Boy, 12, Sticks Gum on $1.5M Painting

That was disgusting and stupid of what the kid did though it seems he didnt respect the painting made by Helen Frankenthaler, one of the most famous artists back in the 1960s and sure did tons of incredible work including "the bay" and that kid had to stick gum on a painting that cost $1.5 million dollars?!

dont get me wrong, I can understand that he's only 12 and doesnt seem to know much about art, but he's not a 5 yrs old so if he's 12, then he should be wise enough to understand the rules better than a 5 yr old kid would. :roll:

how would you feel if someone stick up some gum or booger up onto your painting that cost perhas over $ 3 million or so and then got it ruined cause of the gum or booger or whatever that stained on ur painting and nobody wants to buy it?

of course I would be pissed since I'm an artist too and I've made alot of drawings and paintings back in middle school and high school and even in college and still have them in the future and has shown and bought some work and would even get paid for this as well.

it is very uncilivized and disrespectful of what he done and of course, I hope he learned his lesson not to mess up anyone's hard work on like on Helen's painting.
 
Steel said:
how would you feel if someone stick up some gum or booger up onto your painting that cost perhas over $ 3 million


IF I had a 3 million dollars worth of painting, then I would make sure I have some sort of protection for it, otherwise I would be nuts to let it hang there and don't expect it to be damage....
 
Rose Immortal said:
Frankly, I think museum was RIGHT to expect that children should be supervised by either parents, teachers or guides at the museum.
Yes but the museum should have a protection or fencing around that painting if they expect children go into the museum. Also it is not easy to keep an eye on each child in a group of children.

It is still the museum's fault if they didn't have any protection around the painting. Not only children can be mischievous or be an accident prone but some adults can be too.
 
Steel: :gpost:

Artists and art owners prefer to display artworks in private and public galleries without undo "barriers" to the artistic viewing experience. Many artistis, and those who appreciate visual art, feel that too much "protection" distracts from the full appreciation of their works.

Parents should train kids to respect the property of other people, and teachers should "brief" kids on proper gallery behavior before starting the tour.

Sometimes no amount of insurance can compensate for damage done to art works. Insurance money can be used to make repairs but if a piece is damaged beyond repair, all the money in the world won't be enough to replace it.

It would be a shame if all art work has to be totally enclosed in plastic to separate it from the viewing public. :(
 
Boy, 12, gums up pricey DIA artwork
BY MARK STRYKER
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER

February 28, 2006

Helen Frankenthaler's 7-foot by 7-foot acrylic on canvas titled "The Bay," worth $1.5 million, is expected to be fully repaired. (Detroit Institute of Arts)

DIA visitor rules
• Food, drink, candy -- and gum -- are not allowed in the museum galleries.
• Smoking is not permitted anywhere in the building.
• Visitors must remain at least 18 inches away from artworks.
• With student groups, the museum requires one adult chaperone for every 10 students. At least two chaperones are required. Chaperones must actively supervise students at all times.
• All purses, backpacks, bags and briefcases must be inspected by a security officer.
• Coats, umbrellas and large bags must be checked at the coatroom.
• Touching the art is forbidden. This includes frames, pedestals, cases, platforms and walls.
• Running is prohibited.
• Photography and sketching are allowed by permit only.

Helen Frankenthaler and her paintings
Helen Frankenthaler (b. 1928) is one of the most influential of the second-generation of American abstract expressionist painters (and one of just a handful of women in the group.) She is best known for her lyrical abstractions with undeniable landscape allusions and for originating the technique of so-called stain painting.

In the early 1950s, Frankenthaler, began pouring paint directly on an unprimed canvas, resulting in overlapping pools of saturated color. When the painters Kenneth Noland and Morris Louis picked up on Frankenthaler's staining technique, it codified the color-field style that dominated American abstract art in the 1960s.

Completed in 1963, "The Bay" is a landmark Frankenthaler because it was her first stained picture done with acrylic paint, a new medium at the time. In "The Bay" -- a large picture dominated by sea of blue against horizontal fields of green, gray and cream -- you can feel the artist's growing confidence and control.

The Detroit Institute of Arts bought the picture in 1965. Becky Hart, assistant curator of contemporary art at the DIA, said that "The Bay" was Frankenthaler's most important painting after "Mountains and Sea," her first stained canvas from 1952. The picture is reproduced in every major Frankenthaler catalog.

A representative at Knoedler & Company in New York, Frankenthaler's longtime dealer, said that two years ago the National Gallery of Art in Washington bought a major Frankenthaler, "Nature Abhors a Vacuum" (1973), for more than $1.5 million. Given the historical value of "The Bay," it likely would sell for at least as much.

You might think that a museum wouldn't have to tell visitors not to stick chewing gum on the art. But you would be wrong -- as the Detroit Institute of Arts just found out.

At the DIA on Friday, a mischievous 12-year-old boy visiting the museum with a school group took a piece of barely chewed Wrigley's Extra Polar Ice out of his mouth and stuck it on Helen Frankenthaler's 1963 abstract painting "The Bay," damaging one of the most important modern paintings in the museum's collection and a landmark picture in the artist's output.

Though the picture, acquired by the DIA in 1965 and worth an estimated $1.5 million, is expected to make a full recovery, the episode reinforces just how vulnerable priceless works of art remain when displayed publicly -- and what can happen when common sense takes a backseat to impulsive delinquency.

Officials at the DIA and the school in Holly where the scofflaw is a student have not released his name. However, art lovers -- and parents everywhere grateful that it wasn't their son who did the deed -- can rest assured that the perpetrator has been punished. Julie Kildee, director of the Holly Academy, a K-8 charter school, said the boy had been suspended and that his parents also have taken disciplinary action. Kildee declined to reveal the length of the suspension.

"Even though we give very strict guidelines on proper behavior and we hold students to high standards, he is only 12 and I don't think he understood the ramifications of what he did before it happened, but he certainly understands the severity of it now," said Kildee.

The incident happened just after 10 a.m. An alert security guard noticed the gum on the painting immediately after the students had exited the gallery. He called a curator and conservator, who came and removed the contraband -- DIA protocol demands that only a museum conservator touch a work of art. Meanwhile, the guard herded the students into the lobby and asked for an explanation. The guilty student confessed almost instantly.

Luckily, the gum, stuck to the painting's lower left-hand corner (from the viewer's perspective), had not adhered to the fiber of the canvas. But it did leave a chemical residue about the size of a quarter, said Becky Hart, assistant curator of contemporary art. She said the conservation department was researching the exact chemicals in the gum to determine which solvent should be used to clean the painting.

Once a solvent is chosen, Hart said the picture would be placed on a vacuum table that would pull the solvent through the canvas, removing the stain. She said the museum hoped to have the painting repaired in two weeks. The picture will remain on view in the meantime.

"Our expectation is that the painting is going to be fine," said Hart.

Though museum officials were upset, they didn't yell at the student or discipline him. At first, Hart tried to explain to him the museum's role in preserving cultural and visual history. "I knew that probably wouldn't make any sense to him, so I asked him what kind of music he liked," said Hart.

"He said he liked rap, so I said, 'Well, you know what rock 'n' roll is,' and he did, so I said, 'Can you imagine if somebody had messed up the beat in rock and roll so you didn't have any rhythm in rap.' And he looked at me, and he got it immediately."

Hart said no more than one or two artworks per year experience minor damage at the museum. She noted that that DIA guards and officials did everything correctly. The picture was hung at a proper height and students were told repeatedly before their visit that food, drink and gum are not allowed in the galleries.

Of course, sometimes boys will be boys.

"I'm always thankful that it was not worse," Hart said. "In the scheme of things, this is upsetting, and it will make us review our policies. But we're confident that the painting will be OK."

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060228/ENT05/602280320
 
But But But

Look at now days..

alot places are looking for $$$$$
sue for little thing..

I wouldnt trust any places.. if kids bump something or ruin something..
they will slap your face with lawsuits.. rme..

like i said.. now days are full of bull crap!
 
He shouldn't have had gum in the first place. Having candy, snacks, food, or drinks in a museum is like looking for trouble... a bull walking in a china shop. ;)
 
Then why haven't the teacher seen that one of her student had gum in his mouth?.....Why always blame the parents but not the teacher?
 
^Angel^ said:
Then why haven't the teacher seen that one of her student had gum in his mouth?.....Why always blame the parents but not the teacher?
Teachers are responsible for watching the students during the trip but parents are also responsible for training their children to respect other people's property at all times.
 
Reba said:
Teachers are responsible for watching the students during the trip but parents are also responsible for training their children to respect other people's property at all times.

True but let's be honest here, I don't believe one child would actually do the right thing all the time, every child do some wrong and even intend to break rules so for adults....


I'm tired of people saying that it's the parents responsible even we did our part and sometimes they don't listen or do what they're told to do, and we're looking bad cause one of our children intend to break a rule.....
 
Reba said:
Teachers are responsible for watching the students during the trip but parents are also responsible for training their children to respect other people's property at all times.
Haven't it occurred to you that not all kids are angels? Even though teachers and parents do their best with teaching and training kids but it is really difficult to teach and train a "problem child".
 
ButterflyGirl said:
Yes but the museum should have a protection or fencing around that painting if they expect children go into the museum. Also it is not easy to keep an eye on each child in a group of children.

It is still the museum's fault if they didn't have any protection around the painting. Not only children can be mischievous or be an accident prone but some adults can be too.

Which is why parents and schools should be expected to bring the proper number of chaperones to make sure that all children ARE accounted for.

But by the age of 12, you are old enough to be responsible. Once, when I was in school, our group was taken to a Native American reservation where the tribe had an open-air market. Sadly, many students stole things, and our school was asked never to come back. Let me tell you what--at that age, I was morally sensitive enough to (a) pay for what I bought and (b) to be incensed at the idiocy of my colleagues. They should have known better and hopefully were punished if any of them were caught. I knew better at that age and did not need the presence of a chaperone to make me do those things--that is, big ones like "do not steal" and "do not deface people's property". Those were blindingly obvious!!!

The trouble with putting up too much protection is that it gets in the way of the (RESPONSIBLE) person's ability to experience a work of art as they wish--which in some cases may mean approaching fairly close to see details. So the art museum has a tough balance to strike: protection versus quality of experience.
 
ButterflyGirl said:
Haven't it occurred to you that not all kids are angels? Even though teachers and parents do their best with teaching and training kids but it is really difficult to teach and train a "problem child".


Exactly unless they think they have a perfect child who doesn't do anything wrong....


12 years older and UP usually get in trouble by doing things even we taught our children everything they need to know and to stay out of trouble, I don't believe one second that no 12 years old kid will always do the right thing all the time, even we know how kids get when they gets a bit older, they get in the wrong crowd of friends or whatever, and people out there just look at the parents thinking they must not have taught their children anything, I'm sick of hearing it really....No one knows what we do as a parents, we do everything in our power to keep our kids out of trouble, sometimes it doesn't always go the way we expect but when we punished them for whatever act they have done, then maybe they will learn something out of it later, there's always a lesson to learn by the mistakes we make, I'm sure this 12 years old boy would not think of doing this again afterall he knows what he did was wrong...
 
^Angel^ said:
Exactly unless they think they have a perfect child who doesn't do anything wrong....


12 years older and UP usually get in trouble by doing things even we taught our children everything they need to know and to stay out of trouble, I don't believe one second that no 12 years old kid will always do the right thing all the time, even we know how kids get when they gets a bit older, they get in the wrong crowd of friends or whatever, and people out there just look at the parents thinking they must not have taught their children anything, I'm sick of hearing it really....No one knows what we do as a parents, we do everything in our power to keep our kids out of trouble, sometimes it doesn't always go the way we expect but when we punished them for whatever act they have done, then maybe they will learn something out of it later, there's always a lesson to learn by the mistakes we make, I'm sure this 12 years old boy would not think of doing this again afterall he knows what he did was wrong...

Absolutely right - you hit it on the nail perfect.
 
Rose Immortal said:
Frankly, I think museum was RIGHT to expect that children should be supervised by either parents, teachers or guides at the museum.

Yes, I second that.
 
^Angel^ said:
IF I had a 3 million dollars worth of painting, then I would make sure I have some sort of protection for it, otherwise I would be nuts to let it hang there and don't expect it to be damage....


I think it's no fun to have value art painting worth over millions to protect in my house... I would rather to sell it to save my stress and hassle to worry about picture...:D
 
Reba said:
Steel: :gpost:

Artists and art owners prefer to display artworks in private and public galleries without undo "barriers" to the artistic viewing experience. Many artistis, and those who appreciate visual art, feel that too much "protection" distracts from the full appreciation of their works.

Parents should train kids to respect the property of other people, and teachers should "brief" kids on proper gallery behavior before starting the tour.

Sometimes no amount of insurance can compensate for damage done to art works. Insurance money can be used to make repairs but if a piece is damaged beyond repair, all the money in the world won't be enough to replace it.

It would be a shame if all art work has to be totally enclosed in plastic to separate it from the viewing public. :(

:gpost:, you also Steel, too.

Reba, thank you for update the link...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reba
Teachers are responsible for watching the students during the trip but parents are also responsible for training their children to respect other people's property at all times.

Yes, true...


^Angel^ said:
True but let's be honest here, I don't believe one child would actually do the right thing all the time, every child do some wrong and even intend to break rules so for adults....


I'm tired of people saying that it's the parents responsible even we did our part and sometimes they don't listen or do what they're told to do, and we're looking bad cause one of our children intend to break a rule.....

Yes, I know what you mean... We parents know that our kids are not :angel: like what I said in my previous posts... We parents have to accept the fact that it's our responsible what action our children did because they are still our responsible children... I know it's not easy for us (parents) feeling being bad and ask question to ourselves many times what have we done wrong to expose our kids like this. Why? Why? Don't you know that Killers and crimes have parents...? They would feel the same after learn that their children are serial/mass murders... I can image it's terrible for them... What could we do? Nothing but accept our responsible. I know it's sucker... :( It doesn't mean that we are bad parents... but... :(
 
ButterflyGirl said:
Haven't it occurred to you that not all kids are angels? Even though teachers and parents do their best with teaching and training kids but it is really difficult to teach and train a "problem child".


Yes correct, train/teach a problem child is one toughest job for parents and teacher. I myself has a ADD son. I got the help from physican and therapies to improve my eldest son's behavior... and got their tips how to deal ADD children BECAUSE I want good development for my son when my son was little boy. It took over 2 years to improve his behavior with the help from therapies... I can image he would go bad if he didnt get the help enough?

I would say that both problem child and normal child needs parental's support to develop them into right way, no matter what...

I think parents should go to parent class how to help their children's development... I would, if my children have problematic behavior because I want the help.
 
^Angel^ said:
Exactly unless they think they have a perfect child who doesn't do anything wrong....


12 years older and UP usually get in trouble by doing things even we taught our children everything they need to know and to stay out of trouble, I don't believe one second that no 12 years old kid will always do the right thing all the time, even we know how kids get when they gets a bit older, they get in the wrong crowd of friends or whatever, and people out there just look at the parents thinking they must not have taught their children anything, I'm sick of hearing it really....No one knows what we do as a parents, we do everything in our power to keep our kids out of trouble, sometimes it doesn't always go the way we expect but when we punished them for whatever act they have done, then maybe they will learn something out of it later, there's always a lesson to learn by the mistakes we make, I'm sure this 12 years old boy would not think of doing this again afterall he knows what he did was wrong...

Yes I aware it.

Like what I said before that it's not easy job for the parents as responsible parents how to deal with their children's development... What/How they exposed in wrong way like this... join wrong crowd... etc...

Yes everyone including children and adult learn their lesson after what they done wrong but I see different what a boy did...
 
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