Bush trying to ban same sex marriage...

How would you feel if the Biblical passages regarding marriage were applied to the Constitution? Now u know why the Founding Fathers chose to keep Church and State SEPARATE!

The Founding Fathers would be rolling in their graves if they saw that the Constitution was being tinkered with!

Amendment XXVIII: No state may sanction marriage between people of the same gender.

Amendment XXIX: No state may sanction marriage between a man and a woman who was married previously but has since divorced (Matthew 5:32).

Amendment XXX: No state may sanction marriage involving a widow (unless it is to her brother-in-law - see amendment 34). All women whose husbands have passed away are to refrain from intimacy and pleasure for the remainder of their lives ( 1 Timothy 5:5-15).

Amendment XXXI: No state may sanction marriage between people of different races (Deuteronomy 7:3; Numbers 25:6-8; 36:3-9; 1 Kings 11:2; Ezra 9:2; Nehemiah 12:25-27).

Amendment XXXII: No state may sanction marriage between a Christian and a non-Christian (2 John 1;9-11; 2 Corinthians 6:14-17).

Amendment XXXIII: No state may sanction marriage involving a man who has had sexual thoughts about a woman other than the one he intends to marry (Matthew 5:28).

Amendment XXXIV: No state may sanction marriage between a man whose brother has passed away and any woman other than his brother's widow. Each state must require the brother of a deceased man to marry his brother's widow (Deuteronomy 25:5-10).

Amendment XXXIX: No state may sanction marriage between a rapist and any woman other than his victim. States must require a rapist to marry his victim (Deuteronomy 22:28-29) unless the victim failed to cry out, in which case the rapist is relieved of this obligation (Deuteronomy 22:23-24).

Amendment XXXX: No state may sanction marriage between a man and an aggressive or contentious woman (Proverbs 21;9, 21:19, 25:24; 27:15).

http://www.whitehouse.org/dof/marriage.asp

Think twice before throwing the Bible into the Constitution!
 
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Steel didnt invent the clones.. the sciencists does. Which it does remind me.. I had a terrible dream about clones last night. :ugh:
 
sablescort said:
How would you feel if the Biblical passages regarding marriage were applied to the Constitution?

Amendment XXVIII: No state may sanction marriage between people of the same gender.

Amendment XXIX: No state may sanction marriage between a man and a woman who was married previously but has since divorced (Matthew 5:32).

Amendment XXX: No state may sanction marriage involving a widow (unless it is to her brother-in-law - see amendment 34). All women whose husbands have passed away are to refrain from intimacy and pleasure for the remainder of their lives ( 1 Timothy 5:5-15).

Amendment XXXI: No state may sanction marriage between people of different races (Deuteronomy 7:3; Numbers 25:6-8; 36:3-9; 1 Kings 11:2; Ezra 9:2; Nehemiah 12:25-27).

Amendment XXXII: No state may sanction marriage between a Christian and a non-Christian (2 John 1;9-11; 2 Corinthians 6:14-17).

Amendment XXXIII: No state may sanction marriage involving a man who has had sexual thoughts about a woman other than the one he intends to marry (Matthew 5:28).

Amendment XXXIV: No state may sanction marriage between a man whose brother has passed away and any woman other than his brother's widow. Each state must require the brother of a deceased man to marry his brother's widow (Deuteronomy 25:5-10).

Amendment XXXIX: No state may sanction marriage between a rapist and any woman other than his victim. States must require a rapist to marry his victim (Deuteronomy 22:28-29) unless the victim failed to cry out, in which case the rapist is relieved of this obligation (Deuteronomy 22:23-24).

Amendment XXXX: No state may sanction marriage between a man and an aggressive or contentious woman (Proverbs 21;9, 21:19, 25:24; 27:15).

http://www.whitehouse.org/dof/marriage.asp

Think twice before throwing the Bible into the Constitution!
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Yeah.. if they try to mess religion and government together.. it would be a big complication for everyone and it ain't gonna be pretty. Like I said goverment and religion MUST be seprated period!!!!!!!!!! Not everyone have the same religion!!!!
 
Then while we're at it....Let's amend the Constitution to ban Adultery too!

Hypocrites.... :roll:
 
Yeah sablecourt..adultry happens everyday and nothing we can't do. If they ban adultry.. if they r caught..go to jail for a long time?? :roll: I don't like adultry myself but I don't think we should ban it though. The hard lesson they would learn is the hard way by either losing everything and the partner leaves .. etc.

Oh by the way.. if they ban sex before marriage by now.. alot of us would be in jail for a while. :roll:
 
Thoughts from the other side of the Atlantic...

Bush's speech has just been on the BBC News over here in England. I hope I'm not the only one that was actually shocked by the sheer stupidity of what he had to say. I don't want to be disrespectful to the office of President of the US, but on several years of evidence, Bush is not worthy of that respect in my (European) view.

There was also footage in the report of same-sex marriages in Boston and SF and they looked to be beautiful occasions. I'm not gay myself, and I am quite religious, but there's a basic humanity/tolerance issue here which Bush prefers to ignore, or smother in homespun, back-to-basics claptrap. But the news report also said that if he got his wretched change to the constitution it would still take five years to get through - is that true? (forgive my ignorance of American political machinery...)
 
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Then while we're at it....Let's amend the Constitution to ban Adultery too!

Hypocrites.... :roll:
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and let's ban DIVORCE too!
 
hohprof said:
Thoughts from the other side of the Atlantic...

Bush's speech has just been on the BBC News over here in England. I hope I'm not the only one that was actually shocked by the sheer stupidity of what he had to say. I don't want to be disrespectful to the office of President of the US, but on several years of evidence, Bush is not worthy of that respect in my (European) view.

There was also footage in the report of same-sex marriages in Boston and SF and they looked to be beautiful occasions. I'm not gay myself, and I am quite religious, but there's a basic humanity/tolerance issue here which Bush prefers to ignore, or smother in homespun, back-to-basics claptrap. But the news report also said that if he got his wretched change to the constitution it would still take five years to get through - is that true? (forgive my ignorance of American political machinery...)
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:werd:

However about GLBT in Boston....It is not yet set in concrete but the Massachusetts Supreme Court has ordered Massachusetts to make plans to open-up GLBT marriages by May 2K4. What is happening right now is the Massachusetts legislature is trying to amend the Massachusetts Constitution to ban GLBT marriages. Good thing the attempt to ban it has failed twice in Mass.


I agree with your assessement that the amendment to the Constitutioon would take long enough because of the mechanism in the original 1787 Constitution required that 2/3 of the House, 2/3 of the Senate PLUS 2/3rds of the State legislatures is required to pass any amendments to the Constitution. so hohprof you're gaining a bit knowledge of our American political process. (I'm also intrigued by the British Parliamentary system too)
 
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However about GLBT in Boston....It is not yet set in concrete but the Massachusetts Supreme Court has ordered Massachusetts to make plans to open-up GLBT marriages by May 2K4. What is happening right now is the Massachusetts legislature is trying to amend the Massachusetts Constitution to ban GLBT marriages. Good thing the attempt to ban it has failed twice in Mass.


I agree with your assessement that the amendment to the Constitutioon would take long enough because of the mechanism in the original 1787 Constitution required that 2/3 of the House, 2/3 of the Senate PLUS 2/3rds of the State legislatures is required to pass any amendments to the Constitution. so hohprof you're gaining a bit knowledge of our American political process. (I'm also intrigued by the British Parliamentary system too)
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Thanks for such an interesting reply! The number-crunching in House + Senate + state legislatures is going to be quite a mountain to climb. From this distant perspective, I've got to say I hope Bush can't make it up there...

Ask me anything you like about the British parliament - I'll do my best, though at the moment Dubya's best friend on the international scene (T. Blair) is getting a lot of flak for more or less subverting a lot of its customs and practices (like reducing by half the amount of time he can be exposed to direct questioning by the opposition and by his own party).
 
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I wonder how does Jeff Thomas feel about it.
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I wonder how do George and Martha Washington feel about it when they get out from their graves to see this country with change new law ?

Ben Franklin ??
 
Banjo said:
and let's ban DIVORCE too!
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Would wives stay with their husbands who their verbal/ physical abusive to their wives ? Would it be healthy for the children? Should we let either wives or husands affair to stay in the marriage ? I do not think, it will be a good healthy for either of spouse ?? :eek2:

Think twice before throwing the Bible into the Constitution!
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I love that quote !!

Then while we're at it....Let's amend the Constitution to ban Adultery too!

Hypocrites....
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I would love to see more marriage spouse less adultery !! There is too many porno everywhere in T.V., magainze, etc... commerical infludence society change. I have seen T.V. becomes more show sexual at 8 p.m. Jeeze ! Not like my time in 1970's !! :sadwave:
 
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No religeous institution is obligated to perform these marriages. Everybody is for equal rights until it means facing their own prejudices.

What will you do when your own child comes home one day and tells you they are gay or lesbian? Will you tell them that President Bush says they are not equal? :|

People who are preaching about God and what The Bible says need to do a little more reading. No, God did not make Adam and John or Eve and Mary, but the Bible also goes through an awful lot of subjects that are wrong, or sins.

If you want to preach about the Bible, do a little more reading and research, I have...
 
Steel said:
...and what's wrong with sex?? lol
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As far as our childeren through TV showings of gay families, I find that to be rather far. I believe that putting shows on the air where gays are living along side of heterosexuals will only give our childeren better understanding and more acceptance towards the gay community.

However, it brought up the fact that there is already too much sexual, violence and smut on television today, which is true, but as a parent, one can either block those programs that they do not want their childeren to see, or they can simply not allow them to be watched in the house. I do not feel that bringing homosexuality into television programming will hurt our children. There are already shows on dealing with homosexuals.

The one thing that people have to understand is that the gay community is growing stronger and stronger, there is no way to segregate yourselves from what is giong to happen around you. What would have happened if there was an amendment banning interracial marriage. Would you stand for that then?

One time, my son was about 10 years old. He saw the T.V. two ladies kiss each other with rubbing the breasts. Mommy, two women kissed each other. Yucky !! Mommy, Will you kiss a lady and rub her breasts ? :| I said, No... I am not lesbian. They love each other. As for your Mommy prefers to have a man. My son was perplexed why the gay community influence so much in the T.V. show.

Ellen was the first person kissing to a woman. Many parents were complained with ABC or NBC program. I think, it was occurred few years ago.
 
aw Yeah Ellen...kind of odd that I have a crush on her though...I dunno *straches his head*

yeah, it would give alot of confusion into kids when they see same sex relationships, and parents don't give them any explantion on that, well, then they are screwed.

I never really knew that would exist until my mom told me about that when I was around 12 or something like that...didn't know until then and I went "ewww! disgusting!" but then realized that everyone's different being deaf either.
 
Sabrina said:
However, it brought up the fact that there is already too much sexual, violence and smut on television today, which is true, but as a parent, one can either block those programs that they do not want their childeren to see, or they can simply not allow them to be watched in the house. I do not feel that bringing homosexuality into television programming will hurt our children. There are already shows on dealing with homosexuals.
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Finally, a parent who know how to control the TV! I'm glad to see that you are able to control what your children watch on the TV.
 
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