mix with the Government it all had to do with their right as Freedom. I do not like the fact that the Government has to use religions to control the Laws. It's about we the People...Not about Briefs or Religions
 
I do not like the fact that the Government has to use religions to control the Laws. It's about we the People...Not about Briefs or Religions.
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Well, I do believe that we should put God first before the Government, not the Government first. We have to know what is right in the eyes of God, and then we will know WHAT the laws are right. By puttin' Government first before God, then, we will get too many errors...too much problems, because they don't know what is RIGHT. Sooner or later, we all will see the word "unity"... and of course, the word "unity" is already out there, but it will become more like a "Spider's web" to trap us all. I wouldn't be surprise if, that happens.
 
CyberRed said:
Well, I do believe that we should put God first before the Government, not the Government first. We have to know what is right in the eyes of God, and then we will know WHAT the laws are right. By puttin' Government first before God, then, we will get too many errors...too much problems, because they don't know what is RIGHT. Sooner or later, we all will see the word "unity"... and of course, the word "unity" is already out there, but it will become more like a "Spider's web" to trap us all. I wouldn't be surprise if, that happens.
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Huh?

Are you saying that everybody SHOULD be a Christian?

If not, then please be more clear next time.
 
Banjo said:
Huh?

Are you saying that everybody SHOULD be a Christian?

If not, then please be more clear next time.
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I didn't say that EVERYBODY SHOULD be a christian. You put those words in my mouth :nono: I am speakin' of the Government and God about the laws that might help less problems. Remma our pledge to the flag under ONE nation... under God", hmm? Are they followin' it up ever since ... or is that a no just because of what happened to 9/11 eh?
 
CyberRed said:
I didn't say that EVERYBODY SHOULD be a christian. You put those words in my mouth
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I did not put these words into your mouth, I asked a question.

There's a difference!

Yes, you did not say these words. But I get the impression that you think the Government should be associated with God.

If you think it'll solve the problems, you'll be surprised to see how wrong you would be on that one.

Remma our pledge to the flag under ONE nation... under God",
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It was added to the pledge back in the 50s because of the communists. Really, it's just a bunch of bullcrap.
 
Banjo said:
I did not put these words into your mouth, I asked a question.

There's a difference!

Yes, you did not say these words. But I get the impression that you think the Government should be associated with God.

If you think it'll solve the problems, you'll be surprised to see how wrong you would be on that one.



It was added to the pledge back in the 50s because of the communists. Really, it's just a bunch of bullcrap.
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Ok.. let me clear this up for you. What I mean is that I am just sayin' the Government SHOULD put God first for "We the People"... for US, not for the Government themselves. They shouldn't take the devil's place to give what the people wants ... like for instance: Gay marriage and so forth. That will create too many problems. Where's our sense of morality? Where did it go? And, what happened to it? What about the family value ? They have no remorse in this now days. People are becomin' more and more WAX ..
 
Well, it won't solve it because more people become atheist or involve in other religion that not mention "God".
 
Deaf258 said:
Can you say water and oil? ;)
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If u shake me while holding a glass of water and oil. hee hee
 
CyberRed said:
I don't agree for gay to marry. And of course, God says to love one another, but God is against Gay people's lifestyles in relationship. That's sin and wrong in the eyes of God.
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If God doesn’t condone homosexual relationships, then why does he/she/it permit homosexuality to exist? The general consensus seems to be that God is calling all the shots. After all—he/she/it created everything that exists in a mere seven days. You could give the entire Red Chinese Army an unlimited line of credit at Home Depot and they wouldn’t be able to pull that one off. So why can’t God solve such a seemingly simple problem as making sure that we all hook our plumbing up to proper specifications?
 
CyberRed said:
Ok.. let me clear this up for you. What I mean is that I am just sayin' the Government SHOULD put God first for "We the People"... for US, not for the Government themselves.
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I disagree, God should have NOTHING to do with the government. Religion cause problems, period!
 
Banjo said:
I disagree, God should have NOTHING to do with the government. Religion cause problems, period!
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The example of government and god: King David who lead the Holy City. It been done it for many years.
 
illustrator said:
The example of government and god: King David who lead the Holy City. It been done it for many years.
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Wrong.

Separation of Church and State, ever heard of it?

I contemplate with solemn reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church and State. (1)
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This was said by one of your past presidents, Thomas Jefferson in a letter back on January 1, 1802.

As far I am concerned, the government has violated their own law. They already made laws based on marriages which is pretty much linked to many religions.

Tsk tsk.
 
Levonian said:
If God doesn’t condone homosexual relationships, then why does he/she/it permit homosexuality to exist? The general consensus seems to be that God is calling all the shots. After all—he/she/it created everything that exists in a mere seven days. You could give the entire Red Chinese Army an unlimited line of credit at Home Depot and they wouldn’t be able to pull that one off. So why can’t God solve such a seemingly simple problem as making sure that we all hook our plumbing up to proper specifications?
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It's called disobey the god.

Being disobey to god to kill someone. Being disobey to steal someone.
 
illustrator said:
It's called disobey the god.

Being disobey to god to kill someone. Being disobey to steal someone.
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Follow your religion all you want to, but keep it out of the government. God is not the Government.
 
Banjo said:
Wrong.

Separation of Church and State, ever heard of it?



This was said by one of your past presidents, Thomas Jefferson in a letter back on January 1, 1802.

As far I am concerned, the government has violated their own law. They already made laws based on marriages which is pretty much linked to many religions.

Tsk tsk.
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Amen Banjo...I was about to give the Thomas Jefferson treatment on this thread. However I had some things on my mind before I could present my reply to this thread.

Mods...Please move this to On-Topic Debates if possible.
 
Banjo said:
Wrong.

Separation of Church and State, ever heard of it?



This was said by one of your past presidents, Thomas Jefferson in a letter back on January 1, 1802.

As far I am concerned, the government has violated their own law. They already made laws based on marriages which is pretty much linked to many religions.

Tsk tsk.
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Then why the law are seem similiar to Mose's 10 Commandments & Laws?

Thous shall not kill. Government called criminal for kill someone.
Thous shall not steal. Government called another criminal for steal, kiddnapper. etc.
 
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