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The IQ link is a hoax, a fake.Wow, that's WORST president ever.
Thanks for link.
I don't know what I've done to make you mad at me Cheri, or if it's just you're missing things that I said, or if I'm just not making my points clear enough, but I'll try and be more clear.
Like I said, I'm sure he had told his people to find out what they can and get the ball rolling while he calmly finished with the kids. Besides, there is nothing else that he could have done personally in those first 20 minutes to change anything. It's his aides that are responsible for getting the information to him, and for calling all the appropriate services to get things happening and find out more information. I'm sure he shortened his stay there, but his immediate running out of the room like a frightened school boy isn't going to help anything. So, in that first brief period of time immediately after the attack started, there is nothing more that was his responsibility to be doing, than having told his people to start finding out everything they could and get in action.
Bush was only in office for 8 months before it happened. If it was known 2 years in advance, then Clinton should have had it all covered. Bush was barely in office long enough to even get a bill through congress before the attacks. So, with that in mind, Clinton shouldnt have blown it off (unless it was his intention to make the next president look bad if he wanted to.... uhoh, another conspiracy theory). In anycase, if the governemt knew 2 years in advance, then I'd have to say that, based on who was in office in those 2 years, Clinton is 16 months responsible and Bush is 8 months (66%/33%). Would the American people have let the government get away with having airlines pose all the restrictions that they do now, before 9/11 happened? Do you really think Bush could have done in those 8 months for security what has taken 5 years since then and still isnt infallible?
Did Roosevelt ask us if we wanted to go into WWII? How come he didnt take care of Hitler and Japan before Dec. 7, 1941? How come Clinton didnt get Osama in the 8 years he was president and was practically handed Osama giftwrapped (as I said, 'on a silver platter') more than once. After 9/11, Bush did send forces after Osama, and Saddam, only Osama found a better hiding spot. The world is a better place without Saddam in power and he must pay for his crimes, which include harboring terrorism (and Osama) and killing his own people. We're still after Osama but man that bastard is slippery.
All conspiracy theories make sense. Ninety-five percent (making that number up) of them are total BS. Moore's 'theory' is just a paranoid lunatic's take on things and his movie is a collection of lies to spread his beliefs. Like I said, he's being sued by many people whose videos he used in his movie and warped those videos to fit what he wanted them to be, not caring about his defamation of the people in those videos. WTC-7 collapsed because of structural damage from a huge building next to it collapsing and much of that debris hitting it. it was taller and skinnier (so more likely to collapse from damage) than the other smaller WTC buildings that also ended up having to be torn down because of their damage. No mystery, big building falls into little building, little building will have problems. You can read the reports about it (I dont recommend the FEMA one cause it was incomplete, but the more complete one done later). For reference, you can see building layout of WTC at the link below. I'm surprised WTC-7 didnt collapse a few hours sooner than it did.
http://www.streetgangs.com/soyboricua/wtc/wtc_layout_graphic.gif
Clinton's lies allowed him to stay in office too, even though he was impeached. Bush hasnt run our country down, he brought it back from one of worst recessions ever, which Clinton put us in (thought I already talked about that too). I havent even mentioned Clinton with Monica, but I guess you could add that to all the crap about him that I've already talked about, and relates to family values. The iraq war was just as unnecessary as every other war in history. Nobody wants wars, wars suck. We should have just glassed that whole desert and there wouldn't have been any more problems with Osama or Saddam, or a crapload of terrorists, but that would also have been unfair to all the innocent people there...... the people we've been trying to help take back and rebuild their country after Saddam's reign and who are all happy about it, while progress is being hindered by terrorists and Saddams family and party members. Pit the blame where it's due, the terrorists causing problems over there, not Bush.
Anyways, I'll stop this if you stop. We both know neither of us will change each others beliefs, so why are we posting them back and forth to each other? I've already stated that I dont think Bush is that great of a president, but I don't think it's right for people to keep bashing him with no reason, or for false reasons. Especially when the same people that bash him, think the president before him was all innocent and great when he was more like the antichrist.
Can't we all just get along?
Like I said, I'm sure he had told his people to find out what they can and get the ball rolling while he calmly finished with the kids. Besides, there is nothing else that he could have done personally in those first 20 minutes to change anything. It's his aides that are responsible for getting the information to him, and for calling all the appropriate services to get things happening and find out more information. I'm sure he shortened his stay there, but his immediate running out of the room like a frightened school boy isn't going to help anything. So, in that first brief period of time immediately after the attack started, there is nothing more that was his responsibility to be doing, than having told his people to start finding out everything they could and get in action.
Bush was only in office for 8 months before it happened. If it was known 2 years in advance, then Clinton should have had it all covered. Bush was barely in office long enough to even get a bill through congress before the attacks. So, with that in mind, Clinton shouldnt have blown it off (unless it was his intention to make the next president look bad if he wanted to.... uhoh, another conspiracy theory). In anycase, if the governemt knew 2 years in advance, then I'd have to say that, based on who was in office in those 2 years, Clinton is 16 months responsible and Bush is 8 months (66%/33%). Would the American people have let the government get away with having airlines pose all the restrictions that they do now, before 9/11 happened? Do you really think Bush could have done in those 8 months for security what has taken 5 years since then and still isnt infallible?
Did Roosevelt ask us if we wanted to go into WWII? How come he didnt take care of Hitler and Japan before Dec. 7, 1941? How come Clinton didnt get Osama in the 8 years he was president and was practically handed Osama giftwrapped (as I said, 'on a silver platter') more than once. After 9/11, Bush did send forces after Osama, and Saddam, only Osama found a better hiding spot. The world is a better place without Saddam in power and he must pay for his crimes, which include harboring terrorism (and Osama) and killing his own people. We're still after Osama but man that bastard is slippery.
All conspiracy theories make sense. Ninety-five percent (making that number up) of them are total BS. Moore's 'theory' is just a paranoid lunatic's take on things and his movie is a collection of lies to spread his beliefs. Like I said, he's being sued by many people whose videos he used in his movie and warped those videos to fit what he wanted them to be, not caring about his defamation of the people in those videos. WTC-7 collapsed because of structural damage from a huge building next to it collapsing and much of that debris hitting it. it was taller and skinnier (so more likely to collapse from damage) than the other smaller WTC buildings that also ended up having to be torn down because of their damage. No mystery, big building falls into little building, little building will have problems. You can read the reports about it (I dont recommend the FEMA one cause it was incomplete, but the more complete one done later). For reference, you can see building layout of WTC at the link below. I'm surprised WTC-7 didnt collapse a few hours sooner than it did.
http://www.streetgangs.com/soyboricua/wtc/wtc_layout_graphic.gif
Well, Clinton's lies got him impeached, Bush lies allow him to stay in the office and run our country down-hill. I don't see why people made a big deal about Clinton's sex with Monica. What he does with his private life makes it his business not ours. But, when it comes to our country, unnecessary war and cost people's lives makes it our business and Bush cost us both. People need to stop being so obsessed with Clinton, and worried more on what counts the most.
Clinton's lies allowed him to stay in office too, even though he was impeached. Bush hasnt run our country down, he brought it back from one of worst recessions ever, which Clinton put us in (thought I already talked about that too). I havent even mentioned Clinton with Monica, but I guess you could add that to all the crap about him that I've already talked about, and relates to family values. The iraq war was just as unnecessary as every other war in history. Nobody wants wars, wars suck. We should have just glassed that whole desert and there wouldn't have been any more problems with Osama or Saddam, or a crapload of terrorists, but that would also have been unfair to all the innocent people there...... the people we've been trying to help take back and rebuild their country after Saddam's reign and who are all happy about it, while progress is being hindered by terrorists and Saddams family and party members. Pit the blame where it's due, the terrorists causing problems over there, not Bush.
Anyways, I'll stop this if you stop. We both know neither of us will change each others beliefs, so why are we posting them back and forth to each other? I've already stated that I dont think Bush is that great of a president, but I don't think it's right for people to keep bashing him with no reason, or for false reasons. Especially when the same people that bash him, think the president before him was all innocent and great when he was more like the antichrist.
Can't we all just get along?
People see what they want to see Reba, even though it says it's a hoax near the bottom of the page it's on in Sillycat's link.
J
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I'm not attacking you...I'm laughing at you & all of your posts. Your a little off-topic from what I said to you. If you hate politics? & you believe this, that, &/or whatever..That's your problem not mine. You must have blinders on to the world when it comes to the truth. I look at everyone & its all a blame game back & forth. "The Documentary Files of 9/11" Which you probably know nothing about explains everything from past events that lead up to 9/11. Boult's link has alot of similiarities to it. It doesn't tell everything no I understand that. But fill in the blanks yourself. & you just might figure that out one day. I went already & read the rest of the posts from Cheri seeing how she beat me saying alot of things to you (Thank You Cheri
) I'm not going to re type everything that she already said..YOu talk about a movie? Thats your education?..Oh please, I heard all about it but I didn't even watch it because I don't care to because I know it does NOT give all the REAL TRUE FACTS!!
I was just messing with ya when I was saying you live in a denial world. But the funny thing is, you say I'm bashing you for that? No you didn't even come close to being bashed by me. I just tell it like it is. If you don't like it, tough. So If I'm living in the denial world you say? I'm the one really living in the denial world huh?!...Then WHOOOOHOOOO!!!I enjoy it everyday of the week thank you
But one thing you said really caught my interest is..
"We had no business starting war in Iraq and should have gone after Al-queda? That's part of why we entered war in Iraq, because they were harboring Al-Queda and Osama, not too mention the already long over due removal of Saddam who was main reason for that and incompliance with UN accords regarding his chemical and biological weapons"
Now 1st of all, Al-Queda & Bin Laden & whoever you think is there in Iraq had nothing to do with all attacks that lead up to 9/11.
2nd They have chemical & Bioloical weapons? Where?
Weapons Of Mass Destruction? Where?
Oh thats right they have Oil we the USA hungarly need. Ok got it
Rather Saddam needed to be removed from office or not is by far NOT the issue when it comes to this so-called "War on Terror". Over $300 billion wasted on that senseless war in Iraq..For what? Iraqi Freedom? Because he killed all those people in the past? Whatever, that't our bussiness? No its not.
How in the world is America safer just because we removed Saddam from office? Oh if our troops are there, they are not..Because Saddam is not in office & our troops are still dying over there..For what? FOR NOTHING!!
Did we forget about Bin Laden? He hardly ever is mentioned in the news anymore. No attempts, that I re-call is being made to capture him..Why? Because we are wasting our time in Iraq period.
One last thing. The rumors of Bin Laden dead? I don't believe that because it has NOT been confirmed. No body, No DNA, No Nothing!! I'm sure if someone wanted the, I believe it was, what? $50 Million reward for Bin Laden "Dead or Alive" Preferably dead Rumsfield said. I'm sure whoever is around his dead body would have wanted that reward so bad they'd turn it in. No I believe Bin Laden wants America to think he's dead. So we can focus somewhere else (probably Iraq more) Waste billions of dollars on more war & then Bin Laden comes up with the Ultimate Plan to attack. How? Who knows. I don't want to see it happen again like 9/11. But as long as the US is in Iraq, their wasting serious valuable time when they can be hunting down Bin Laden & Al-Queda.
) I'm not going to re type everything that she already said..YOu talk about a movie? Thats your education?..Oh please, I heard all about it but I didn't even watch it because I don't care to because I know it does NOT give all the REAL TRUE FACTS!! I was just messing with ya when I was saying you live in a denial world. But the funny thing is, you say I'm bashing you for that? No you didn't even come close to being bashed by me. I just tell it like it is. If you don't like it, tough. So If I'm living in the denial world you say? I'm the one really living in the denial world huh?!...Then WHOOOOHOOOO!!!I enjoy it everyday of the week thank you
But one thing you said really caught my interest is..
"We had no business starting war in Iraq and should have gone after Al-queda? That's part of why we entered war in Iraq, because they were harboring Al-Queda and Osama, not too mention the already long over due removal of Saddam who was main reason for that and incompliance with UN accords regarding his chemical and biological weapons"
Now 1st of all, Al-Queda & Bin Laden & whoever you think is there in Iraq had nothing to do with all attacks that lead up to 9/11.
2nd They have chemical & Bioloical weapons? Where?
Weapons Of Mass Destruction? Where?
Oh thats right they have Oil we the USA hungarly need. Ok got it
Rather Saddam needed to be removed from office or not is by far NOT the issue when it comes to this so-called "War on Terror". Over $300 billion wasted on that senseless war in Iraq..For what? Iraqi Freedom? Because he killed all those people in the past? Whatever, that't our bussiness? No its not.
How in the world is America safer just because we removed Saddam from office? Oh if our troops are there, they are not..Because Saddam is not in office & our troops are still dying over there..For what? FOR NOTHING!!
Did we forget about Bin Laden? He hardly ever is mentioned in the news anymore. No attempts, that I re-call is being made to capture him..Why? Because we are wasting our time in Iraq period.
One last thing. The rumors of Bin Laden dead? I don't believe that because it has NOT been confirmed. No body, No DNA, No Nothing!! I'm sure if someone wanted the, I believe it was, what? $50 Million reward for Bin Laden "Dead or Alive" Preferably dead Rumsfield said. I'm sure whoever is around his dead body would have wanted that reward so bad they'd turn it in. No I believe Bin Laden wants America to think he's dead. So we can focus somewhere else (probably Iraq more) Waste billions of dollars on more war & then Bin Laden comes up with the Ultimate Plan to attack. How? Who knows. I don't want to see it happen again like 9/11. But as long as the US is in Iraq, their wasting serious valuable time when they can be hunting down Bin Laden & Al-Queda.
SimpleMan,
I'm not mad at you, We were just debating. You and I are just seeing things differently. If you wish for me to leave you alone, I will.
LoL, I suck in arguments and debates. Please stop!
J
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LoL Too Funny, gotta watch Cheri..She's full of fire ahaha
One last thing I want to say though. Clinton did warn bush of Bin Laden as he was taking over office. But Bush was just to concerned about that Tax cut that his daddy Bush wanted to do before Clinton took office. He got that bill through before 9/11 & we got a whooping $300 tax refund. Because Bush says "people are having trouble paying the rent, the gas, elec, etc.." SO I guess he thought a one time $300 tax cut was gonna help us with that forever huh? Blah whatever...
Ok I'm done with this subject & thread later
One last thing I want to say though. Clinton did warn bush of Bin Laden as he was taking over office. But Bush was just to concerned about that Tax cut that his daddy Bush wanted to do before Clinton took office. He got that bill through before 9/11 & we got a whooping $300 tax refund. Because Bush says "people are having trouble paying the rent, the gas, elec, etc.." SO I guess he thought a one time $300 tax cut was gonna help us with that forever huh? Blah whatever...
Ok I'm done with this subject & thread later
LoL, I suck in arguments and debates. Please stop!
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Bush is Bush full of scum-prez!
Need election better prez!
Need election better prez!
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Turning Earth East to North our world will be peace. Entire Asia will be North pole slow down devil Al-Queda, Osama, and another terrors. They did not learn snow lovely and peace lesson. Snow is not weapon and very cold that can freeze or slow them down.
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I put it there to see how people will react to it. Yes, I know its a hoax but its everyone's responsiblity to check it out to see if its a fact or b.s.Roadrunner
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i don't even like bush at the all... he don't think about the education and he think the war is the most important to him.. fuck him.. oh yeah we need a BETTER presdient.. but what about woman being president?
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Hmm... I bet that you are big fan of Bush.
Well, Bush is worst president ever that I had seen and no offense to members who are republican.
bad title... change it to "Bush: Waiting to be attacked" please.. that would reflect what I am posting about.
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I'm not a "big fan" of Bush, nor am I a Republican.
I don't support using hoaxes or false stories to bash anyone.
I don't support hating or cussing the President of the United States. Even when two of our worst modern presidents, Clinton and Carter, were in office, I never hated or cussed them.
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Just before 911 the CIA visted Bin Laden when he was in a hospital in the middle east....
Helloooo !!!! And BTW, it looks more and more that BL didn't plan all this.....
HOW would he be able to keep fighter-planes on the ground for 2 hours ??HOW would he be able to disable the defense system at the Pentagon ??
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Waiting to be attacked ???
"WAITING TO BE ATTACKED"- GEORGE BUSH CONFESSES
Somebody's 5 cents.... (.. actually $1,55 with current inflation)
"WAITING TO BE ATTACKED"- GEORGE BUSH CONFESSES
Somebody's 5 cents.... (.. actually $1,55 with current inflation)
Ur serious, Clinton and Carter were worst in office? I find it so funny, sorry had to laugh on this one.